WTF is a MGTOW? A Glossary

On this blog, MRA does not stand for Magnetic Resonance Angiography

NOTE: This page is in desperate need of revision and expansion. In the meantime, I suggest you use Rationalwiki’s Manosphere Glossary.

For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.

First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:

MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.

Ok, so what do those terms mean?

MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether.  I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.

Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:

Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).

Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.

Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.

The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.

NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.

PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”

Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.

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Jack
Jack
11 years ago

Why mock guys who just figured out that going into a legel construct. Were he could lose everything isnt a great idea.

James
James
11 years ago

MGTOW:

At is core it men choosing not to marry. And other identification is determind by the man.

If you are intrestind in find more about this trend in changes in males approch to marrage check out. http://www.mgtow.com/

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Grammar aside (“legel construct”? WTF, Jack. James, your entire post was iffy)
I love when dudebros come in this space and announce that they’re not interested in marriage. I know what you want. Something along the line of, “No! Stop! Come back! We will make ourselves worthy so you will be interested in marriage again!”

Not going to happen. *Chuckling* No one here cares.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I will never understand why a group of men going their own way and want nothing to do with women obsess over them 24/7. Not really GYOW, is it?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I’m especially curious why those of us who’re already married are supposed to care.

(Not that I would insult those of our commenters who’re single by suggesting that they’d ever hook up with someone ridiculous enough to call himself a MGTOW.)

marinerachel
marinerachel
11 years ago

The choice to “go their own way” was made for them by the fact so few people would be willing to marry them. Presenting it as some kind of empowering personal choice just feels like “You can’t fire me – I quit!”

Kittehserf
11 years ago

MGTOW usually turn out to be of the “not if you were the last man on earth” variety. And I don’t mean Vincent Price, Charlton Heston or Will Smith, with or without cute dogs …

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

What’s funny is I’m not interested in getting married, but I don’t go around saying, “Hey boys, better start crying now, ’cause I’m going my own way. I’m off the market” I mean, come on.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

That’s the thing, I don’t know any people who aren’t interested in marriage and treat it as if it’s getting back at all the nasty [insert gender of choice here]. Could it be that the MGTOW are all outraged that women aren’t falling over themselves to marry such prime specimens of manhood?

(I had to force myself to write that last sentence.)

I mean, jeez, I stopped having any ideas of a partner once I’d laid eyes on that pic of the Mister when I was a slip of a girl, but I’m pretty sure I didn’t run around yelling at blokes that I was GMOW ‘cos they were a bunch of failures or something.

In other exciting news, Mads was lying under my feet here and saying “mww” but has now run off. She’s a CGHOW.

marinerachel
marinerachel
11 years ago

The idea I should pout in response to these fine gentlemen swearing off marriage is what humours me so.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

One could pout in a “What took you so long?” way. Or a “What, you still here?” way.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Given their continued refusal to actually go anywhere I’m wondering if they’re just directionally challenged. Would it help if we drew them a map?

Digital_Spy
Digital_Spy
11 years ago

What truly annoys me is the way men make it sound like it’s some kind of threat aimed at women when they decide to go their own way or never want marriage or kids. You know, like women give a flying fcuk! Do whatever you want, no one actually cares. I’ve read some of the comments on MGTOW and most of them sound like they’re written by paranoid, deranged nut jobs who are so over the top and bitter that it’s really all rather funny. I read the comments out to my girl friends and they just laugh at how childish the men are on there. They all sound pathetic and it’s hardly surprising they’re all divorced. They talk like the world owes them something. I mean one guy is planning to leave his wife and she’s being really nice to him and he says he even got a blow job off her. How damn shallow is that! Most of the blokes sound like misogynistic pigs. I’m amazed they even got a wife in the first place. Go your own way, hell no one is stopping you because no one cares.

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
11 years ago

Hey, I’m not interested in football.

I’m SAFS, I’m Staying Away From Stadiums – depriving pointless teams of my income! Hahahhah! Oh, the joy. Damn clubs got nothing on me, I’m free!

Except, of course, the choice to participate in any kind of football is a personal one and it doesn’t matter if I do or don’t because… if I do, that’s great, for the people I’m involved with and if I don’t they probably have fun anyway, and so do I with the things I enjoy doing.

If MGTOW’s don’t want to get married then they… don’t have to get married. Seriously. I hope you guys have fun with your lives. All the best.

And the bitterness is funny. And the paranoia is amusing. And the constant inability to actualy go and not obsess is plainly the funniest thing about them.

But honestly? I’m pretty sure if these guys were not, in fact, utter assholes they could be happy in their relationships.

Of course that implies that what I’m saying is actually “If their entire personalities were different, they’d be different people!”. Heh.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

At is core it men choosing not to marry.

Men not marrying! This is a totally new phenomenon! That has never happened before in the history of forever! And thus needs a stupid acronym! Because it will end civilization!

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

Also, in other news! Sometimes adults make choices and no one gives a shit! THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD!

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
11 years ago

Of course. This is the Last Great Generation, they have Seen The Light and become Enlightened With The Knowledge of an Impending Collapse. You can tell on Account of the Great Pomposity Which They Speak.

Civilization is over, this is our end run, we’ve got Ipads and its all down hill from here. Totally.
Better stock up on beans, Bagelsan, because the fact that a tiny bit of the population refuses to marry will mean that the basic social contract of the entire world is void.

Just like it was 2000 years ago, when romans waxed lyrically about the faded glorious of the past and the inevitable decline.

Pshaw.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
11 years ago

Also KIDS THESE DAYS. Always on my lawn. Amiright?

Fade
11 years ago

I like how they think there’s something original about men not marrying, when they’ve already got a word for it.

*cough* bachelor*cough*

And no one acts like it’s horrible. YOu’re a BACHELOR!!! THE WORLD HAS COME TO AN END

Digital_Spy
Digital_Spy
11 years ago

I don’t get how these men are going about this. It’s almost like a threat that they won’t marry/never have a girlfriend again and I’m not sure how they want women to react. Start sobbing, beg them to change their minds, worry ourselves stupid about it, be shocked and awed .. what exactly? No one cares. It’s their choice what they do but I hope the guys on MGTOW realise it takes two to make a marriage work so instead of totally annihilating their ex, have a good look at your own behaviour as well, something many men never do. No introspection!

marinerachel
marinerachel
11 years ago

That’s the thing – they perceive it as a punishment but the people they’re punishing don’t care. I, for one, am relieved they aren’t pursuing marriage.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

@ade – not to mention that the word bachelor has long had positive connotations: the free, unburdened, sophisticated man-about-town; the gay bachelor (before gay had its current meaning). That’s something spinster never had: an unmarried woman was to be pitied or scorned. These clowns acting like they’re doing something new and heroic are just flapping their delusions at the world … and getting frothy when the world doesn’t even glance their way.

@Cassandra: “Given their continued refusal to actually go anywhere I’m wondering if they’re just directionally challenged. Would it help if we drew them a map?”

Possibly not, since they’re of the “couldn’t find his arse with a map” level of intelligence.

marinerachel
marinerachel
11 years ago

Not to mention, if they were following a map, they wouldn’t be going their own way! These men follow no one’s rules but their own.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Also, maps don’t really work if you hold them upside down, and since upside down seems to describe their views on reality…yeah, maybe GPS?

marinerachel
marinerachel
11 years ago

They seem to be more the “Follow your nose” type.

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