WTF is a MGTOW? A Glossary

On this blog, MRA does not stand for Magnetic Resonance Angiography

NOTE: This page is in desperate need of revision and expansion. In the meantime, I suggest you use Rationalwiki’s Manosphere Glossary.

For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.

First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:

MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.

Ok, so what do those terms mean?

MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether.  I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.

Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:

Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).

Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.

Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.

The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.

NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.

PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”

Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.

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Ally S
11 years ago

“Misogynists, pathetic and shameless as they are.”

Fixed that for you.

Praetorian
Praetorian
11 years ago

Hypergamy is an intrinsic female trait although it may be in low levels within some.

gelar
gelar
11 years ago

I don’t really care about any value judgments he made- good on everyone he’s talking about, doing what they like!

Praetorian
Praetorian
11 years ago

At this day and age. Men surely do win. No need for sex, no need for women. It’s all they can offer.

Praetorian
Praetorian
11 years ago

Well of course women have no use for men who see reality as it is and have the intellectual capacity to respond to it. No need for sex, no need for women. That’s all they can offer.

Praetorian
Praetorian
11 years ago

You said it all. Thank you.

CassandraSays
11 years ago

Our new friend definitely is showing his intellectual capacity here, just not in the way that he thinks.

Ally S
11 years ago

“No need for sex, no need for women. That’s all they can offer.”

To you, that is – because you’re a misogynist.

cloudiah
11 years ago

I asked such a specific, relevant question, that it makes me grumpy that Praetorian won’t answer.

Now for real, good night!

Digital_Spy
Digital_Spy
11 years ago

Praetorian | June 26, 2013 at 1:04 am

At this day and age. Men surely do win. No need for sex, no need for women. It’s all they can offer.

I don’t actually think it’s a matter of winning anything per se. It’s a decision you’ve made to go your own way. That’s all really. I suppose there’s porn for you to get off on if you suddenly want some kind of sexual release or is porn not on the agenda? Curious to know whether going your own way means you don’t look at porn either?? Is that not allowed? Could you not bring yourself to get off on watching a chick being banged from here to eternity because .. well … she’s a woman and you don’t like them? Or do you like watching them getting a good seeing to?

CassandraSays
11 years ago

I think he should go his own way away from porn, because porn can pay quite well for the women who act in it and obviously that won’t do. If you continue to use porn you’re admitting that you’re psychologically dependent on women!

Also I think he needs to take a vow not to interact with women in the service industry, just because it would be funny to watch someone frantically running around trying to find an all-male coffee shop, bank, and so on.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Ok, I know I’m one to talk, but wasn’t the last Latin nym MRAL?

CassandraSays
11 years ago

Since we haven’t had a Pell sighting in a while I’m assuming any troll noob may be him. Otoh, it’s occurred to me that he may be Al too.

Digital_Spy
Digital_Spy
11 years ago

@Cassandra – I totally agree! Was just curious what he had to say about porn but I think he’s gone. Oh well …

Ali
Ali
11 years ago

Watching free porn (which there are tons!) does not benefit women. Hence, I don’t see why MGTOWs cannot watch free porn.

Praetorian
Praetorian
11 years ago

No, I have no need for porn. I prefer to focus on intellectual pursuits while enjoying my freedom to do as I please, when I please. When you put sex in it’s proper priority there is no need for either porn or women. Sex is, after all, the only thing they can bring to the table in relationships.

sebhai
sebhai
11 years ago

Praetorian@
Well aren’t you liberated…Meanwhile on the MGTOW forums all I see is the same people keep saying ” Don’t get married,just keep banging hoes”.And yet women often being criticised if they’re not interested in(or rejected) sex in the first places…

Digital_Spy
Digital_Spy
11 years ago

Praetorian | July 13, 2013 at 11:59 pm

No, I have no need for porn. I prefer to focus on intellectual pursuits while enjoying my freedom to do as I please, when I please. When you put sex in it’s proper priority there is no need for either porn or women. Sex is, after all, the only thing they can bring to the table in relationships.

So women don’t look after the kids, drop them off at school, go to said school if something is wrong, look after them when they’re ill, keep a tidy house, wash and iron your clothes, make you dinner, run errands, do the shopping, buy all the Xmas/Birthday presents etc etc. We just offer sex and that’s it? Have you ever been in a relationship?

Kittehserf
Kittehserf
11 years ago

If sex is all women bring to a relationship, we’re still bringing more than Praetorian would.

CassandraSays
11 years ago

Hey, let’s try to think positive here – if you were trying to diet then his presence might put you off your dinner.

Kittehserf
Kittehserf
11 years ago

Yeah, but dieting via vomiting is a high price to pay.

CassandraSays
11 years ago

On the plus side if you puked on him maybe he’d finally go his own way?

…Nah, he’d just demand that you do his laundry.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

I still think he’s Mr. Al. All the more so given he’s back the fucking day after Al’s latest sock got banned.

He’d be a great test for an anger management class final though.

Kittehserf
Kittehserf
11 years ago

The pomposity has an Alish sound to it. He was trying this tedious nonsense back in June, upthread.

Kittehserf
Kittehserf
11 years ago

…Nah, he’d just demand that you do his laundry.

And want to watch your bras in the machine.

… Oh, that isn’t sex?

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