A new theory from the incels:
And you’re telling me that you guys can’t get dates? Can’t imagine why that is.
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Counterpoint: Queen Elizabeth II, the longest-reigning monarch of Great Britain.
Hold on — Sanna Marin has become embroiled in a scandal? When did this happen?
Of course, there is no shortage of men in high positions who have proved themselves incompetent, become mired in scandal, or both. Nixon and Trump immediately spring to mind, and this chucklefuck probably voted for at least one of those.
Yeah, well, incels are a toxic species. As far as jobs (tries to refrain from making “in mom’s basement yelling for Hot Pockets” joke and fails) they aren’t quality employees.
Plus women are still paid less overall, even for the same jobs, and much less likely to be bosses with actual power. Still a lot of (often fat balding white) guys running things and harassing women in the workplace out there.
I guess this guy doesn’t know women have always worked, often in very physical jobs (milkmaids carrying full buckets, women tending gardens and livestock, charladies and maids, laundry women and the gatherers who provided most of the calories for our distant ancestors). And what about the secretaries (now female; the previous male ones made more money)? How’s an office supposed to run without them?
Plus, all those women come home from the office and DO all the kitchen and cleaning and childcare work.
Like the old proverb says “Man’s work is from sun to sun; woman’s work is never done.”
Dude doesn’t sound like much of a CEO.
We skinned the mammoth. We butchered the mammoth. We smoked the mammoth into jerky and simmered it for broth. We slivered the mammoth’s bones into needles, which we used to sew the mammoth’s hide into clothing, carrier bags, and canoes (and to stitch up your mammoth-hunting boo-boos.) We gathered and cultivated the seeds, fruits, and vegetables that kept you fed between mammoths.
(This admittedly comes from an equally simplistic theme-park notion of the Naturally and/or Divinely Ordained Mars/Venus division of labor, but I hope my point stands.)
@D.R
In fairness Lizzie did nothing to achieve that position except be born and avoid having a brother. She isn’t really a politician and basically is in the role till she does not matter what people think of her.
Sure Liz Truss was terrible but she was no more unqualified and incompetent than Johnson. People just thought he was a smart person acting like a buffoon rather than just being a buffoon.
Weird to compare Liz Truss and Sanna Marin these are two very different politicians. Liz Truss was probably the worst British PM presiding over one of the worst period of UK’s politics post WWII. Sanna Marin was highly praised for her leadership at the beginning of the pandemic allowing Finland to get off pretty well in the first two years of the pandemic as well as presiding over Finland’s entry into NATO. Finland is doing generally pretty well. The only scandals that have sticked to her so far were because of how she spends her free time (dancing with her friends) and a picture of her that was deemed a bit too osé for the taste of some conservative men who liked it too much which is kinda of funny considering Kekkonen was famous for basically doing most of his job naked in a spa.
@Ooglyboggles: Forget CEO, I wouldn’t trust this dude to change the filter in the break room coffee machine.
I Googled what is an “invasive species” and my first result is about a Cane Toad.
TIL that the cane toads are toxic to humans. There’s a lot of cane toads in Australia. I might have to protect my pets from the toad.
You poor incel. What awful, rotten luck you’ve had, being born into a clown world. I can tell you’re totally ready to take on all the responsibilities of a traditional husband with a traditional, stay-at-home wife, which will surely involve you working many, many hours five or more days a week at a job that pays well.
The user stats on this guy’s post are terrifying. He joined on August 14th of this year, and in the 83-day span between that day and this post he spent 31 days on the forum, making 3548 posts.
That’s an average of over 9 hours and 42 posts on the incel forum per day, every day, for the last three months. That’s basically his life there. Just absorbing and spewing hate.
“They…must be returned to the place that they thrive in, a kitchen.”
How* is the work that takes place in a kitchen somehow not work? I mean, you slice, you broil, you steam, you fricassee, et cetera; and afterwards, you wash and wash and wash and wash and wash, and then spend half the night picking up what’s left of the mess. How is that not work? Please let me know. (Signed, a Good Cook.)
*for the fourteen millionth billionth time
“The user stats on this guy’s post are terrifying. He joined on August 14th of this year, and in the 83-day span between that day and this post he spent 31 days on the forum, making 3548 posts.”
Are you sure he’s not working from a cubicle in St. Petersburg instead of a basement in Dubuque? Just curious.
All that takes is good health and for their parent to die early.
@DR: Other counterpoint: Queen Elizabeth I. She was damn political.
@FM Ox: Standing ovation. We also got all the flesh off the mammoth bones so they could be used for everything from needles to supports for a semi-permanent home. While we were out gathering and planting the food that kept you alive, we also gathered grasses to spin by hand to turn into thread, yarn, and twine for sewing up your clothes, your boats, and your boo-boos. Oh, and we made the shoes that kept your feet from freezing off while you were out hunting.
@Chris: Cleaning and making coffee are women’s work! Of course he wouldn’t do it.
Allandrel:
Yet, the one-star “daydreamer” label next to his username seems to suggest he’s still counted as a relative newcomer to the community, a low-level cult member.
epronovost:
It’s still unclear to me whether Truss’s faceplant was a result of technical incompetence or some sort of ideological overreach. Though incels would probably see any criticism of a female politician as based on incompetence rather than ideology, without even checking how they personally align with said female politician’s ideology.
Yeah… Unfortunately, we too gave up on that regard since late 2021/early 2022, as it turned out there’s no easy way to keep covid at bay, and almost nobody wants to continue doing it the hard way. We’re now slowly catching up with the rest of Europe on accumulative covid death rate.
Ironically, many of Finland’s older social democratic politicians would’ve been ideologically reluctant to advance the Nato discussion at a rapid pace once the security environment changed and the public opinion swung accordingly. This could’ve been devastating for the governing leftist alliance (not so much for the Nato accession itself, which would be happening sooner or later anyway) and a godsend for conservative opposition. In particular, the conservative coalition party has tried to remind everyone that they supported Nato before it was cool. However, now Marin has neatly robbed them a historical opportunity to grandstand about supporting Nato.
Certainly, considering the circumstances.
Russian-funded troll accounts try to kick up something like this every other week, but the “partygate” thing gained unusual traction in mainstream media and was picked up by international media. As a result, many people who haven’t otherwise heard anything about Marin might get the impression that she is (fairly or not) a highly criticized politician. In reality, there hasn’t been any credible threat to her position, and likely won’t be until the election next spring.
I get the double standard, though I don’t think posing topless (or engaging in sauna diplomacy, if that’s what is meant here) was/is a major part of Urho Kekkonen’s brand here in Finland. More realistically, one could say that getting drunk a lot (IIRC, including sometimes at work) was a part of his brand.
@Lumipuna
Why not both?
Not entirely joking, either; from over here in Canada it looked a lot like a combination of being an ideological true believer and not competent enough to realize just how badly this could land. For contrast, Thatcher was highly ideological, but also smart enough to play it slowly and into existing prejudices so she could get away with what she was doing. Truss… was not that smart, but seemed to think she could make it all work by sheer force of (largely non-existent) personality.
@Jenora: That’s the impression I got here in Soviet California too. The cabbage livestream made me laugh, as did her term lasting a shorter time than the guy who already had advanced TB when he took office. And the black humour about wondering if she was so toxic that she accidentally killed the Queen.
@Cane Toad
Cane toads secrete a poison through their skin. It can cause hallucinations. I don’t know how much truth there is to it, but years back there was an urban legend about people either licking the toads or boiling them to make tea or something in order to get high. I wouldn’t recommend trying it.
I mean, really…
Thatcher was capable of making sure money would be funneled to her business friends without obviously sacrificing (short term) stability to do it. Truss was more blatantly horrible, but less competent at it, which meant the damage she could do to things outside of her own reputation was more self-limiting.
Of course, Truss probably would never have got to the position she was in if Thatcher hadn’t mainstreamed horribleness and long-term undermining of society the way that she had.
May I recommend Cane Toads: An Unnatural History? Fascinating overview of the social and environmental effects of introducing a species without thinking about it as thoroughly as you should.
Plus if there are any other fans of Tim Finn in the house….
@John Lucas
Licking a cane toad just makes you sick, but a preparation of dried cane toad poison is a traditional entheogen in some parts of the toad’s native range. A different preparation is traditionally used to make poison arrows in other areas.
Liz Truss and Sanna Marin are incompatible. Sanna Marin has been elected, Truss was foisted on us because the elderly, racist Tory grassroots party membership couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Rishi Sunak. She was a deluded laissez-faire ideologue brought down by Kwasi Kwarteng’s disastrous mini-budget which almost crashed the entire British economy. Truss’s legacy is as a pub quiz question.