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Over on the Incels.is forums, a commenter in his twenties sadly laments that he will never experience the alleged endless bliss of teenage romance. Or, as he puts it, sounding just a bitty bit like a serial killer, the pure joy he would feel “owning … a young girl that is yours for the keeping.”
“You will never have the feeling of accomplishment of owning a girl exclusively for yourself,” TheLastandtheFirst informs his incel colleagues.
People cope about “teenage love” being underrated – drama, emotion, tension, and so on. “It’s not worth it”
But nothing, nothing will compensate the feeling of pride and joy that comes from being a teenager among your friendgroup and having a young girl that is yours for the keeping.
Think about it – a nice girl that many fall for, but you get her all for yourself. Her body whom nobody is allowed to touch or even see completely, is yours for your pleasure. You can experience her whenever you want, feel her, play with her, make love to her, whenever you want.
Dude, I think you’re thinking of a sex slave, not a girlfriend.
Her personality, her emotions, everything that she is, is all yours. While many other of your friends may struggle with teenage awkwardness, you have this wonderful thing in your life that allows you to release all that anxiety and tension sexually – all that worry, all that stress, all the uneasiness about the future, you growing older, and having to take on responsibility, all of that melts your heart, and brings you joy.
Now you’re talking about a stress ball, or one of these dudes.
Think of the serotonin that sets you up for the rest of your life that this gives you.
That’s not how serotonin works. That’s not how any of this works.
All the repressed sexual emotions you can get out off the bat with someone whom you can experience with, in their most fertile prime.
If you’re not a literal fertility doctor, you should pretty much never refer to anyone’s supposed fertility. Especially that of teenage girls.
The feeling that you have conquered something nobody else has come close to.
Incels are so obsessed with the terrifying possibility of being judged sexually they insist that they can only achieve perfect teenage love with virgins.
You will never experience that ever in your life.
Frankly, dude, based on what you’ve said so far, you should never experience that in your life.
Even if you manage to betabux and find a girl later in your life, she isn’t yours. She views you nothing more than a cold calculation. You won’t cheat, you are okay enough, your income is okay you can be shown off to her girlfriends with no problem. Worst, you are person no. 20, at least.
For what it’s worth, the median number of partners for women in their prime betabuxxing years (from 25 to 44) is 4.2. Not that having 20 previous partners is bad.
There is no real thrill, accomplishment, or meaning in finding some used up woman who settles for you because what accomplishment is that?
If you define every woman older than a teenager as “used up,” you’re not going to be happy with any adult romance.
Congratulations, you get to have kids now. Enjoy having 0 free time to enjoy anything, dealing with a nagging bitch of a wife who lost any semblance of attractiveness she once had, spending all your valuable free time trying to budget for kids, spend time with kids, etc.
I can’t believe that parents actually have to devote some of their prime video gaming time to their own kids.
Any fun or excitement you had in your life is now gone. Enjoy the suffering of living with someone who doesn’t love you and raising kids who take up your time, energy, and money, who will likely become incelly spergs themselves and either kill themselves, resent you, or shoot up a school.
Actually, they might be onto something here; I wouldn’t be surprised if the children of someone who believes all of this shit might go and shoot up a school.
I’m in my mid 20s and these thoughts makes me existentially numb and void to everything. I got extremely drunk and ate really unhealthy today, and I’m in my apartment alone, crying.
I don’t know about you, but I’m having a little trouble whipping up sympathy for a dude who thinks it’s a terrible injustice that he doesn’t own a virginal teenager sex slave.
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@Lollypop:
The main thing, I think, is that it is dirty, grubby, painful work which needs to be done. But that means that once we got cities and social ranks and it was possible for everybody to not have to do that, the people who could afford not to do it… didn’t. Which means that both a lot of the more well-off people get completely disconnected from exactly how much work is involved, and they since it’s work that ‘lower class’ people do it automatically gets dismissed as easy if even those people can manage to do it, especially as it doesn’t require formal training. Continue that along for a few centuries, add in slavery (acknowledged or unacknowledged), along with the whole capitalist thinking of trying to pay as little as possible to the workers (who in this case are often people with no real recourse to complain, as undocumented immigrants often pretty much qualify as ‘unacknowledged slavery’)…
So, basically, the situation of vitally important work being qualified as ‘lesser’ seems to be a toxic self-reinforcing mess of capitalism, entitlement, and the dehumanization of the people that the ‘important’ folks have never had to pay attention to.
Speaking as a knitter/spinner, you see this devaluing of work in the fiber arts. If I want to make my own yarn (as I often do), I need to buy the fiber, and either dye it or do some other kind of prep, then spin the singles, then ply the singles, then set the twist, then wait for it to dry. If I were to add up the cost of the fiber and the hours I spent working with it (at minimum wage), a hundred yards of yarn would probably cost a hundred bucks or more.
This is where non-crafters usually say, very earnestly, “You know, you can buy yarn at a big box store for a couple bucks.” Yes, I know. But I like making my own yarn at times, and I don’t make it for sale. Besides, the big box store yarn is usually made at factories not exactly known for fair labor practices.
It’s all given me a greater appreciation for textiles in general, and the more I craft, the more reluctant I am to buy cheap clothing. So my wardrobe is gradually shrinking, but individual items tend to last a long time.
@eibhear,
Apparently she was involved with Andrew Tate at one point, so I’d guess she doesn’t consider that kind of mindset to be an absolute deal breaker?
If the guy doesn’t want kids, why is he ranting about how fertile teenagers supposedly are?
Guys like this always think they’re irresistible without considering that a young teenage girl isn’t going to tell him “get lost, creep.” Also, what kind of incel fairy tale is he reading from because he’s oddly specific in his desires. The other problem is teenagers always grow into adults and they always grow out of the psychological cages these guys want to put them in.
Speaking of how prehistoric humans were far more complicated / egalitarian / skilled / etc. than modern people (want to) believe, here’s an interesting discovery about some of the ancient Göbekli Tepe temple complex in Turkey that’s been uncovered so far. (Warning: paywall):
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2020-04-28/ty-article/.premium/israeli-archaeologists-find-hidden-pattern-at-gobekli-tepe/0000017f-db13-d856-a37f-ffd3e7620000
Apparently the hunter-gatherers that built that site had a good enough grasp of geometry to incorporate an equilateral triangle between three of the circles found so far. (The archeologists pointed out that you could get a decent floor plan for something like this just by using a bunch of reeds cut to the same length and laying them out on the ground.)
It’s interesting to me just how counterintuitive that site seems to be so far. Like, it makes sense to think the progression was hunting-farming-growing settlements-villages-cities-monuments made of huge stones. But Göbekli Tepe is showing that the big stone monuments could be created centuries before humans discovered how to farm, let alone invent writing.
The site also indicates that social inequalities seem to have begun in this era, given that SOMEONE had to organize a pretty large group of people to build these temples, let alone feed them and house them for the construction period. And odds are that whoever that/those someone(s) were weren’t the ones doing the actual labor to build any part of the place.
On the other hand, the site does reveal at least one universal constant through the ages – men have always had castration anxiety, if the poses of the male statues found so far are any indication. Evidently almost all of them are posed with their hands covering their junk, like they need to protect that from something….
@ redsilkphoenix
Very few, if any, stone circles are actually circular. There are a few repeating designs though; so this isn’t just sloppy workmanship.
One theory is that people in the neolithic didn’t like the idea of Pi being transcendental; so they adjusted the ‘circles’ so that the perimeter was always an integer multiple of one of the axes. Usually 3.
ETA: The ancient greeks drowned a guy who suggested Pi was transcendental.
“I’m in my mid 20s and these thoughts makes me existentially numb and void to everything. “
Sad. Barely out of his teens and life is so bleak. That’s what happens when you spend too much time online, especially in the incelsphere.
These boys need to take a gap year or 3 after high school to stay at home (save on rent) work a job, even a minimum wage one, save up for a year and then go back packing through foreign countries. See the world, experience new cultures, learn, laugh, love life.
Their worldview is so small and bleak.