Comments Policy

The comments policy in brief

UPDATED 7/10/19

Unmoderated or too-loosely moderated internet forums quickly become shitheaps, so we have a few rules here.

One thing to remember right off the bat: this is a feminist blog, designed (mostly) for a feminist audience. You don’t have to be a feminist to post here, but if you don’t think the world would be a better place without so much fascism and misogyny, you’re not going to fit in. You have a right to your opinions, but you don’t have a right to our attention.

First comments from new commenters – or old commenters changing their name – automatically go to moderation. Regardless of your politics, if you start off here with a jerky or tediously argumentative comment, or if you trigger some other red flag for me, your first comment will never see the light of day.

So what are the big no-nos?

You’re NOT welcome if you’re: a racist, a misogynist, an antisemite, a homophobe, a transphobe or TERF, a MAGA-hat-wearing Trump fan, a fat-phobe, an edgelord, an asshole, a bad-faith comment policy tester, or just a blathering dingus that no one wants to have to listen to. This list is not all-inclusive; I can ban you for being offensive and/or annoying in ways not specified here. Sending me long whiny emails afterwards won’t help your chances of being reinstated.

Some things to avoid: slurs (c*nt, tr*nny, etc; keep in mind that TERF is not a slur); piling on; blaming someone’s bad ideas and/or behavior on mental illness or other medical conditions (though it’s ok to mention mental illness if it’s relevant); disrespect towards working-class or poor people, old people, young people, disabled people, people with mental illnesses, people literally or figuratively living in their mom’s basement. Don’t attack people based on their physical appearance. 

No threats or violent comments. That includes telling someone to “die in a fire” or remarking that so-and-so would probably be better off dead. No calls for violent revolution or political assassination or any of that bullshit.

No gratuitously nasty personal attacks. Yes, discussions can sometimes get a bit contentious. You’re not required to be perfectly nice all the time. Just don’t be a total asshole.

No doxxing or posting of personal identifying information. Don’t spread rumors or speculate without evidence on the possible criminal activity of anyone else. Don’t use this site to organize harassment of anyone.

No rape apologism, pedo apologism, victim blaming, and so forth. No slut-shaming; no virgin-shaming. (Suggesting that people with terrible ideas about women might have trouble getting dates is fine, however; it’s also true.)

Don’t misgender anyone. If you do it accidentally, apologize and get it right the next time. If you do it deliberately, you’re out.

Don’t attack anyone for their sexual preferences or kinks, so long as they involve consenting adults. Refrain from weird or creepy sexual oversharing. Whatever your opinion of sex work, don’t disparage sex workers, or use words like “whore” as a pejorative. (Feel free to talk about MRAs who are using the word pejoratively.)

Don’t attack people for their religion or their lack of religion.

Don’t be a mansplainer or indeed any kind of ‘splainer. That is, don’t lecture anyone on something they know better than you, particularly if that thing is their lived experience.

Don’t post too much or try to make threads all about you. Try to avoid drama.

Avoid giving unsolicited advice, particularly on medical or weight issues.

No sockpuppeting. No lying. No misrepresentation of yourself or other people. No posting in bad faith – e.g. posting friendly comments here while trashing the site and/or the people on it elsewhere.

Sometimes I do let trolls and MAGA-heads and MRAs through, but only if I think they might be kind of fun for the regular commenters to bat around for a while. I will ban them if they become more offensive/annoying than entertaining.

If someone is violating these rules or being a huge asshole in ways I haven’t specified, don’t just drop a note in the comments, SEND ME AN EMAIL at dfutrelle at gmail dot com.

That’s basically it. If you’re concerned that the rules seem too strict, please read on:

Regardless of all the rules, you don’t have to be perfect to comment here. As sociologist Katherine Cross (@Quinnae_Moon) has noted, very few people arrive “fully formed to the world of activism, the perfect agents of change, somehow entirely cognizant of the ever shifting morass of rules and prescribed or proscribed words, phrases, argot, and thought.”

I want this blog to be open to all those who genuinely oppose misogyny and bigotry more generally, even those who may slip up from time to time.

Still, if you’re new here, or new to feminism, and the regulars here are telling you to avoid certain words, or pointing out something that you’re doing that’s problematic, don’t take it as a personal attack (unless it is couched as a personal attack, in which case email me). If they tell you to avoid particular language, uh, avoid using that language, and don’t explain that in your country calling a person a something-or-other is perfectly fine.

You don’t have to agree with all the rules and/or cultural norms here; but while you’re commenting here you are expected to respect them. If you think a rule is really, really wrong or ridiculous, don’t argue about it in the comments; send me an email about it.

And this brings us to the issue of ableism, which has been a contentious one here.

NOTES ON “CRAZY”

Avoid “crazy” talk. That is, using words like “crazy,” “psycho” and the like to describe the terrible ideas and actions of people you don’t like. It’s stigmatizing to those dealing with mental illness, who really don’t need the extra indignity of being compared to MRAs. Try using words like “ridiculous” or “absurd” or “terrible” instead. Call someone an “asshole” instead of a “psycho.” Try to avoid internet diagnoses of mental illness, and don’t use autism or Aspergers as an excuse for someone’s shitty behavior.

Saying someone is “paranoid,” “delusional,” or “narcissistic” is fine, if you don’t mean it as a diagnosis; these are useful descriptive terms.

If there is evidence that someone you are discussing does indeed have a mental illness, and this is relevant to the discussion, it can be appropriate to bring this up, though you should keep in mind that a hunch is not evidence.

All this said, words like “crazy,” “psycho,” and the like are extremely common, and plenty of people (including feminists, progressives, and people dealing with mental illness themselves) use them casually without intending to stigmatize those with mental illnesses. There’s a difference between saying “crazy people should all be locked up” and “boy, Eraserhead sure was a crazy movie!”

If you’re someone who uses these terms casually, and doesn’t actually want all “crazy” people locked up, it doesn’t make you an evil person, but you need to refrain from doing it here. (Again, if you disagree with this policy, and feel a need to make this disagreement known, DO NOT ARGUE ABOUT IT IN THE COMMENTS, send me an email instead.)

If you are a regular commenter here, and someone uses a problematic term like “crazy” or “psycho,” remind them gently that this is not how we do things here, and send them a link to this comment policy (and possibly the Welcome Package as well). Unless what they have said is particularly egregious, do not insult them or question their motives.

If they argue, remind them that arguing about this rule is also not allowed. If they continue,do not argue back; send me or the mods a note and they will be banned. (This may take a little while, so be patient and please do not give in to the impulse to argue with them.)

If others have already reminded them of the rules, move on.

Again, if someone is acting really shitty in the comments, whether a troll or a regular, SEND ME AN EMAIL.

One other thing to keep in mind:

MRAs read this blog. So I would strongly urge you to comment here using an anonymous handle that cannot be traced to your real identity. And to be very careful about revealing any sort of personal information on this blog. If you inadvertently post something using the wrong account, or that otherwise reveals personal information, let the mods know so we can remove those comments.

Oh, wait, one other other thought:

Enjoy yourself!

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CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

I’d think that a university librarian would be the person to ask about books on a very specific topic that you intend to cite in an academic study.

cloudiah
7 years ago

2nd the suggestion that you try a university librarian. If you’re in the US, most publicly-funded academic libraries will answer reference questions even if you are not a student/researcher/faculty member at that institution. Google Scholar is also your friend.

BigDaddyPat
BigDaddyPat
7 years ago

One thing most MRM blogs have on you guys is dedication to free speech. Real free speech, the First Amendment type including offensive and counter productive ramblings and name calling. One of the pillars of free Western society.

Hagiographic
7 years ago

What’s the use of, if not “silencing” differing opinions, but at least quieting them? Why would yo want to do that?

blabla
7 years ago

lol I saw your face on google and suddenly everything fell into place :’) good luck buddy

Dragon Lady
Dragon Lady
7 years ago

“One thing most MRM blogs have on you guys is dedication to free speech. Real free speech, the First Amendment type including offensive and counter productive ramblings and name calling. One of the pillars of free Western society.”

I sure hope that was sarcasm.

Radical Parrot
7 years ago

The fuck is it with trolls sneaking into inactive threads and talking bullshit? What’s anybody’s face have to do with anything? Is BigDaddyPat one of those people who confuse private individuals with the government, and the whole frickin’ Internet with the US of A?

Three rhetorical questions, you’re very welcome.

kittehserf
7 years ago

There’ve been some seriously moronic trolls on this one, haven’t there? “What’s the use of, if not “silencing” differing opinions, but at least quieting them? Why would yo want to do that?”

Yeah, because MRAs are so good at allowing anyone who thinks women are human to have a voice on their sites. They’re so good at not doxxing, threatening and stalking women who dare say anything they disapprove of on any subject, in any forum.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

It’s because they’re cowards.

Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

Kitteh — now why in the world would we want assholes to go be assholes someplace else? Don’t we know that the constitution ensures free speech and thus they have the right to call anyone whatever they want whenever and wherever they want?

Not that, you know, you’re in the US, or this is gov’n controlled, or we even silence opinions. Grasping that assholes will be dealt with accordingly is apparently Really Fucking Hard.

kittehserf
7 years ago

It’s sort of the TrollBrain 101 test, isn’t it? FREEZEPEACH!

Dragon Lady
Dragon Lady
7 years ago

For the love of God, won’t someone think of the FREEZE PEACHES for once?!

shadists
7 years ago

Humm, I wonder if this will go through,,,

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: shadists

All new members get moderated. Your comment came through fine.

Amy
Amy
7 years ago

I was curious about the person writing this, and so I googled David Futrelle, and found a picture that I clicked on that led me to this website where the web design was pictures of a witch/woman’s face/troll/something that came out of a sci fi movie, and I read a couple sentences, except I found it entirely disturbing and am about to go to bed so I didn’t want to have nightmares or something. But anyways, I read a few lines of accusations on David Futrelle, and I decided that David Futrelle is one of the coolest people I’ve found online. The amount of effort some very weird hateful people have put into trying to destroy you really shows that you are accomplishing something.

Lori
Lori
7 years ago

This is my first time on the ‘Man Boobz Forum’. Of course, I have heard of your blog (you’re infamous don’t ya know) and I am greatly impressed both by your accuracy and tolerance in dealing with the misogyny that has become rampant on the internet, and that creates such an imbalance in the gender debate. By their own admission, the MHRM rally at U of T had roughly one hundred and fifty people in attendance. You have to know that a percentage were members of the press waiting for something to happen worth their writing a piece on, and many others were people wandering through campus, who stopped to see what the hubbub was about. If this rally was a glowing success, we can only imagine the level of despair their failures reach. It is, of course, of little surprise to those of us who understand the numbers of blogs and channels on YouTube are a false representation of the views out here in the real world. The land of the misogynist is a small insignificant island, and perhaps one that should be given the cold shoulder and the lack of notice it is truly deserving of. I am torn between wondering if it would be more helpful to ignore them as a nuisance that will eventually die off like a nasty strain of flu, or if a few well placed knocks in the sensitive bits might be more likely to nip the unpleasantness in the bud. It disturbs me to read and view some of the hateful views on feminism that I thought died off in my granddad’s day, so turning away from it in the hopes it will die a natural death is difficult. What to do, what to do.

pugsly
pugsly
7 years ago

Ugh what a control freak.

melody
melody
7 years ago

I don’t believe I have ever read the rules…..
Shame on me.
You should ALWAYS read the rules when you post on the page.
It would be sad to be banned because you crossed a line.
Of course….it would take a lot to cross the above lines. And I don’t do the above things….

James
James
7 years ago

so this is a hate site right

kittehserf
7 years ago

LOL is your reading comprehension always this bad, sonny Jim?

cloudiah
7 years ago

Yes, James, this is a hate site. We hate misogyny. Also beets — I totally fucking hate beets.

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

Hate site? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Someone please tell me whether the MRAs have denounced doxxing women whose opinions they don’t like as a whole yet. Or whether the MRA movement as a whole have told people off for trans*phobia, homophobia, making threats of violence towards people, and the like.

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

cloudiah – I ABHOR misogynistic assholes. Does that count?

James
James
7 years ago

Can beleive the S.C.U.M here.

When will the feminist denounce poisoning dogs

cloudiah
7 years ago

Alice, but how do you feel about beets? I am interested in MISBEETRY. Or BEETANDRY. Oh fuck, I dunno.

Ally S
7 years ago

James, beet it.

kittehserf
7 years ago

No, no, not misplantry! A Voice for Sprouts must speak up! Where is the counter botanist theory when it’s needed?

(Does a counter botanist sell flowers, perchance?)

cloudiah
7 years ago

Erin Pizzey admitted that she didn’t know who shot her dog, and her dog didn’t die, but you want us to denounce poisoning dogs? I’m okay with that. I denounce poisoning dogs.

Where is AVfM’s official statement on poisoning dogs? I don’t see one. Clearly the MRM is in favor of poisoning dogs. And children! OMG, MRAs want to kill children!

cloudiah
7 years ago

James, beet it.

He he he. <3

James
James
7 years ago

the dog was still killed by feminsits

Did I say something you didn’t like, tough

Ally S
7 years ago

We’ve got a tough one here. Watch the fuck out.

James
James
7 years ago

This site is as relevent as maco in public.

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

cloudiah – YOU DARE DISCRIMINATE AGAINST BEETS?! MISPLANTRY!!11!!

*ahem* This has been your AVFS announcement. Carry on, members of the Furrinati.

kittehserf
7 years ago

How do you get “the dog was killed by feminists” from “Pizzey doesn’t know who killed her dog”, genius?

You fail to understand what’s happening here. We’re not upset by your Big Tough Man unpunctuated uncapitalised blather. We are laughing at you. That is what we do: we mock misogyny and misogynists. It isn’t difficult, because you’re all so extraordinarily stupid and give us so much material.

Dance, monkey, dance.

cloudiah
7 years ago

Citation needed.

The dog wasn’t killed, and there was no evidence that feminists had anything to do with the shooting. But other than that, you are 100% correct! About nothing at all.

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

Also, is zie seriously suggesting that AVFM has relevance outside the “oh yeah, you guys are fucking a-holes and hatemongers” from the SPLC? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

James
James
7 years ago

your so easy to bait

cloudiah
7 years ago

This site is as relevent as maco in public.

Can someone translate this?

James
James
7 years ago

Whats AVFM?

cloudiah
7 years ago

your so easy to bait

YOUR WHAT???!!?!?!!!

kittehserf
7 years ago

Well, it’s terribly relevant to Paulyboy’s bank account.

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

cloudiah – He better not be talking about kitties. Or any other animal for that matter. >:(

cloudiah
7 years ago

Whats AVFM?

WE DON’T ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, TOUGH GUY. YOU ANSWER OURS!

James
James
7 years ago

yawn

kittehserf
7 years ago

LOL I’m starting to think this poor desperate little fellow is another Drunk Sock Puppet. Any bets on which one? Could it be Pell? He seems to be working up to a meltdown already, in his semiliterate fashion.

cloudiah
7 years ago

YAWNIER. YAWNIEST!!!

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

kittehs – True that. Remind me, how influential is Roosh again in regards to the heteronormative gender essentialist relationship between the sexes?

cloudiah
7 years ago

Since I am superlatively sleepy, I will leave this sad little trollio to you all. Have fun.

James
James
7 years ago

oh, you mean, I so angry right now. “snickers”

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

kittehs – Whoever this sock is, I’m going to laugh my ass off. Fuck essays, I just have a conclusion to do anyways. Mocking’s more fun! ^_^