“Why are incels turning themselves into girls?” asks a headline on Unherd.com. A blog post on Pirate Wires posits a veritable “Incel-To-Transwoman Pipeline.” Finally, an article on Breitbart, illustrated with a stock photo of a mustachioed man wearing lipstick and nail polish, declares that “a look into a sizable online community reveals the shocking motive behind some men’s desire to identify as women: involuntary celibacy.”
The supposed trend under discussion? Something called “transmaxxing” — the belief, apparently birthed in the incel world, that lonely young men can dramatically improve their lives by “becoming” women. The idea has floated around incel message boards for years, with depressed young incels idly fantasizing that they could make their lives easier and get themselves laid in a hurry if they could magically transform themselves from undesirable losers into hot young Stacies. Now some steeped in incel ideology — who may or may not self-identify as incels — are trying to turn this fantasy into reality.
It’s not clear how much of a trend this really is, how many incels and incel–lites have gone beyond the fantasy to actually transition. But the number is more than zero. And those who have transitioned are making a lot of noise about it. The movement, such as it is, has its own Discord server with 1200 members and comes with its own 76-page manifesto, an exceedingly strange document that features undigested incel complaints alongside glowing “testimonials” on the joys of transitioning that sometimes border on the pornographic.
The central, er, logic of transmaxxing is frankly misogynistic, based on the notion, popular in incel and manosphere circles, that life is simply much easier for women. A list of “potential benefits from transitioning from male to female” that starts off the manifesto includes “being able to extract resources from males,” “people will treat you better if they think you are female,” and “cheaper car insurance.”
Much of the appeal is frankly fetishistic, with the manifesto writer emphasizing the supposed sexual benefits of transitioning–from multiple full-body orgasms to “sexual excitement from having a feminine body.” These benefits are said to accrue regardless of one’s sexuality; the manifesto teases the possibilities of “access to the transbian dating pool,” “being able to attract cis lesbians (if you become attractive enough),” and “being able to attract high-quality males for sex.”
Much of the manifesto reads like cut-and-pasted complaints from an incel message board. “Since females have the upper hand on the dating market, transitioning from male to female will usually improve your options when it comes to getting sex,” the manifesto explains. “Trans-women will benefit from the increasing female privilege.” The manifesto adopts some of the jargon of the Men’s Rights crowd as well, referring to “hypergamy” and “gynocentrism.”
There is, as is always the case with incels, an unhealthy dollop of self-loathing as well. Widespread transmaxxing would be good for society because fewer “incels trying to force females to waste themselves on losers is a good thing,” the manifesto asserts.
Transmaxxers seem to think you can convince yourself to be trans. “If you do not currently feel like living as a female, you might have to work on fixing that,” the manifesto suggests. “Identifying as male or being emotionally attached to a male body is bad for you if being male results in you living a bad life.” The manifesto suggests watching lots of anime with trans content or resorting to “sissy hypno porn” with the supposed power to convert cis straight men into gender-bending “sissies” or trans women. (Transmaxxing is all about trans women; trans men are denigrated or ignored.)
To transmaxxing’s critics on the right, the supposed trend is an example of confused and unhappy young men being seduced into the trans lifestyle. These young men, Breitbart warns, are now “resorting to self-destructive gender transition attempts” so they can “cease being a man altogether.” Apparently agreeing with the transmaxxers that men can hypnotize themselves into becoming women, Breitbart suggests that the existence of the trend “seemingly, if inadvertently, discredit[s] leftist arguments that gender dysphoria cannot be induced, successfully encouraged, or groomed into.”
Over on Mumsnet, an online forum popular with TERFs, some are suggesting that transmaxxing proves that some men are trying to “become women” for frivolous and self-aggrandizing reasons. Transmaxxing, to one commenter there, is
a phenomenon in which young men transition because they can, not because they have dysphoria but in some vague hope of having sex with sympathetic women.
It’s reminded me of Ollie London, who assumed that just because you can do something (in his case have surgery to make him look Korean) it’s okay. No ideological awareness, no ethics, just a why not? kind of attitude.
Another suggested that transitioning had become “just another lifestyle choice like buying a new car or trainers.”
Still another wrote:
Unattractive but entitled young men have every incentive to make themselves seem more interesting and more open to the sympathetic attention of young women who feel sorry for them by pretending to be “trans”.
Unfortunately, the broadly toxic transmaxxing ideology reinforces myths and stereotypes that might convince some to conclude just that. It seems to confirm so many half-baked right-wing and TERFy critiques of so-called transgenderism that it might as well have been invented for that purpose. But no, it appears to be real, another unfortunate product of incel ideology.
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Let’s see how long those “transmaxxers” last when they end up being on the wrong side of the firestorm of bigotry and prejudice directed against trans women on a regular basis, much of it from their own (soon to be former) compatriots.
Ugh just what we need… More ammo for TERFs and a bunch of utter creeps joining our dating pool. Fucking lovely.
TBQH though this was also a thing I was worried about re governments cracking down on incels – that conservatives would manage to get trans people investigated under the same umbrella. I am disgusted beyond words to see that some trans people want to bridge that gap for them.
“expresses personality fully. does not care about productivity.”
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I responded to your article
https://vintologi.com/threads/new-clickbait-articles-about-transmaxxing.1272/#post-7374
This is just another example of women losing their edge – you tried so hard to become men and outcompete them, you never considered the possibility that the chickens would come home to roost and men would take over your territory. You’ve made it illegal for men to excel in the ways in which men have done so since the days where people smacked each other with rocks for fun, so they’ve been forced to redirect their masculine energies and natural aptitude for mastery and genius into the one thing you haven’t illegalized; womanhood, specifically, the donning thereof. Your support for transwomen will dry up like a goldfish in the Sahara when legions of men put all their natural scientific energies into becoming the hottest gigapassoids you’ve ever seen, snatching up all the dick that you’ve been so fecklessly hoovering up with your vampy man-hungry ways. Men which formerly were in the grasp of homebodied broads who were practically born in their jogging pants will find themselves ineluctably drawn to dick-packing t-girls with biohacked tits and interests which go beyond the sort of basic bitchery that is so common in women with naturally occurring vaginas.
I’m on Youtube watching transmaxx videos as we type. Oh boy…
You know, it might not be a bad idea to have these woman-hating incels take estrogen. It might chill them out and make them kind.
I think this manifesto is a troll hoax though. From the few transwomen that I’ve known to talk about it, they are not having “full body orgasms”.
There are also other “tells” and red flags about it that make it seem fake. I wouldn’t be surprised if an anti-trans far-right wing Christian nationalist wrote it to “push the Overton window” and throw the Right into a panic to set access to gender affirming care back even further than they already have.
Um, I don’t seem to be able to report a comment but can David please ban “Seagull and Schmear”?
@bcb
The truth hurts. Be grateful that you were allowed to see it before the banning that inevitably befalls all that would dare speak it.
Anybody else hear that annoying whine? Have we got bugs again? Should I go with a citronella candle or just one of those sticky strips?
@LIAWN
Strongly disagree, the internet’s got all sorts of people on it, and you shouldn’t be surprised to see trancels writing cracked manifestos full of schizoid rambling. Could be the work of some greasy tranner from /tttt/ or whatever.
@Nequam
Classical conditioning leads me to feel a sense of anticipation whenever the citronella is busted out – I’m ready to crash the party and scandalize all the uptight, dishonest squares who prefer classy-sounding prevarications and dolled-up half-truths to the plainspoken, commonsensical facts that I toss like grapes into your wine glasses of deceit, staining your dainty costuming with the juice of your lies. I’m telling truths that this party is too gripped by false morality and made-up customs to appreciate – you’re practically gasping at me, eyes agog as I march about, pantsing the stuff-shirts and belching like a hippopotamus.
I don’t want to be with someone who believes incel things. No matter their gender or their sex. If they believe women must give sex to men, or that women have easier lives, or that feminism is BS, or any other shitty incel manosphere take, I don’t even want to be friends with them, let alone lovers. Why would I want to spend time with someone who thinks such atrocious things about trans men and women? Looks have nothing to do with it.
Interview with the Transmaxx Discord creator and manifesto writer here. He sounds… German? Very thick accent. I can barely understand him.
anyone remember that old troll Mark? seagull sounds just like him, lol.
ah well. he tried.
what in the goddamn??? this achieves levels of baffling misogyny heretofore unconsidered. also gross to know this is a thing; gotta get my raid and mace out.
why is it 4chin ruins everything, including the dating pool.
@Seagull and Schmear
Nah. You’re actually kind of boring. And it’s stuffed shirts.
Also, this just in from Webster’s:
Remind us again how “the truth hurts.”
In those linked posts and seagull down below another instance of trans fetisihization.
@Seagull and Schmear
That’s the funny thing Seagull and Schmear: nothing you stated even remotely resides in the star system as “truth”; all you spouted was not only outright falsehood assertions but I would go so far as to call your assertion; full blown delusions estranged from reality.
Seagull, it is okay for men to have sex with men if they want to, you know. They don’t have to turn themselves into people they deeply loathe and despise (trans women) before they can seek out men who want to have sex with them.
The website Scarleteen has loads of info about the range of human sexuality- scarleteen.com.
@Mish
He’s clearly been around here before under a different name, his current one is a reference to the 300 year old seagull-eating engineer from a few years back. I don’t recall if he was also Mark or not
So sorry, Schmear. Did they outlaw education in your neck of the woods? Or did they just outlaw the word outlaw?
Really curious because you constantly act as if you have the capacity to win an argument, any argument, and yet you have to fake up words like “illegalized” because you’re too brain damaged to use common words that everyone else knows.
I wonder if it’s easy or hard to convince yourself that you have the intellectual capacity to engage with commenters here. Neither reflects well on you.
@Crip Dyke
If “illegalize” is a fake word, why does spell check recognize it, and why is there in entry in Webster’s for it? A “fake word” is just a word that not enough people are using in order for it to be meaningful.
ETA: just noticed that you called me “brain damaged.” Might wanna dial down on the ableism a bit. Not that I care, personally, but it reflects poorly on you to disabuse yourself of your own ideological trapping’s supposed no-no’s when you want to take a cheap shot at me for using a word you’re ignorant of.
@Dalillama, that’s who I was thinking of, the seagull eater. I had it in my mind that he was also the Mark guy, but it’s entirely possible I’m just blurring them together.
I dont know if illegalise is a word but spell check thinks my surname is fake so i dont really trust it :p