WTF is a MGTOW? A Glossary

On this blog, MRA does not stand for Magnetic Resonance Angiography

NOTE: This page is in desperate need of revision and expansion. In the meantime, I suggest you use Rationalwiki’s Manosphere Glossary.

For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.

First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:

MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.

Ok, so what do those terms mean?

MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether.  I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.

Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:

Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).

Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.

Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.

The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.

NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.

PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”

Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.

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isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

OMG, deedodan, your arguments, they are convincing. You stated a thing, therefore it must be trufax forever and for all time.

Bina
9 years ago

“Female entitlement issues”? And what might THOSE be? Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, I’m guessing. Why any of those are a problem for miggy-toes is beyond me, though. If they’re so concerned with Going Their Own Way, why do they care so much about making our lives miserable?

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
9 years ago

miggy-toes

This would be such a cute name for a cat. But because of what it means, it can’t. Now I haz a sad.

CGHOW

http://oi58.tinypic.com/fog9js.jpg

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

“Capiche”? Does this guy think he’s some kind of threatening mobster from a pulp detective novel?

Breeze off, Daisy, the dames ain’t buyin’ it. *crosses gams and lights noir cigarette*

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

Fake cigarette, obviously. Kids, don’t try this at home.

katz
9 years ago

He’d better watch out for…femme fatales.

http://www.harkavagrant.com/nonsense/femmefatalesm.png

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
9 years ago

ROFL oh gods I love Hark, A Vagrant.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

That doctor one…Can’t.Stop.Laughing!

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
9 years ago

That was my favourite too.

Imagine the MGTOW catching Legs That Won’t Quit!

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
9 years ago

That brick joke with the bear hat sent coffee out my nose. Love it!

ParadoxicalIntention
9 years ago

I lost it at the Dentist’s office one.

“You are NOT getting a sticker.”

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

Imagine the MGTOW catching Legs That Won’t Quit!

That would be fitting, considering the rest of them won’t quit.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

I’m starting to think we should provide MGTOW with free compasses and gift certificates for orienteering courses, just so they’ll actually go somewhere.

ParadoxicalIntention
9 years ago

Or we could give them a one-way ticket to the trash island in the Pacific.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
9 years ago

That’s my ideal location for them and the whole scrotosphere, too.

marinerachel
marinerachel
9 years ago

They’d look great there.

grumpyoldnurse
9 years ago

Maybe we could make them clean it up?

NYUactive
NYUactive
9 years ago

Hey everyone,
This is the first time Im hearing of MIGTOW. It was brought to my attention by an old professor (female not that that should matter) of mine, as she was inviting me to attend an event on the topic. Now just for some background, I don’t have a strong opinion on the topic either way, and am currently in a long term relationship (with a wonderful woman). I have had my mixed bag of relationships just like many others who put themselves out there in the dating/ socialite setting.
Without commenting on the validity of this movement or of any third wave feminist ideals, i would like to point out that even if you don’t agree with the message of a movement (especially if you do not agree with the message of the movement), the best way to undermine your credibility and bolster the credibility of the movement you seek to oppose is to respond to the movement in a way that is public (internet) and in a manner which is consistent with the point of views that the movement is attempting to promulgate.

e.g. MGTOW would likely be more successful in affecting social and political change if they did not take the hard-line, black and white approach that they claim to oppose in the third wave feminist movement. There may be a trend towards one pole of female behavior or the other (which I have not noticed and even if I had, a sample size of 1 is not very effective for drawing conclusions from) but the idea that “eastern women” are bad is simply too broad of a statement to be ever taken seriously. The same applies to the third wave feminist movement.

This being said, critics of the MGTOW movement only enforce the movements message in responding in a way that mirrors the movements complaints about women. Granted there is some sarcasm in the above posts. Even so, such sarcasm takes a toll on the credibility of the critics. To the serious responses, use your heads and respond in a manner that proves that you are indeed not jealous, immature, and vindictive as the movement seems to think you are. Just something to think about as this movement that I never in a million years though would get traction is being discussed very seriously on one of the top law campuses in the U.S., likely due to increased support due to predictable opposition.

TL;DR- Do not act like a five-year-old, and you opposition or promotion of a cause will be much more efficient.

Malitia
Malitia
9 years ago

Hmmmm, let’s see:
“My best friend professor is a woman…”
“I’m not a MGTOW (I’m in a relationship!) but…”
“Let me mansplain that for you!”
“Why can’t you be nicer to misogynists?!”
“Yes. I failed to comprehend what this site is about.”
Conclusion: Unoriginal. Boring troll is boring.

Malitia
Malitia
9 years ago

Ugh… I borked the html. :/

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
9 years ago

Did he literally try “Some of my best friends are women”?

He literally tried “Some of my best friends are women.”

Everybody, take a drink!

emilygoddess - MOD
emilygoddess - MOD
9 years ago

NYUA, thank you so much for mansplaining this to us!

isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

How is it SO. MANY. trolls lack such basic reading comprehension? It’s literally the first thing you see on this blog, NYUidiot. I’ll say it small words. This site is where bad people who hate women get made fun of! That is the purpose of the site! Do you get it now? I’m not sure how to say it more clearly.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

If we just stopped talking about misogyny, it would go away. Why.. why….it’s so simple! Why didn’t anyone think of that before! ?

And yes, I screwed up the ellipses on purpose.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

NYUA – “tone it down, ladies” isn’t helpful when there are men out there willing to hurt and kill us for not showing sufficient deference. That isn’t hyperbole, by the way.

Responding seriously to MGTOWs is a complete waste of time. Right off the bat, they automatically dismiss anything a woman says. Sarcasm is a much better weapon for exposing the ridiculousness of their position.

We aren’t bullies picking on victims for laughs. MGTOWs aren’t simply men who’ve been hurt by women. They’re a special class of angry, self-absorbed, entitled abusers who’ve been rejected by women (for very good reasons) and are out for revenge and won’t rest until the entire world agrees that women are nothing but evil, repellant, inferior sex-dispensers. They’re dangerous. Look at their rhetoric. Look at the way they talk about women, the slurs they use, the threats, the graphic descriptions of what they’d like to do, the eliminationist language. Now imagine they’re saying those things about your mother, your sister, your daughter, your girlfriend. Do you still think “sweet ‘n’ submissive” is a proper response to someone who thinks all the women in your life are “wh*res” and “cum dumpsters”? Or that MGTOWs would engage in any level of reasoned, measured debate?

They’re a lost cause. They’re trying so hard to convince themselves of the rightness of their beliefs that they won’t listen to anyone else. They’ve got their fingers permanently stuck in their ears and their eyes permanently shut to the world.

At least we’re reality-based. And fun.

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