Men’s Rights activists don’t often say outright that women shouldn’t be allowed to work. They just treat working women as ticking time bombs–“false” accusations waiting to happen.
In a recent thread on the Men’s Rights subreddit, someone called Ok_Text5955 tells a story of how he was “falsely accused” by a seemingly friendly coworker who said he had stalked and harassed her. Ultimately, he says, he quit his job and now reports that he’s “petrified of returning to work and having female colleagues.”
This uncorroborated story is all it takes to unleash a wave of opprobrium directed at working women and their alleged false accusey ways.
“Typical bad female behaviour,” declares youAreThirstyNow. “Stay as away and be as impersonal as you can be from them because they will only bring trouble.”
“Yup,” agrees SunosUnix. “Women indeed do try and fish for paychecks by fucking over men. And remorselessly so.”
“That is the way women monetize their sexual experience,” adds Ciobanesc. “When they can’t monetize you anymore, they’ll hate your guts and hate you.”
Hate your guts, and hate you, at the same time!
Some suggest that the only solution is to avoid women at work if at all possible. According to hottake_toothache:
I advise keeping your relationships with women at work very perfunctory. Just communicate as needed, about the work.
Society allows them to be comfortable, loose and casual, knowing that the world inherently sees them in a positive light. But, for us men, it is the opposite.
“One thing I have learned is to never be alone with a woman at work no matter how much you trust her,” bruh_bro_dude advises. “Keep hanging out around men bro, they’re better friends.”
“Rule of thumb,” DaBigVikin writes.
Don’t interact with a lass unless you have a trusted work mate nearby. If you don’t have anyone keep your head down and keep going, focus on the task.
When avoidance is impossible, use a secret recording device to document every interaction with these sneaky monsters. “Covert cellphone video is your friend,” reports Stilltryin4gold.
It’s just too bad that there have to be women at work at all, according to reading_alot:
Unfortunately there is some mandatory minimal quota for the number or percentage of females in the workplace.
Boy, it sucks that the men in charge can’t discriminate against women by categorically refusing to hire them!
Such is the world in which the Men’s Rights activist lives.
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@ Nequam
You know, I don’t know that expression, but gives off a certain mental image that may or may not be correct…
As for the Men’s Rights premise there… please, I have said many things that could be construed as sexual harassment, even blatantly so, but nobody ever talked to HR about me. Why? Maybe because despite my myriad social issues, I am not, to quote a wise man: A complete A-hole.
In my previous job, when I said something flirty to the barely legal women half my age, everyone knew I was joking. The guy who got fired for sexual harassment after chasing one of them for months and creeping several of the others out was not joking. There is a difference and it is hard for me to fathom how I can have better social skills than neurotypical people who attended public school.
It doesn’t seem that difficult. Just don’t be sleezy or creepy. Don’t try to get into the pants of every thin woman 18-20 in your field of vision while calling them hoes and bitches behind their backs on the assumption that nobody can tell what you are doing or thinking. The attitude leaks through. Honest, it does
Men’s Rights Activists: Women aren’t discriminated against, we are.
Also Men’s Rights Activists: Women shouldn’t be allowed in the workplace as they will falsely accuse you of discriminating against them. We are so oppressed because we can’t oppress women.
Because of course they do
@ .45
As the old punchline goes…
“But doesn’t that hurt.”
“Only if you get your thumbs in the way.”
There’s a potentially useful rule of thumb I’ve run across somewhere: is this a remark you’d feel comfortable hearing from a larger man in prison?
Quick and easy $$$! Just accuse some guy of sexual harassment, and watch the slurs, whore-calling, crazy-calling, and slut-shaming roll right in as if by magic!
First off, by Ok_Text5955’s own story, he quit. He was neither fired nor disciplined by HR, so it doesn’t sound like this woman did file any sort of false accusations against him. If so, then what’s his fear all about? He wasn’t in danger. Second off, I could be wrong, but the way he worded his opening paragraph suggests to me that he probably did repeatedly hit on her.
Somehow 90% of us manage to work in the same room with women, and it works out fine. I think the problem might be on your end, dude.
When I was younger, I wished men would only communicate about the work. The non-creepers had no trouble sticking to work-related conversation. The creeps seem not to like that rule of thumb.
Finally! Some excellent advice from MRAs for MRAs:
MRAs, I couldn’t be more enthusiastic about you keeping your distance from all women at all times.
Today’s mammoth seems to be rolling his/her/their eyes, as well they should.
@Nequam: We need t-shirts with that on.
@.45: You’re not an asshole and managed to acquire common sense.
@FM Ox: That is literally the only way these assholes will get a slight glimmer.
@Dave: He might have “quit” as opposed to being fired and having the company and the woman (who I am 99.99% sure he did harass) do a legal action, and the company billed him for the lawyers. Question of “pushed or jumped” applies, but doesn’t matter.
@Kat: I wish all these guys would GTOW. Or at least stick to what you quoted.
Believe me, boys, in women’s minds:
rude/curt > kind of a jerk > an asshole > creepy > a predator
Utterly irrelevant to anything being discussed, but what in holy hell is wrong with the two people in the picture above? Is it me or is there something very, very wrong with their faces?
@ not edward
OT: I’m getting sick of monopolistic capitalists and their fucking lies, even (or especially) the ones that don’t even make a lick of sense from a purely selfish dollars-uber-alles standpoint.
For the past several days CTV, which for you non-Canucks out there is owned by the company that basically owns all Canadian telecommunications lock, stock, and barrel, has been aggressively promoting tonight’s episode of “The Good Doctor” on every single TV channel they own (which is to say, almost every single TV channel, full stop). They told the various TV listing services and program guide providers the same thing, as a bunch of CTV stations (and one other) are listed as airing it right now.
When I try to tune in any of these (including the one non-CTV station, but it’s undoubtedly owned by Bell just like everything else in this entire fucking country that isn’t owned by Rogers) I get a Big Bang rerun instead.
Dear CTV/Bell Media/Canada, Inc.: I demand an explanation for this blatant bait-and-switch, and I demand an apology. I will not tolerate being lied to by anyone, and I especially will not tolerate overt false advertising. I don’t care how fucking big your fucking monopoly is. What you did is morally reprehensible and I’m calling you the fuck out. I’m also warning you: the bill comes due. Sooner or later, when the people get sufficiently fed up, the bill comes due. Ask the Czars, or Marie Antoinette, or Kaiser Wilhelm III.
Furthermore, whether or not I receive either, I will be putting on an eyepatch and sailing straight to ye olde torrente syte in an hour or two. Hardy har har, mateys!
Don’t look so shocked. You brought this on yourself. I don’t know what your bean counters were “thinking”, if I may use that word loosely. There is no scenario I can think of where you turn a dime of ill-gotten profit from this bizarre escapade. As near as I can figure it, you’ve become so huge and lazy a too-big-to-fail monopolist that you no longer rein in your executives from doing stupid shit purely for the lulz. My guess is whoever signed off on tonight’s big bait-and-switch production was hired directly off 4chan and that his three primary job qualifications were a rich private-school background, a Y chromosome, and white skin.
Next time, if you want to rent out my eyeballs to some car company whose products I’ll never be able to afford anyway, you’ll need to deliver on your fucking promises instead of spending a fucking week brazenly lying right to my fucking face, you fucking assholes.
That will be all for now. See you at your trial after the revolution! I’ll be the guy wearing an eyepatch in the witness seats giving a fist-pump when they announce the guilty verdict.
The merger of MRA, MGTOW and incel. I’m not surprised. Lots of white nationalists in there too.
@ GSS ex-noob
Oh, I’m not too sure about that last part, or that first part, but I thank you for the compliment. ;D
@ Alan Robertshaw
I vaguely remember hearing something with that punchline, but don’t remember the joke. I shall attempt a search on the Almighty Interwebs
Ok, found the joke to be exactly what it sounded like, and also found out I have mild trigger thumb. Hmmmm…
I suspsect the kinds of guys making these kinds of arguments about women being in the work force; are frankly coming across like they are telling on themselves. Bascially their claims of women making “false accusations” against them: really comes across with the implication that they are in fact planning to or worrying about in engaging in behavior that would warrent reports to HR of sexual harassment and said guys fearing the consequences of their own actions when women come forth to report their misconduct
I’m married, but we have two cats. However the cats are both female and, to the best of my knowledge, unmarried. Also they enjoy catnip recreationally. Neither one has ever worked as a librarian.
Sorry, meant to post that on the other thread.