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The Daily Wire can’t stop, won’t stop, probably should stop deadnaming Elliot Page

Elliot Page and his controversial abs.

Actor Elliot Page doesn’t have to say anything, or do anything other than simply exist in order to send the hamsters in the brains of transphobes skittering. Consider the case of Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire, which keeps pooping out new stories on the subject of Mr. Page not tied to any news hook but rather to some obsession they’ve developed with deadnaming him.

Certainly they have been inspired by the recent controversy surrounding Canadian fusspot reactionary Jordan Peterson, whom the Daily Wire just signed up as a contributor of little video rants to their new venture DailyWire+.

Peterson recently got himself kicked off of Twitter for a nasty tweet that deadnamed the actor — and JPete has been milking his “free speech” martyrdom as best he can, starting off his new series of DailyWire+ videos with a petulant rant about Page and pronouns. Then in a podcast interview he let slip that if Page hadn’t shown off his cut abs in photos that were all over the internet, JPete wouldn’t have even tweeted his original tweet. (In his mind, it’s all about “recruitment.” Seeing Page looking good might lead some poor confused girls to decide that they were trans.) To people who aren’t raging transphobes, this whole thing makes Peterson look like the weirdo idiot he is.

But apparently not to the editors of the Daily Wire, who look at Peterson’s latest spin in the spotlight and see clicks, a lot of clicks. If deadnaming Elliot Page generates traffic, well, why not generate as much traffic as possible, seems to be the logic here.

So the site has been putting up posts about Page that seem to be little more than excuses to deadname him.

Daily Wire podcaster Michael Knowles wrote a long post reflecting on the idea of deadnames and how gosh darn confusing they can be. (In what follows, I’ve replaced the deadname with the word “deadname.”) He noted that the website for the Oscars still lists Page’s original name in the list of nominees for “best actress” in 2008.

Essentially, Knowles seems to imply that because Page once got a nomination for best actress the very notion of transgenderism is a fraud.

Knowles also offered what I suppose he thinks is a clever “argument” against the very idea of a deadname — the fact that Page is actually still alive.

Today [Deadname] goes by “Elliot” and has even legally changed her name. But “[Deadname]” isn’t Miss Page’s “deadname.” Even if one were to accept the dubious premise that men have a right to call themselves “Sally” and ladies a right to call themselves “Hank,” [Deadname] isn’t dead. She is very much alive and has called herself “[Deadname]” for 33 of her 35 years.

Knowles managed to misgender Page not once, not twice, but eight times in four sentences. I’m sure he must be very proud of himself.

He concludes his rambling diatribe with this bit of nonsense:

Either [Deadname] Page is [Deadname], or none of us can say who she is or ever was — just as our opponents who control the public square want it.

What the fuck does that even mean?

Anyway, the editors at the Daily Wire were apparently so thrilled by Knowles’s weird rant that they ran another post about the Knowles post, with the title: “Name ‘[Deadname] Page’ Erased From Oscars, IMDb Pages Except In One Spot.” In the post, writer Amanda Harding mainly just rehashed Knowle’s argument, writing that

The short bio on the Hollywood star doesn’t contain the name “Deadname” at all, even for roles that Page performed under the former name. Page’s acting past has been erased and rewritten, which Knowles compares to the classic dystopian novel “1984.”

Oh yeah, he did that. Because if you’re going for a literary reference why not go with the most hackneyed one possible?

The Daily Wire’s David Marcus wrote his own take on le affaire Elliot Page which was largely a defense of Peterson’s refusal to take down his original tweet about him, which Marcus attributes to the psychologist’s commitment to “radical truth,” which is apparently even better than regular truth because it allows you to be a shithead when it comes to transgender people and plus-sized Sports Illustrated models. Or something along those lines. I really didn’t read it very carefully. But can you blame me? Here’s the conclusion to his post:

In our confusing modern techno fog in which the physical and metaphysical blend with apparent ease his torch of truth sits alight up his philosophical hilltop, a beacon for those who wish to live free. May it ever be so.

The whole thing is like that. At least he only deadnames Page once.

I should also note that there is yet another post on Page that went up today on the site only to mysteriously disappear sometime before I tried to look at it. It was titled “”The ‘Transformation’ Of [Deadname] Page” and the Media’s Compulsory Praise,” so you can imagine where that one would be going.

I can’t imagine why they would take the story down. Maybe because it didn’t deadname Page enough.

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Full Metal Ox
2 years ago

I wonder what the Apostle Saul had to say on the subject…

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
2 years ago

There’s just so much wrongness in these it’s difficult to know where to start; people change their names all the time and always have, and somehow we’ve coped with it perfectly well. It’s almost as if the name change has nothing to do with what they’re all so upset about.
But my favourite aspect of this whole silliness is how “up yours, woke moralists – we’ll see who cancels who” has turned into Meme of the Month. Comedy gold from Dr Kermit.
A few examples here

Wez
Wez
2 years ago

Strange that none of these confused people are going after Alice Cooper or Marilyn Manson for their name choices.

Natsume
Natsume
2 years ago

I think it’s about time Elliot talk to his lawyers about suing the daily wail. Not for slander, or defamation. No. For malicious reckless endangerment and aggravated harassment. The wail will surely will scream bloody murder and condemn Page, instigating further damage. Let them destroy themselves on their own vitriol. Then Elliot can drive them bankrupt with damages and legal charges. Possibly even some criminal charges.

Last edited 2 years ago by Natsume
personalpest
personalpest
2 years ago

@Wez: Since Marilyn Manson abuses women, they actually like him.

Battering Lamb
Battering Lamb
2 years ago

@Wez: in the case of Manson that would go against their ‘stand with misogynist sex pests’-policy.

milotha
milotha
2 years ago

The right’s projection of liberals being triggered snowflakes continues. These guys are now butthurt over pronouns, and have nothing left but hate to sustain them. Their entire doctrine is hurt and hate liberal ideas and people out of insecurity and a lack of control. They have become bullies and abusers with no real ideas or actions to improve the country or the world, while getting more and more extreme by being feed a continuous diet of disinformation and conspiracy theories. The most deadname to me now is Republican, and we should just replace it with Qauthoritarians.

milotha
milotha
2 years ago

Oh, and they aren’t ever butthurt over anyone else changing their names, especially the majority of married women who change their last names. Or all the kids who ditch their childhood nickname It is not the name. It is the fact they have to acknowledge trans people exist and should be treated as human beings.

LouCPurr
LouCPurr
2 years ago

70% percent of US women change their names when they get married but somehow that isn’t confusing to these dipshits

LouCPurr
LouCPurr
2 years ago

I suspect part of the reason they’re so upset about Page’s transition is that they found him attractive before he transitioned. Female-presenting Page looked like perfect girlfriend material–cute, funny, low maintenance, Seeing him now (especially in the sexy ab photos) has to set off some gay panic in them.

Viscaria
Viscaria
2 years ago

But “[Deadname]” isn’t Miss Page’s “deadname.”

You know he’s only throwing that “Miss” in there to misgender Page one more time (and also to infantilize him). If he was talking about a cis person, I’m positive he would just use the last name.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
2 years ago

OT, but now this site is loading at decent speed again. Thanks for the maintenance work.

bcb
bcb
2 years ago

only to mysteriously disappear

So you’re saying the Daily Wire 1984-style memory-holed an article on their site? If they had even a shred of consistency, that would make them just as evil as the editors of IMDB.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@Mish – Ha, thanks for the link!

I’m sure others have said this, but if Peterson is so concerned about “proper” use of pronouns, shouldn’t it be “we’ll see who cancels whom“?

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
2 years ago

@Lumipuna:

No it’s not.

Is there some kind of humor intended here that I’m not getting?

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 years ago

I’ve recently seen two memes on this subject:

“If you call this man ‘John Wayne’ then you are capable of not deadnaming people.” [Possibly paraphrased, I forgot the exact wording. Note that actor John Wayne’s birth name was Marion Morrison.]

Jordan Peterson [as Wanda]: “You took everything from me!”
Elliot Page [as Thanos]: “I don’t even know who you are.”

It isn’t just Peterson and Shapiro who are getting into a deadnaming frenzy of Page lately. Dave Rubin has also been doing this.

I would not be surprised that one of the “issues” here is that certain manbabies are sad that the image one of their masturbatory fantasies got ruined. I’d suggest to find a porn star to obsess over instead, except that I’d expect that purity and untouchability might also be involved and a porn star doesn’t provide that.

JesuswasBatman
JesuswasBatman
2 years ago

It certainly is because alt-right types were sexually attracted to Page pre-transition. There was a very creepy anti-trans meme going around a few days ago on Twitter showing two photos of Page as a woman with a caption along the lines of “what they took from us”. Given that he was still playing teens and undergraduate students well into his twenties it also ties into the alt-right obsession with teenage girls.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 years ago

“If you call this man ‘John Wayne’ then you are capable of not deadnaming people.”

Let’s hope these people never hear of Rita Hayworth. (Mind you, that was more something the studio forced on her)

Last edited 2 years ago by Moon Custafer
GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
2 years ago

his torch of truth sits alight up his philosophical hilltop, a beacon for those who wish to live free. May it ever be so.”

This rambling bit would be true of Elliot, but not anyone who has anything to do with the Daily Wire. Particularly flibbertigibbet drama queen Jordi Of The Hissy Fits.

Elliott is adorbs, funny, and likely would make an excellent boyfriend. The bozos at DW, not so much, in any of those categories.

Steph
Steph
2 years ago

Of all the transphobic things people do Deadnaming makes the least sense to me. No matter what you think of their gender identity they have a new legal name.

What is the argument against using it?!

Steph
Steph
2 years ago

Even if one were to accept the dubious premise that men have a right to call themselves “Sally” and ladies a right to call themselves “Hank,” [Deadname] isn’t dead. “

Whut?? We literally do accept that premise. It’s why there are mechanisms for people to change their legal name. Also parents are free to give their children name’s of the opposite gender.

Acid Kritana
2 years ago

I wish I had his abs….

Jealousy LMAO

Acid Kritana
2 years ago

@LouCPurr

I suspect part of the reason they’re so upset about Page’s transition is that they found him attractive before he transitioned. Female-presenting Page looked like perfect girlfriend material–cute, funny, low maintenance, Seeing him now (especially in the sexy ab photos) has to set off some gay panic in them.

He’s setting the gay off in me lol

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 years ago

Eh, I’m bisexual. He’s cute regardless.

Elaine the witch
Elaine the witch
2 years ago

@Snowberry

Same. He is just a good looking human regardless.