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Dating “is like being the father of a girl you just so happen to have sex with,” and other creepy thoughts from some crypto dude

“Slippery Rick” is a crypto dude on Twitter. He also has opinions about women.

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1493591627708997635

Yikes. And we’re just getting started.

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1526912311130214410

I don’t know if this dude is in any sense real, or just a devoted troll. He’s at least … creative?

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1526920862338883584

Huh. This guy is either a complete troll or an asipring serial killer.

A quick twitter search reveals that he’s got a LOT of other opinions about women.

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1522329153642500096
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1518295170223067138
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1522621411134783489
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1518984922110824448
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1521472209348296704
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1519017459268964355
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1520988155570429953

While collectively these tweets smell strongly of troll, individually they don’t seem much weirder or more extreme than, say, a post on Incels.is that I know to be sincere.

Oh look, a little poll.

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1523395067985072128

OK, now we’re just getting silly:

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1518970794629545984
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1521541722248994816
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1525100709431201792

Rick also offers us some tantalizing details from his alleged dating life. Big emphasis on the “alleged.”

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1519133478780026881

Here he explains himself in a little more detail, though I’m pretty sure none of this is true.

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1520636947554656258
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1518200798488010753

Here he talks about his attempts to gain more followers by pretending to be a woman.

https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1520223116995276800
https://twitter.com/asparagoid/status/1520068169385361411

To the best of my knowledge he has not done this — yet. Stay tuned, I guess.

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Schnookums Von Fancypants, Naughty Basic Horse
Schnookums Von Fancypants, Naughty Basic Horse
2 years ago

@milotha

The only way this guy is getting laid is if he goes back to prison.

I get the impulse, but can we not please? It’s not cool.

Lakitha K Tolbert
Lakitha K Tolbert
2 years ago

Alan Robertshaw:
No, really her entire body was filled with giant space slugs. Totally not sexy!
(Warning for blood and gore)

https://youtu.be/71kAAVlpENY

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
2 years ago

@Lakitha

I remember when that film came out. Only saw a photo of that scene, but it was enough. Pregnancy horror by cis men always messes me up. (And yeah, it’s pretty easy to tell it was written and/or directed by a man, though have to say I didn’t expect the man to be James Gunn).

I think “totally not sexy!” might not be accurate for the authors though. Part of the reason dude-written body horror about women messes me up, is it tends to read (or look) like sexual voyeurism.

Last edited 2 years ago by Cyborgette
GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
2 years ago

@Alan: She’d better not be on a frictionless surface! Or there she goes, sliding on the infinite plane.

@Schnookums: Not cool.

And for this guy, not even then. Prisoners steer clear of “them ones with the crazy eyes,” I was told by an ex-con.

Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ Lakitha K Tolbert

Er, thank you for that. That was certainly a thing. Mind you, if there’s one thing forgetting to switch Google to safe search has taught me, there probably are some people who find that sexy. I don’t know whether that’s a wonderful example human diversity, or time to look for another planet.

(Knowing my luck I’d get the one with those slug things.)

Lakitha K Tolbert
Lakitha K Tolbert
2 years ago

Cyborgette:
Yeah, I think pregnancy horror is pretty terrifying and there are a bunch of movies that at their core are about sexual assault and pregnancy (Alien, The Brood, Rabid), a lot of them made in the 70s and 80s, but every now and then we get a throwback in movies like Slither. And yeah, all of them are directed by men, so the assumption that men think pregnancy is frightening is an appropriate one.

It’s interesting to observe that when women make horror movies (of which there are incredibly few) they are often about things like forbidden consumption (Raw, Ravenous, XX) and motherhood (Beloved, The Babadook).

Alan Robertshaw: I did think that scene was horrifying, and no you probably do not want to see it (as there is alien sexual assault involved, and quite frankly most of the movie is a euphemism for it). The movie is a comedy but there are a lot of scenes (like that one) that are not played for laughs. At least I didn’t think they were funny and didnt get the impression they were supposed to be. But I did laugh at the character’s incredulous reactions to the events.

Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ Lakitha K Tolbert & Cyborgette

It’s interesting to observe that when women make horror movies 

You may find this interesting. It was recommended to me by another commentator here; and I really enjoyed it. Admittedly that was more for the way the project was done; and the writer/star is part of a group of film makers I like anyway.

But it is also great narratively and in terms of characters.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/feb/12/prevenge-review-alice-lowe-sightseers

C.A. Collins
C.A. Collins
2 years ago

@Schnookums:

Only way he’ll get laid is crawling up a bird’s ass and waiting?

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
2 years ago

@Alan, @Lakitha

Yeah, another way I like to think of it is “horrible things happening to women” vs. “women experiencing horrible things”. So, a question of who the implied audience is, and who is empathized with.

I always used to tell friends who recommended horror something like, “if I wanted to read about awful things happening to women, I’d read the news”. My feelings about the genre have changed very much since I discovered Caitlin R. Kiernan and other women authors, but I feel like that old sentiment still says a lot about the state of the mainstream.

Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ cyborgette

I like to think of it is “horrible things happening to women” vs. “women experiencing horrible things”.

I think I get that. Like for example, torture porn stuff (in the mainstream cinema sense) versus Ripley from Alien(s)?

In the first woman are just objects things happen to; in the latter the woman actually has agency and does something about it. So she’s the subject?

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
2 years ago

@Alan

Yes, that’s part of it, but IMO a well portrayed female horror character doesn’t even have to win or survive… or have much agency, though at that extreme it can get hard on the audience. I think the essence is more about the gaze: who’s assumed to be watching, and how they’re expected to react. Stephen King is a masterful writer, but when he has e.g. a guy encounter a woman’s corpse and describes her tits before anything else, he knows exactly what he is doing. Combining death and titillation like that isn’t an accident.

But also yes, having women protagonists with agency is def something I like to see in horror. Even if it ends badly for them. Though the specific way it ends badly is often very telling too – e.g. not so specific to horror, but a lot of stories have a woman raped and murdered graphically for “trying to play a man’s game” (such as organized crime). Realistic? In a lot of cases yes, but the way it’s presented is a pretty explicit message to women in the audience to shrink ourselves down and stay afraid.

TBH I had a similar problem with the movie Promising Young Woman, though that’s… different, as it’s a deliberate deconstruction of the rape-revenge film. But also the ending relies on the male villain performing a physically impossible feat, breaking a pair steel handcuffs with main strength, so he can murder the protagonist. She was a woman playing a man’s game, of course she couldn’t win, even if that required the laws of physics themselves to be violated to ensure her death. And that is also a surprisingly common entertainment trope!

But Emerald Fennell at least chose to invoke that trope very deliberately and with understanding, as a way of dealing with her trauma and deconstructing a different toxic trope; and I have to respect that as one survivor to another, though my instincts sure like to yell at me for it.

When some cis dude does it though? IMO he also knows what he is doing, and his purpose is a much less savory one.

Last edited 2 years ago by Cyborgette
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ cyborgette

a physically impossible feat, breaking a pair steel handcuffs 

You got me intrigued. I do like to look at ‘survival’ scenes in film and see how they compare to real life. It is pretty easy to break handcuffs if you know the techniques. Paradoxically, it’s often easier to escape from the better quality ones.

But I looked at the scene in question. I can’t find a clip of the actual escape itself. But yeah, in the initial scene the antagonist’s panic suggests he isn’t comfortable with being incapacitated, and the implication is he does it through brute strength. Of course people can do all sorts of things under pressure. We tend to operate at about 40% capacity. That’s our nervous system protecting the body from permanent damage. But you can overrule that.

Having said that, unless those are novelty cuffs, I would expect someone who had wrenched themselves free to have significant hand or wrist damage. And event though people can still operate through pain, broken bits can’t actually function.

So yeah, it seems the scene is more akin the the unkillable supernatural villain rises again, just as you thought it was safe, rather than anything grounded in reality. But I can understand that as an artistic choice

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
2 years ago

@Cyborgette:

even if that required the laws of physics themselves to be violated to ensure her death. And that is also a surprisingly common entertainment trope!

Breaking the laws of physics themselves, if necessary, to railroad a specific plot outcome? Yep; that’d be deus ex machina, i.e. it’s so common the ancient Romans came up with a name for it 2000 years ago.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
2 years ago

@Alan

Oh interesting, I legit didn’t know that. But yeah, I think in this case it was an artistic choice, esp. given what Fennel has said in interviews about the film. Not one that sits easy with me, but see again needing to respect it.

@Surplus

The gendered version I’m talking about is a specific case, and I think you know that’s what I’m saying. I see your snark and dismissal here and I do not appreciate it.

Last edited 2 years ago by Cyborgette
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ cyborgette

 I legit didn’t know that. 

Glad you found it interesting. It is a lot easier to get out of cuffs though if you have something like a hairpin. Saves all the wrist damage. ‘Professional’ criminals often carry a handcuff key down the back of their pants (nearly all handcuffs take the same key). Although cops will usually know to check for that.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
2 years ago

ah, the curse of short hair :-\

I wonder if a key could readily be made to look like an innocuous part of a bracelet/pendant/brooch?

Last edited 2 years ago by opposablethumbs
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ opposablethumbs

I shave my head, so unfortunately I don’t have many bobby pin opportunities.

It wouldn’t work here anyway. Our police have switched to a new style of cuffs in order to frustrate some of the usual escape methods.

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They still take the standard key though.

Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ oppsablethumbs

Oh yeah, you can get them as jewellery, earrings, USB sticks, pen tops, belt buckles….

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opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
2 years ago

Those belt-buckles look very neat, especially as (I think??) the key bit wouldn’t show at all with the buckle closed. I guess it would take a lot of practice to be able to even attempt an escape, though! Not like in the films … :-s

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
2 years ago

@Alan wow interesting. Though not sure how effective they’d be in the modern US. IDK how often cops here use Flexicuffs, but I’ve met at least one person who had a hand injury from those things.

Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ cyborgette

Yeah, flexicuffs can cause pretty bad wrist injuries if you struggle. You can just snap ordinary cable tie like things; but the cuffs are designed to be resistant to that (they flex rather than snap; look like they learned from the cheap handcuff experience).

But it is possible to escape from them. You need to either secrete some strong rough thread on your person, or be able to untie your shoelaces whilst restrained.

(I dread to think what the FBI must think on how this thread is developing!)

Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

This is someone using the shoelace version. If you look closely, he’s untied his laces, put one of them around the cuffs, then tied that to the other lace. Then the leg kicking motion is just band-sawing through the cuffs.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
2 years ago

@Cyborgette:

I see your snark and dismissal here and I do not appreciate it.

I intended no snark or dismissal; indeed, I was agreeing with you.

Dave
Dave
2 years ago

It’s possible to get out of cuffs, but if we are talking about shattering them in some sort of dramatic Incredible Hulk manner, that’s a comic book thing.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
2 years ago

@Milotha:

My real guess on this is its an AI bot account feed manosphere and incel crap. There is a set of computer savvy guys generating these to get clicks and reactions for their twitter money stream. They are basically monetizing hatred of women, anger, and politics. Its end stage crapitalism.

I think some new variation of Poe’s Law may be needed now, with “extremists vs. bot trained on extremist material” in lieu of “extremists vs. parody”.