NOTE: This page is in desperate need of revision and expansion. In the meantime, I suggest you use Rationalwiki’s Manosphere Glossary.
For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.
First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:
MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement
MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.
Ok, so what do those terms mean?
MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.
MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether. I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.
Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:
Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).
Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.
Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.
The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.
NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.
PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”
Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.
If I was offended by something another person wrote, I could admit it.
OH, no one can understand what you are trying to say. I interpreted your words thusly: you consider MRAs and PUAs to be very different, because you believe MRAs are all right wing and PUAs are simply geeky dudes who don’t know how to talk to women these categories are, to your mind, mutually exclusive. You believe that MRAs are deliberately trying to associate themselves with PUAs because of the better public perception of them. Is that right?
If so, a) there are plenty of left libertarian MRAs, b) there is no reason that I can see why you can’t be both a PUA and an MRA by your definitions, and c) I don’t think PUAs have a better reputation than MRAs, though I do think more people actually know what a PUA is. If not… maybe try to clarify your point so that we can figure out what you’re talking about.
I really do think that OH is drunk or stoned. I’ve seen OH around here before and this is the first time I’ve seen them making really weird random comments.
Thirding that, Ally.
High or not I’m not inclined to humor his belligerence.
If I ever felt sincerely enchanted and entertained by something someone wrote, I would say thank you – I don’t know why it’s so hard to admit I offended you.
Yes in response yes I was saying there is a distinct difference in the genres MRA and PUA, with MRA being what I consider to be worse, in general.
Judith Butler’s writing makes more sense than this.
It’s great though that none of you are offended – just entertained and enchanted with me.
You know, it’s clear I am a pretty attractive guy, I realize you have no proof you can just feel it. Believe me, if you had face to face evidence of how sexy I am, you all would be drooling. I could go to bed with any one of you – even the men up here are a woman if you’re in my presence. I’ll give you the ride of your life – but – to get on this jet – you gotta pay how you weigh.
@ Ally
Dude is starting to creep me out, tbh.
Uhm, WTF?
Same here. I wasn’t creeped out earlier, just amused – but the comment I just quoted from him is…wow.
I get girls begging me, “please hunk, go away briefly so my desire can decrease to a more comfortable level”.
Yeah, creeped out by that skyrocketing level of desire. Even dudes are coming up to me saying “I’m not normally gay but please go out with me one time”. If they got money then cool.
LOL. Nothing like bigging yourself up and looking really stupid in the process. Is this your PUA style of getting the ladies? Hope so.
Wankers, wankers everywhere!
I congratulate the honesty of the person who admitted they’re creeped out.
In this case maybe we should call the process “icking yourself up”.
I am creeped out by you too.
(Passes ophelia some Purell)
He’s obviously just trolling to make people upset. It’s pretty tiresome.
Only bleach will do for this one I’m afraid.
Purell? You use PURELLL!??? Purell’s for fat girls. HELLLO!!!!
Oh, trolling to make you upset. I do all this typing FOR YOU, and this is how you thank me for it.
So at this time of night, where’s your bird then?
Well that’s shut you up for a while.