WTF is a MGTOW? A Glossary

On this blog, MRA does not stand for Magnetic Resonance Angiography

NOTE: This page is in desperate need of revision and expansion. In the meantime, I suggest you use Rationalwiki’s Manosphere Glossary.

For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.

First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:

MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.

Ok, so what do those terms mean?

MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether.  I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.

Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:

Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).

Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.

Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.

The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.

NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.

PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”

Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.

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cloudiah
11 years ago

Well, clearly “feminism” is too big of a word for Andi to understand. Maybe no more than 2 syllables?

katz
11 years ago

Running total: -8/10

Ally S
11 years ago

Sorry but it is. Feminism is vastly influential and feminist influenced thinking is now the norm I see around me every day. Politicians daren’t say anything that might offend feminism because anyone who does is immediately branded a rape apologist, misogynist or whatever and they calculate it’s best not to open that can of worms.

Result is a distinct lack of honest dialogue.

The evidence you’re citing doesn’t really support the notion that feminism is mainstream. It merely supports the notion that bigots are being called out for being bigoted more than ever before, which is good, but it’s not proof that feminism is mainstream, sorry. You’re also ignoring the vast majority of people, who still have rape apologist and misogynistic views. As well as the fact that certain feminist women face cyber-bullying over the internet.

Also, we don’t need to have “honest dialogue” with people who see women as less than fully human.

katz
11 years ago

Well, I agree that there’s a lack of honest dialogue here…

PJ
PJ
11 years ago

I’ve looked at the mens rights movement and am not fully convinced.

And what with you being completely objective, you’ve also commented on MRA forums and told them what you think they’re doing wrong. How did it go?

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

auggziliary – This is an MRA we’re talking about. Or if not an outright one, someone who sympathizes with them. Since when have they ever been known to take a history class?

I mean, they hate you if you TAKE history, why else would they hate on gender studies so much?

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

’ve looked at the mens rights movement and am not fully convinced. I’ve looked at todays feminism and am very unconvinced. As has been pointed out, as a single individual I don’t really matter but many people are now questioning feminism and it’s tactics and just shouting “misogynist” very loudly at anyone who disagrees isn’t really a good enough response from a movement that now shapes government policy throughout The West.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I thought you were fucking off.

Ally S
11 years ago

I’m leaving now guys BUT WAIT I’M GOING TO POST SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE BEING TOLD TO FUCK OFF

MGTOW attitude in a nutshell

Athywren
Athywren
11 years ago

I’ve looked at the mens rights movement and am not fully convinced.

And what with you being completely objective, you’ve also commented on MRA forums and told them what you think they’re doing wrong. How did it go?

I’ve never really understood that approach anyway. When I was looking at feminism and men’s rights, I didn’t go to either side and assert that they’re foolish for whatever they’re doing, I just lurked and listened. Seems to me that people are a better source of information when they don’t know you’re looking for it.

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Ok, bored with squeaky toy, now. It’s become predictable & repetitive.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Bat it into the corner and find a new one! Good’s been in the newest thread if you want an old tired comfort toy?

katz
11 years ago

Good is the stupid knockoff toy your parents got you for Christmas instead of the one you wanted.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

I…that is very fitting.

He should go step on mega blocks.

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Ah, but it’s definitely entertaining watching Pecunium toying iwth him.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

It’a entertaining to watch pecunium do most things. I learned a great deal about Cali’s flood control system over the weekend, because he’s just as interesting to listen to in person.

kittehserf
11 years ago

B. Man Boobz =/= the feminist movement, although actually I think if the regulars here shaped government policy throughout the West we would actually do pretty well.

It would inaugurate the open rule of the Furrinati, which could only be a good thing.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Hmm, which troll is more stupid, Andi or Good? That line about politicians not daring speak for fear of feminist anger says someone hasn’t heard a word from any politician anywhere in decades. When it’s not Republicans talking about “legitimate rape” it’s that gobshite in India blaming the student “Braveheart” for her own death by gang rape because she didn’t pray and smile sweetly at her attackers.

katz
11 years ago

Andi amuses me a little; no force in the universe could make me want to read Good’s comments.

kittehserf
11 years ago

I find them both too stupid and too fond of hyperbole to be amusing. Tedious pair. Where are the great trolls of yore, I say? Where are they? ::stamps brand new pewter coloured cane on floor::

Fade
11 years ago

Sorry but it is. Feminism is vastly influential and feminist influenced thinking is now the norm I see around me every day Politicians daren’t say anything that might offend feminism because anyone who does is immediately branded a rape apologist, misogynist or whatever and they calculate it’s best not to open that can of worms.

*cough* evidence? *cough*

I mean, yes, feminism is influential, since it’s made progress, but we obviously still have a long way to go. And I have not seen politicians bend over backwards to not offend feminists. I have seen them try to take away people with uteruses’ rights to control their own bodies, though.

@kittehserf

pewter? This sounds like a nice cane… XD

grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
11 years ago

“For people who “daren’t say anything that might offend,” they sure are saying a lot that offends.”

Yup. And the claim feminism shapes “government policy in the West” . . . sheesh. If only.

Athywren
Athywren
11 years ago

For the record, I don’t want politicians to be afraid to say misogynistic shit. I want them to recognise that saying misogynistic shit is irrational and hateful, and to not say it because they’re rational and decent people. I’d much rather that irrational and hateful people said exactly what they thought so we could happily ignore the losers.

grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
11 years ago

Yes, and I think irrational and hateful people should not be elected.

Athywren
Athywren
11 years ago

Heh, dream on! 😛

grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
11 years ago

Thank you, I shall. 🙂

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