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The regulars on the Purple Pill Debate subreddit are playing at science fiction again. This time they’re imagining a glorious future world where men are no longer horny and women lose their “pussy privilege.”
“If men were less horny, what would happen?” asks LeagueSucksLol.
I have an interesting thought experiment. Let’s say that starting tomorrow, men lost their sexual desire. They will only have sex for procreation and instead pursue platonic friendships with other men and material pleasures such as good food, cars, etc. How would treatment of women change? I could see women facing less sexual harassment on one hand, but on the other hand there would be a lot less guys simping for women. OnlyFans would die out.
These guys really are obsessed with OnlyFans, huh? They envision a world-shattering scenario that would probably cause humanity to go extinct, and all they can think about is its effects on OnlyFans,
Anyway, yes, the part of OnlyFans that caters to male desire would collapse without male desire. No duh. But, like most of today’s Red Pill Redditors, LeagueSucksLol forgets there’s such a thing as female desire–and that women, not all of them, but a lot of them,would be quite frustrated if all men on the planet stopped putting out. They might even start paying for male nudes.
Now, some of the commenters grok that the end of male desire would probably lead to human extinction (I mean, men are necessary for procreation after all). Others think men would have no incentive to do any work without the motivating power of possible sex. “Society as we know it would collapse,” Crafty_Letter_1719 writes.”The pursuit of sex is at the heart of why most Men do anything at all.”
But a lot of the commenters are more optimistic; LeagueSucksLol’s brave new world is clearly one they’d love to live in, even if it meant losing their sex drive entirely.
Some predict that men, free of female distraction, would do wondrous things, inventing flying cars and building colonies on Mars. Thekingofthebeastie envisions
Year 32 of the sexual reduction in men The power of our sun, Sol, is beginning to be harnessed. World hunger and Malaria is nearly eradicated, and Africa is now the largest exporter of wheat. A unified Korea joins NATO. The average life expectancy is now 125, and cancer can now be cured.
But a larger number of commenters have a much more petty reason to support LeagueSucksLol’s utopian visions: they think a world free of male desire would serve all those stuck-up sex-denying ladies their comeuppance at last.
“Female influencers, a lot of actresess and singers, and of course pornstars would need to find a job,” writes self-described “Red Pill Man” MotleyCrew1989 in the top-rated comment in the thread..
Women would have to show talent and aptitude for everything,
Women would lose pussy and preety privilege, and being insufferable or an asshole would entail real consequences for them.
LeagueSucksLol replies::
That sounds a lot more fair and equitable for society. Why don’t we try to move in that direction? There should be life paths available for men that don’t involve sex or marriage. Men should stop simping.
Dude, based on your comments in this thread, I’m thinking you already follow a life path that doesn’t involve sex. Just saying. A lot of people do, by choice or otherwise,and many of them aren’t even assholes like you.
“We would treat women the same way we treat men,” asserts Asdf333aza,
and [they] would likely call that treatment abuse. All their cries of unjustice would fall on deaf ears and men essentially won’t care.
96tillinfinity_ imagines that
there would be SIGNIFICANTLY more broke women and homeless women as they would not be able to get by as much on having a pussy and good looks. The majority of women would have to put in work to find and keep a man
Dating would balance out and onlyfans models would have to suck dick for money but there would be less demand
Again with the OnlyFans.
Essentially, life would get harder for women as society would not give them as much special treatment.
A boy can dream, huh? At least if the boy is kind of a shithead.
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I can’t help but notice that every one of these chucklefucks is working from the (somewhat sociopathic) belief that sexual intercourse is the only factor that differentiates platonic relationships from romantic ones.
So weird and surprising that women don’t want to become involved with men who apparently do not comprehend the existence of love, right??
What? No.
Climate still exists, fuckheads. And exports are calculated by country, not by continent, but even if it were calculated by continent, North America and the Eurasian regions from Belarus down to parts of Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan would both be regions with much larger wheat exports.
As Africa’s population fell it could export more of a lot of things, but it wouldn’t ever (at least in any foreseeable future) be a better environment to grow wheat. Toss in that North America has a much smaller population than Africa and you end up with fewer people in NA consuming wheat with more wheat being grown and you still have NA as the top exporter.
Egypt has been one of the top IMporters of wheat for god knows how long.
This is just so monumentally stupid I can’t even stand it.
And don’t get me started about how NEITHER Korea borders the Atlantic Ocean.
You know, I can’t help but think there’s one bit of simple math they have skipped over here.
Less sex = less men, at least in the long run. (Less everybody, actually, but that, as has been noted, also escapes their attention, and isn’t the focus of it anyhow.)
Have to wonder what pointing that out would result in? Besides massive downvoting, that is…
They really seem angry that they have an attraction to women at all. They see an attractive woman walk by, they get a boner they can’t control, which makes it the woman’s fault.
Wouldn’t the pursuit of good food make them … fat? Or, maybe that’s only a bad thing with da wimminz.
Luckily, this is not a problem. At all. Never was.
Preety privilege? How do I get in on this?
I long for the day when being an insufferable asshole entails real consequences for guys like this one. Also, specifically this guy.
So since these chuckle-heads can’t have sex, nobody can?
Let’s do send them all to Mars. Now.
This is such a self tell by these guys. They act as if sex is the only motivator for all actions by men and women. They’ve so lost their humanity and empathy that they cannot even fathom a mindset as otherwise.
I am all in favor of sending these hateful morons to Mars. Without any women they can Darwin Award themselves to death.
Red Pillers can’t even get anything about the PRESENT right. No way in hell am I going to trust their predictions for the future.
I instantly thought of Robert Duvall in the original Handmaid’s Tale movie, impregnating Natasha Richardson like he’s filling out a tax form.
So those men believe that all men are driven mindless with lust and will do anything if there’s a promise of sex with a woman? Unlikely. In my experience, people who express pessimism about human nature almost always find an exemption for themselves and others like them. The quotes above suggest a view where only other men are enslaved by their desire for women, and the posters see themselves as liberated. The actual likely motivation, however, is that they feel enslaved themselves and they’re projecting it onto other men. Hey dudes, emotionally mature people don’t view their sexuality that way.
When reading this post, I remembered a Sheri S. Tepper novel: Gibbon’s Decline and Fall. At one point in the story, humanity stops being horny due to Mysterious Influences. It doesn’t really usher in a golden age – there are reports of some people deciding that they literally cannot live if they can’t have sex – but it does provide humanity with a bit of breathing room before Other Stuff Happens.
It’s been a while since I read it, but as I recall, Tepper focuses primarily on the social changes of what would happen if people weren’t always trying to compete in the sexual market: One thing I remember is that the super-gender-conforming fashion takes a hit, and the use of cosmetics declines. The novel has its flaws, but it’s an interesting read these days, especially in its depiction of a rise in fundamentalism.
There are ways to lessen or even do away with the sex drive but weirdly I don’t see any of these guys standing in line for it.
I guess this shows that these guys’ brains don’t really float in semen — they just sink and dissolve in tears…
And don’t get me started about how NEITHER Korea borders the Atlantic Ocean.
Hey, give these guys a break — they’re from Italy, on the Atlantic!
Just some things that stood out to me:
They’ll pursue platonic friendships with material pleasures, food, cars, and etc.? I had to read this sentence three times and it still makes no sense.
What are solar panels actually used for, then?? Someone needs to get some answers, stat!
Why would there be cis/straight m/f dating? Wouldn’t that just be platonic friendship? There very well might be more dating among women of all types, though. People adapt! I don’t know what the gay men would do, though. How would trans men be affected? WOULD WE STILL HAVE DRAG SHOWS???
I suppose they still assume that the childbearing people would take on all of the child rearing work and the sperm donors would carry on with their lives, you know, being friends with material pleasures and other men and such.
Le Guin did a related thought experiment in Left Hand of Darkness ( about a planet on which humans rarely feel sexual desire and seclude themselves from normal society when in procreative heat ) but she managed to be actually interesting and thought provoking about gender, and sexuality. Also the multiple non-horny cultures she described sound a lot more plausible than this load of bollocks, even with telepathy and alien gene tampering.
No new activity here at all in 12 hours? This site seems to be slowly dying. 🙁
They don’t think women actually work, do they?
As if every teacher, nurse, lawyer, clerk, truck driver and bookkeeper is going to suddenly be out of a job.
But I’m a crone, long past sex and pretty privileges. So I work and learn and teach and don’t sweat the gender of those who come to me to learn.
I thought the only reason men worked was to get sex and without that they would just do basic jobs and not support society and all women would die of uselessness
@Francis: Remember, consistency is not in their world view. What they believe changes from minute to minute, Reddit post to Reddit post. Their only central idea is “girls are terrible, and none of them will have sex with me”.
@Angela: Hello, sister crone! Yeah, if the menz are all hanging with their besties having fun, who’s going to cook, clean, manufacture their cars, etc. ? I don’t see any of these guys cleaning up after their parties.
I have an interesting thought experiment.
No, you really don’t.
Let’s say that starting tomorrow, men lost their sexual desire. They will only have sex for procreation…
No, if they lose their sexual desire, they won’t have sex at all.
Thus endeth the “thought” “experiment.”
I know plenty of working women, from pretty to below average looking, who are very talented and hard-working, very nice people. I also know from experience that non-sexual romantic relationships can and do work between sexes, and it is kinda insulting to essentially claim that asexual men aren’t productive or unmotived; also not true. If the only motivation men had truly were sex, then we would be far better off without them.
i’m a hard-working woman. i like to think i’m pretty too. i don’t know how talented i am, but i bring home the bacon for my wife and kid. on friday this was expressed by literally bringing home a pack of bacon.
if men lost all sexual desire then i don’t know how much would actually change about my work. maybe my boss would be less interested in going home on time to see his gf every day so maybe it’s not such a good thing.
I like that he felt it necessary to mention that we’ll harness the power of our sun, Sol and not that other sun we’d get if their fantasy came true.
Speaking of (and as a) working women, recently I heard a theory that the reason why upper management types hate work from home is because only women work in the home. Presumably “women” here means “homemakers.” I think that’s part of it, but I do think the primary reason is because a lot of managers don’t know how to manage a remote workforce.
Here’s why: I’m in a branch of the healthcare industry that has had people working from home for a couple decades now, and the tools out there exist. Everything from keystroke monitors to less intrusive (but still annoying) reporting programs. It does require a more overt level of trust between a manager and their team, but there have been other forces at work to encourage remote work – namely, real estate. If your HIM department moves all their workers off-site, that’s more room for storage (either paper documentation or servers for the e-documentation) in a secure location.