WTF is a MGTOW? A Glossary

On this blog, MRA does not stand for Magnetic Resonance Angiography

NOTE: This page is in desperate need of revision and expansion. In the meantime, I suggest you use Rationalwiki’s Manosphere Glossary.

For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.

First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:

MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.

Ok, so what do those terms mean?

MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether.  I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.

Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:

Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).

Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.

Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.

The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.

NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.

PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”

Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.

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weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

We’re all about individualism? I thought we were all socialist big gub’mint loving “liberals.”

Kim
Kim
9 years ago

What they’re worth is based on what they themselves are willing to offet you as a person and then as a man.

No, “what they’re worth” has no connection at all to some arsewipe MGTOW. You try to sound reasonable, but then you come out with this howler that shows you think women’s only value is in what they can do for men.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
9 years ago

And he still hasn’t gone. Is the troll really “A Man Who Kinda Sorta Might Someday Possibly Think About Maybe Taking a Step Towards Going Somewhere That’s Not Here?”

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

It is condescending isn’t it? Let those feminists have their little opinions, because you never know, they may still sex you.

vaiyt
9 years ago

Just because you have a Girlfriend doesn’t mean you can’t be a Mgtow.

I think that is going to put a damper on that whole plan to make women sorry that you’re gone.

contrapangloss
contrapangloss
9 years ago

… So he still hasn’t gone his own merry little way, yet?

Bummer.

Unknown Traveler
Unknown Traveler
9 years ago

You haven’t figured out that im not mgtow. Or maybe that it’s a free country and I can voice my opinion. Or Just maybe my own way involves speaking out against women like you. If you don’t like what I have to say then don’t listen.

And no kim, one persons worth towards another person depends on what aspects of themselves they reveal. This goes for men and women. You are what you say and do towards one another, and that speaks volumes about character. Regardless of your sucesses your character will always be worth more.

And that reminds me. I was very polite to you gals, even though you weren’t. That’s probably the strongest point ive made so far.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago
weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

You can use polite language and still be rude in a passive aggressive and condescending way. Like calling us “gals” for example.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

I would actually argue that saying something like “women are only worth as much as they can give to men” is fucking rude, regardless of the language in which it is couched.

vaiyt
9 years ago

You haven’t figured out that im not mgtow.

You seem awfully invested in defending their point of view, though. Or at least what you might think is their point of view, filtered through the eyes of someone who read the About page of mgtow.com and nothing else.

Catalpa
Catalpa
9 years ago

You keep using that acronym. I do not think it means what you think it means.

It seems like UTI thinks that ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ means ‘Men Doing Whatever The Hell They Want’, and not men swearing off interactions with women to “protect/better” themselves. I mean, it’s not like most other MGTOWs actually stop interacting with women (at least in the sense of stopping talking about them frequently and harrassing them), but at least they don’t claim that one can have a girlfriend and still be MTGOW

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
9 years ago

It just pisses me off when proclaimed mgtow show there ass without something interesting to say.

http://i49.tinypic.com/28ind6q.jpg

Then why the hell are you still threadshitting posting?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@unknown traveller:

I mean, i even agreed with u that most mgtow that come here are looking for validation. But you guys weren’t able to catch that due too your quest for misogyny.

Well now I’m right chuffed. Look no further than my previous comment on this very page, where I said this:

When MGTOW go around announcing to various feminists that they are leaving, the purpose isn’t for validation. They want a reaction. They want women to feel that all the good men are leaving, feel sad about it, and feel like they have to change their ways to bring the men back.

Others responded to your “validation” thing too. Why is it that trolls need to insist that nobody is reading their posts when they don’t bother reading other people’s posts to see if that’s true? Annoying…

katz
9 years ago

The only thing he appears to be going his own way from is grammar and punctuation.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@Unknown Traveller

You haven’t figured out that im not mgtow. Or maybe that it’s a free country and I can voice my opinion. Or Just maybe my own way involves speaking out against women like you.

So, you aren’t a mgtow, but you have “your own way” that you are going? And you’re speaking out against women as part of “your own way” but we need to understand that you’re “not here for [the women here]. Im here for [the MGTOW here]?” Maybe you need to sit and have a think about why you’re here; seems like even you don’t know.

If you don’t like what I have to say then don’t listen.

Apparently you haven’t figured out that maybe it’s a free country and we can voice our opinion of your opinion.

katz
9 years ago

IMO, anyone who says “it’s a free country and I can say whatever I want” should be immediately put on moderation to demonstrate that he can’t, in fact, say whatever he wants.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@katz:

Nooooo, but freeze peach!

But yeah, especially someone who says that:

a) On the internet, which isn’t the United States
b) When they follow up with “so therefore shut up and stop criticizing me and my opinions.”

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
9 years ago

We haven’t figured out if you are an annoying person or an annoying bot either.
Doesn’t change the fact that you are making a fool of yourself in public.

Bina
9 years ago

MGTOW are super concerned about what women can offer them, huh? Means they aren’t going their own way, and never will. They just want to know if anyone cares to watch them flounce. And no, no one does. They won’t be missed. They can stumble over all the Legos, for all I care. I am so NOT going to panic and go “damn, I’m gonna miss out, better change my ways!” just because some sorehead is unhappy about women not being all wifey-mothery anymore. For every wanker who “goes his own way”, there are countless better men out there who won’t give me shit about how I live my own life.

Robert
Robert
9 years ago

The presumable internal monologue here is disheartening. “I keep coming back and saying the same thing over and over, and yet they refuse to accept the Trooth of my mighty wisdom! They even seem to be mocking me. Oh, well, another dozen tries. . .”

Also, I miss LBT. I hope they’re doing all right.

grumpyoldnurse
9 years ago

I also love how we’re all ‘gals’. Sorry to all the non-gal people here who’ve been mis-gendered! And even the other woman type people like me who don’t appreciate being called ‘gals’ by random internet d00ds. But I guess that was the point.

Yeah, Robert, totally agree with hoping LBT are doing OK. And missing them.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

As if we haven’t had enough Vogon poetry recently, now we need the couldn’t find his own way if we handed him a compass and a map variety? I second the motion for the mods to freeze his peaches immediately, just to annoy him.

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

Which country is he calling free, anyway? The proud nation of Internettia?

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

Echoing the good thoughts for LBT. I miss them too.

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