WTF is a MGTOW? A Glossary

On this blog, MRA does not stand for Magnetic Resonance Angiography

NOTE: This page is in desperate need of revision and expansion. In the meantime, I suggest you use Rationalwiki’s Manosphere Glossary.

For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.

First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:

MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.

Ok, so what do those terms mean?

MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether.  I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.

Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:

Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).

Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.

Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.

The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.

NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.

PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”

Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.

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weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

The only live album I ever really got into was Nirvana Unplugged.

NothingClever
NothingClever
9 years ago

Oh, I got my first gif. I’m a longtime lurker here.

Luzbelitx
9 years ago

I think I just realized I hate live albums too!!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lystdgjbpM1qh59n0o1_500.png

Actually, there might be an exception or two…

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

Having any album with “Unplugged” in the title is also an oxymoron I am not a fan of.

Luzbelitx
9 years ago

Watch out, Pandapool, maybe oxymorons will get tired of your despise and will leave society and THEN YOU’LL SEE

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

I…I-I don’t hate all oxymorons. There’s some I quite like! Some of them are quite fun and humorous, like, “You idiot! That’s genius!” or “MGTOW helping evolve humans”.

See? Hilarious!

Its just that live albums are just a cheap ploy so the record companies don’t have to worry about recording equipment and shit, and nothing recorded is ever live, so, pffd.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

OGTOW 4 life!!!

Luzbelitx
9 years ago

“You idiot! That’s genius!”

This reminded me of:

– We need to organize to fight the nerds!
– What a great idea! you are one of them!

Ima Pseudonym
Ima Pseudonym
9 years ago

we mgtow are here to evolve humanity

Well, that’s the single funniest thing I’ve read all week.

Mark
Mark
9 years ago

Listen to u disgusting women ..it nothing but analistic monkeys..women are a disgrace on culture! Women are a disgrace to men ..women suck fucking cock cause they are nothing but sexual parasites ..women are lower than men..women suck so many cocks there filled with semen to the brim..women are a disgrace and should be treated as such the fuck monkeys they are ..remember women are lesser beings fuck you ! Disgusting fetish filled women cheating sucking and swallowing so much sperm there a fuckin crutch on humanity with ther materialism and sex ., women are a joke and should be treated as such..fuck all feminists fucks all u are U.S. A big cunt ready to get fucked fuckin gross ..shame shame u disgraceful women

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

You know, The Cure live at Bestival? That wasn’t a bad live album. Robert Smith sounds exactly like the same recording in the studio and on that stage. You can tell he doesn’t auto tune or whatever his voice at all.

Still annoys the fuck out of me though, just because the sound isn’t as balanced as it would be in studio. It sounds good but the music is low compared to the lyrics. :/

sparky
sparky
9 years ago

“Analistic Monkeys” is the name of my punk band.

I actually kind of like live albums. Johnny Cash Live at Folsom Prison was awesome. YMMV, of course.

I also e-mailed David. Mark’s getting a little too oogy there.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

“Analistic Monkeys”? Sounds fun. 😛 What kind of punk is it?

Spindrift
Spindrift
9 years ago

You’re a sad little man, Mark. How about going your own way already?

sparky
sparky
9 years ago

Pandapool: Hardcore!

(Yeah, I’m an old fogey who just totally didn’t google “types of punk music” 🙂 )

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@sparky

Wait, was that punk band mentioned a joke about what Mark said? Because my eyes started glazing over about two lines in.

(Damnit.)

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Well, not to deploy a way overused meme but;comment image

First post has Mark boasting about how evolved and intellectual MGTOW is. Second post is a string of misogynist profanity.

You should post drunk, Mark. You pretended – unsuccessfully, but at least you tried – that there was some sore of high philosophy behind your MGTOW identity. But in vino, veritas Mark. In vino, veritas.

Oh, and by the way. Ellipses have three dots. Not two. Not four. Three. I counted nine two dot ellipses in one paragraph. That has to be a record. What’s even funnier, there should have been ten two dot ellipsis, but one became this .,

I don’t even know what ., is called. Mark is going his way so hard he made up his own punctuation.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Speaking of the perils of posting drunk, I typed sore when I meant to say sort. However, it seems fitting. No regrets!

Have a White Walker
http://photos.vanityfair.com/2015/06/01/556bc21c378caf0d670e4d8c_come-at-me-crow-nights-king.gif

ej
ej
9 years ago

So I know Mark’s comment is going to get deleted, but I wanted to share this video any way.

It does discuss gendered insults, so it is definitely NSFW, but it is one of my favorite videos. She is breaks down Mark’s “insults” better than I ever could.

In response to Mark telling us how awful women are because they have sex:

Basically, when you call someone a slut, all you’re really saying is ‘I don’t like the way you have sex’, which is interesting because, most likely, if you’re using that word against me, you actually don’t know anything about the reality of my sex life. So what you’re really saying is ‘I don’t like the way I *assume* that you have sex.

Oh, yeah. Good insult.

Ima Pseudonym
Ima Pseudonym
9 years ago

U2 are, to me, frequently better on live albums than studio ones. For instance, I like every track on Live at Red Rocks better than its studio album equivalent.

Most other bands, though? Yeah, studio recording for me, please.

Spindrift
Spindrift
9 years ago

@ ej

Watched the video you posted, and then the recommended videos popped up and they’re thunderfoot and the amazing atheist…

Why you do that, youtube? You’re a terrible friend!

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
9 years ago

@ma Pseudonym

I’ve heard Muse is pretty good live, but they aren’t really my scene.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Not to go all hipster, but I liked Muse way before they were cool (about 15years ago). Then, when they got cool, I was kind of done. Immature. I know.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
9 years ago

Watched the video you posted, and then the recommended videos popped up and they’re thunderfoot and the amazing atheist…

Why you do that, youtube? You’re a terrible friend!

Oh god, this. This all over. Based on my viewing of Rebecca Watson and Anita Sarkeesian videos, Youtube is convinced that I would adore Sargon of Akkad and Thunderf00t and such people. It’s awful. The “recommended for you” section fills up with hate.

You can fix it, though. If you go to Thunderf00t’s channel, hit the “about” tab and then click the little “block” button then it won’t recommend any more videos from him. It might take a day or two for Youtube to apply the changes (it did in my case anyway) but then it means a better Youtube.

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