Sometimes the best laid plans (for getting laid) go astray.
When one of the commenters — this was posted on Incels.is but you probably guessed that already — helpfully suggests that “[m]aybe you need to pay extra because you’re a n***er?” our boy replies:
I’m white and It works in porn so I don’t see why it wouldn’t work in real life. a girl would have to be a dumb bitch to turn down 300 dollars for a quick fuck and a lot of guys in porn are subhumans with big dicks and ugly fucking faces and bellies.
Uh, dude, porn is not real life. Those videos where someone goes up to a woman on the street and offers her cash for sex and she agrees? Those are set up in advance. And she’s likely getting a lot more than $300.
When someone else suggests that our boy “just go to a hooker,” he complains that
Hookers feel disgusting tbh I cant imagine someone cummed inside of her just a few minutes before me. I know other girls aren’t that better but still
I can’t imagine a sex worker would be any more thrilled about the prospect of having sex with you for $300 than you claim to be with her. You’re the kind of guy who gets screened out because you don’t seem safe.
In another comment he whines that
Thanks to online dating and dating apps, pussy has gone up dramatically in value. even some loose stinky pussy from a fat sub-4.
Gosh, I can’t imagine why women aren’t lined up around the block waiting to have sex with you, even without the $300 as an added bonus. I would suggest you put a bag over your head but really, you’d need to put a bag over your entire personality.
I can’t imagine anyone accepting $300 — or $3000 — just to sit alone in a room with you for ten minutes without sex. You kind of make my skin crawl.
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What exactly the flipping f¥€k went wrong with “guys” like him? Or any of his incel pals?
I’m a guy. I’m not a “chad” or “brad” or whatever his crowd calls the alpha male studly successful arrogant varsity type. I’m not a sniveling lapdog either, or any of the other labels they apply to guys who would rebuke their cowardly rhetoric.
Everyone (except maybe a few members of the first group) gets frustrated time and again when they don’t get what they want in copious quantities all the time without lifting a finger. But that doesn’t justify dehumanizing your fellow humans, turning them into commodities so you can complain to the manager when they don’t want to be bought, or worse lumping them all together, making up a bunch of fabricated bad qualities, and assuming they all have these qualities so you can hate them.
I’m straight and I have a sex drive. I’ve been around plenty long enough to know that feeding that most basic of biological involuntary urges without acknowledging all of the higher functioning complex aspects of interacting with another human carries with it is an empty pursuit that will never give you any real satisfaction (should you ever actually manage to make it happen). You might think you want sex, but you really want another human to validate you, admire you, desire you, think you’re cool, and give you attention. Sex is just one way humans demonstrate those emotions. But just like anything else that siht ain’t free. It also isn’t convertible to currency. You have to give it in return to get it. Can’t counterfeit it either.
Once you separate the physical act of sex from all the other stuff, then without realizing it, you’ve removed the magic. Sorry to break it to you…
What you’re really looking for when you scrape up your pathetic little pile of cash and think you can hand it to a woman-bot and it should give you sex, is a sex toy. You don’t want to have sex with someone, you want to masturbate. Sex toys range from $30 at Target (I know right? I had no idea until the other day, happened to see them in the pharm section near the contacts liquid) up to a grand or more. The spendy ones must be effective I guess, cause obviously ppl buy them, but they don’t resemble a real person, not even close. By that logic you should expect to pay about what it costs to buy a top-line sportscar, or a decent house. But even then, like when the rich get themselves a trophy wife, you’re just jerking off. You’re masturbating.
So take your 3 c-notes down to a sex shop and get yourself a nice toy. It’ll last longer than a one-off too. When that gets boring, cmon out into the real world and join us humans. Just don’t expect anything for free.
Spoiled whiny little brat. Mess with women and I’ll find you and you won’t like what I’m going to do.
My apologies to the ladies present for that bit of unpleasantness. I’m just sick of dipsticks like him treating you with less respect than you deserve.
All the best, W
@ Vicky P
As you may have seen, the Fifth Circuit says Texans can post what they want on social media, and site owners can’t stop them.
So I look forward to your totally unfiltered views on crochet. You no longer have to hold yourself back!
In my head the world of crafting is like gangsterville.
“I think someone was trying to send a message.”
“Well yeah, someone has literally needlepointed ‘I am a snitch’ into his chest.”
@Rusalka
It is more complicated.
@Victorious Parasol
Yes, that friend told you about some guy who talked with many people at parties because he was nice totally proves your point.
I knew some guy (not only from stories, but also met him several times and my colleague knew him better) who enjoyed destroing property while drunk, drunk driving, physical fights, frequently lied, used drugs etc. He was the only man I ever knew who had real sexual success with women.
Is this argumentation convincing to you?
@Alan
You forget that many of us are bi-craftual if not polycraftual. I can only crochet well enough to do a single-chain bind-off on a knitted object, but I can spin yarn that would not totally shame my ancestors, I can dye animal fibers (because to dye plant fibers involves potentially toxic chemicals) and I can do a decent spot of weaving.
I’m pretty sure this gives me great power in the event of civilization collapse.
Though it’s funny you should say this today, because yesterday I posted about a recent project of mine on social media, and it’s gone incredibly viral to the point that other crafters are talking about how they’ve been inspired to do their own projects of this type. In the crafting world, I am now a demi-god. (Godhood requires inventing a new technique.)
Why do I have the feeling Lard would have zero interest in a “looks match”?
@Lard
Not in the slightest, because for one thing you’re comparing Malus domestica to Citrus sinensis. My example was a demonstration of how self-improvement doesn’t require a herculean effort. Your example is a rehash of “all women want bad boys,” which is a tired trope, even if some women do prefer bad boys.
I can’t help but notice how you’ve avoided engaging in the idea that self-improvement can be as simple as seeing other people as people, which is something all genders can strive for, even if sex isn’t the end goal. I suspect that’s because you’ve convinced yourself that interpersonal activity is only worthwhile if you get an orgasm out of it. If this is true, I’d encourage you (again) to stop seeing sex as the Sangreal of your existence.
@Victorious Parasol
I agree with you mostly, but I don’t say that all women wants “bad guys”, only that being psychopathic and agressive is correlated with sexual success for man.
Also I don’t think 2 last sentences apply to me.
Self-improvement meant as being nicer to others seems good, but “self-improvement” usually mean doing something for your benefit and advantage.
@Tabby
What is that? Maybe I would have?
@ Vicky P
Godhood requires inventing a new technique
During the lockdown I was able to do an online IP Law course at an Indian Uni. The Professor told us of how in t’olden days, there was a city in India where, if you came up with some new tasty food dish, you had the exclusive right to cook it for a year and a day.
(I now cite Indian food as the best justification for copyright laws)
But let us know when you achieve full Apotheosis and your preferred method of worship.
I like the idea of just leaving votive offerings of small balls of yarn.
@Alan
I will also accept offerings of fiber. I’ve spun with various types of wool as well as bamboo and synthetic fibers, and I adore mixing in recycled bits of sari fibers.
@ Vicky P
There’s a shop in my home town that sold, inter alia, saris.
But some of them were 20 grand. This was at a time when I was looking at a house for £17K.
https://www.bombaystores.co.uk
The store was huge though. It was more a mini trading estate with loads of buildings. They sold everything. Like they had a huge musical instrument section. They also had pots so big I could get in them and put the lid on.
“Please stop doing that Sir”
It’s also where I got my nose pierced. I said I wanted a really subtle small sleeper in anticipation of putting a ring in there.
They shot me up with the biggest brightest most bejewelled stud imaginable and then made jokes about my dowry price.
ETA: They also do fabrics and crafting stuff online now it seems.
https://www.bombaystoresfabrics.co.uk
@lard, I think if you were to examine your conclusions drawn from your experience with the tail-brain who seems to get the most girls, and if you were to study guys like him, you might realize that he may be achieving this “success” for the same reasons that he gets in fights, wrecks property, talks smack and whatever else he does. Namely, that it sounds like he doesn’t respect anyone, and as such probably doesn’t have issues with “getting women” with a manipulative approach. What I mean by that is instead of being genuine, he probably has developed a keen sense of what to say and how to act that makes him look attractive, and makes women want to engage. This is an act tho, and is misleading. If it expands to include outright lies, and negative behavior such as intimidation or other more overt kinds of manipulation during his process, then it’s getting disgusting, possibly illegal, and puts it on par with his other behaviors. Most of us don’t do that kind of thing, because we have self respect, we respect others, and we have some sense of morality. Also it doesn’t take very much of the grey matter to realize that once applied, this approach eliminates chances for a lasting relationship, at least a healthy one anyway.
After all, why do you think this guy keeps having to go out and “get” new women? If what he does works then you’d suppose he would at least be able to make a relationship stick around for a little while, no?
@Big Titty Demon:
Well, if a union did a lot of good work advocating for sex work protections and regulations and driving out the slavers, it would make things better for everyone in general, so the independents would benefit from that indirectly. But because they don’t have bosses to negotiate with, it wouldn’t increase their wages or work conditions in a clear and obvious way – maybe some of them might see more clients with the slavers gone or it might change the local economics so that they can charge a bit higher prices, and that might allow them to improve their own work conditions somewhat… but in the end they wouldn’t benefit nearly as much as brothel workers.
What I think would be more useful for independents would be a robust online networking system for them – make it even easier to share information about known clients, who’s good, who’s bad, who’s potentially dangerous, even without necessarily being able to pinpoint their personal identity exactly (privacy for clients should still be a thing to some extent). Also to help each other out in other ways, if needed. There was some of that going on back in the ’00s, but it wasn’t really organized or interconnected enough to be nearly as useful as it could have been.
…Oh, and universal health care. Sex workers would benefit from that even more than the average person, putting them at less risk for STIs and easier access to treatment if they do get them. Which also means less risk for clients. Also if someone gets injured from a dangerous client at least it would be less devastating. Seriously, why does the US not have this decades ago. Sigh.
@Alan
I can’t say I’m surprised at hearing the cost of some of those saris. The scraps I’ve worked with have ranged from “pretty” to “absolutely lovely.” Blending fibers can be very meditative. Video demonstration here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FenT3pshrU
The demonstrator is right on when she describes it as “painting.” There is definitely an artistic feel to it, and you can really get fun and creative with what you add. It’s been a while since I could do this, and I miss it.
@ Vicky P
That was fascinating; and strangely hypnotic.
You sent me down a rabbit hole however. That gave me all sorts of ideas. Which perhaps unsurprisingly people have already had.
https://shuttlesandneedles.com/blogs/news-1/art-on-blending-board
@ Vicky P, Alan,
At the risk of continuing a decidedly OT discussion, I lived in New York many years ago, in an area of Manhattan called Curry Hill. Close to Murray Hill, but a couple blocks of Indian groceries, restaurants, and the like. The sari discussion brought back memories, as directly across from my apartment and visible from my window, was the Om Sari Palace. Always loved the rich colors and irridescents. But then one of my smarta$$ friends said, “Om sari, we have run out of saris”, which cemented it in my memory for good 🙂
If sexual success is defined as committing rape and/or murder, then sure I agree with you. But outside of abuse, psychopathic behavior does not get you very far. That’s why it turns out that most of these pickup artists practice date rape, often of children. Without the alcohol and coercion, all the supposed game they have is empty rhetoric.
I don’t know if it’s the algorithm or just one of those nice bits of synchronicity, but this just popped up.
https://twitter.com/womensart1/status/1571516695814049797
@ middleman
More synchronicity (this does not help my tendencies to solipsism) but at the V Festival I mentioned earlier, as we were passing the food stalls, a Scouse friend asked me “Hey Al, do you fancy some falafel for a laugh Al?”
@MiddleMan
Thank you for pointing out that Lard’s example of “sexual success” doesn’t seem all that successful. I kept thinking that it sounded like an awfully limited and limiting view of “sexual success” (which seems to be a pseudo-high-falutin’ way of saying “getting laid”) and not something to imitate. Plus Lard seems to assume the majority of men would agree with him, which is an insult to all the good men I’ve known. It’s the sort of attitude that makes Mr. Parasol wear his bewildered expression.
“Om sari, we have run out of saris” made me laugh. Thank you!
@Dave
Thank you for pointing out the abusive nature of what Lard has described.
@Alan
Gorgeous textile art there. Y’know, when you joked about “gangsterville,” it’s not so much the different crafts that fight as it is the practicioners of the same craft that can get into serious family-level, remember-what-they-said-about-Our-Sharon degree of fighting. Take knitters. English or Continental? Also known as “thrower vs picker.” DPNs or magic loop or circs? Straights or interchangeables? Intarsia or fair isle? Chart or written?
But like the British coming together against the French, let somebody sneer at knitting as “what grannies do,” and we close ranks, like when the Econcrew tech bros decided they could make money fast by buying the knitting.com domain.
@ Vicky P
I think I’ve mentioned before I have friends in special forces, and quite a few of them are really good at knitting.
Apparently it’s something you can do on long boring stake-outs, and it’s a job where you can never have enough balaclavas and mittens.
And speaking of mittens… for those who haven’t seen Detective Mittens and her rather problematic approach to policing, you may be in for a treat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVx2uCcDXX0
it’s quite possible I first saw a reference to Detective Mittens on this site, if so then thanks to the person who first mentioned her!
re special feature of military mittens – that must be for getting one’s (trigger) finger out?
@Alan
That reminds me of a new glove design I saw a few years back – the designer incorporated some conductive fiber into the index finger of a glove so that you could wear them and still work your smartphone without having to take your glove off.