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Open Thread: Fascist gunmen murders ten in an attack on a supermarket in Buffalo

An 18-year-old white supremacist — “educated” on 4chan and inspired by the Christchurch massacre in New Zealand — drove several hours to a TOPS supermarket in Buffalo on Saturday and opened fire on customers and staff, some in the parking lot, some in the store. Ten are dead.

The shooter, who was wearing body armor, deliberately chose the specific store because it was in a predominantly black neighborhood and he was aiming to kill black people, whom he considers “invaders” with no right to live in the majority white United States. The shooter was taken into custody.

We don’t yet know many of the details of the attack itself but we do know a good deal about the shooter and what inspired him because, of course, he dropped a lengthy manifesto online, which I am reading now in preparation for a longer post. Large sections of the manifesto are plagiarized word-for-word from the Christchurch shooter, one of the Buffalo shooter’s inspirations.

As various people have already observed, portions of the sprawling manifesto parallel the anti-diversity monologues of Tucker Carlson on Fox News so closely that they might as well have been plagiarized. Or the other way around. If you were to drop sections of the manifesto into Tucker’s teleprompter he and his fans might not even notice a change.

Open thread; no trolls. Post any useful information and/or links you run across.

EDIT: Made a few changes in grafs 1 and 3 to correct one error and offer more context.

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Catalpa
Catalpa
2 years ago

black people, whom he considers “invaders”

Black people are the invaders??? Their ancestors got dragged to the country against their fucking will. The white people were the ones who decided to go to a different land, claim it as their own property, and commit genocide against the indigenous inhabitants of the place.

Fucking white supremacist brainrot, continually providing bullshit justifications for horrific actions.

Battering Lamb
Battering Lamb
2 years ago

@Catalpa: That was also what my brain latched on to.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
2 years ago

So, do we get to charge Fucker Carlson with incitement yet?

KindaSortaHarmless
KindaSortaHarmless
2 years ago

@Catalpa

Yeah, that jumped out at me, too.

Nequam
Nequam
2 years ago

I’m worried he’s going to turn out to be just baby-faced enough that if he can make with the sniffles and wobbly lower lip like Rittenhouse scummy wypipo will be all “oh poor baby” and/or make a hero of him.

I wonder if Danny Elfman has considered updating the lyrics of “Only a Lad”?

oncewasmagnificent
oncewasmagnificent
2 years ago

Amazing! Fancy that! A shooter responsible for a shocking mass murder could calmly give himself up at the scene, surrounded by blood, screams and all the attendant carnage and not one shot was fired, apparently no punches, kicks, or other assaults were delivered by the overstressed, overexcited cops on site.

Wendy’s or Macca’s on the ride to his new home? I can’t see what’s so unusual (- apart from him being white, that is).

Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
2 years ago

The ancestors of most African Americans were here in the USA longer — often far, far longer — than the ancestors of most white Americans. Also, black Americans did a great deal to build this country, without pay or thanks but with a great deal of suffering. Most white people moved here for opportunity. Most black people were kidnapped and dragged here.

My boyfriend is from Buffalo. It’s in the Rust Belt, that part of the formerly industrial Northeast of the USA that has not significantly bounced back from its economic slump after some industries hightailed it out of this country.

Allandrel
Allandrel
2 years ago

I wonder if the victims’ families will be able to sue Tucker Carlson.

@oncewasmagnificent

It really is astonishing how police officers who “fear for their lives” when confronting unarmed black teenagers can nonviolently arrest a heavily-armed white gunman who just murdered ten people.

Sandra Beardsley
Sandra Beardsley
2 years ago

I have no words,just heart sick outrage. I am about fifty miles from Buffalo and it’s bad here. Most folks here get their only “news” from fox and their fellow travelers. I’d escape if I could but there is a decent amount of good progressive people too. I appreciate your covering this, this site has been a real lifeline.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

Allandrel wrote:

It really is astonishing how police officers who “fear for their lives” when confronting unarmed black teenagers can nonviolently arrest a heavily-armed white gunman who just murdered ten people.

I’m sure the cops don’t think he murdered any people; the kindly lad just did their jobs for them for a few minutes.

ACAFE (not just bad, fucking evil)

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

*lights a candle for the dead and another for those who grieve*

Ursa George Artio
Ursa George Artio
2 years ago

Hi, I’m from nearby Buffalo and have lots of friends and family in the city. This shooting took place in a food desert and the closing of that Tops supermarket is a hardship for the community. Please help out with a donation to Buffalo Community Fridge. Monetary donations can be made to the group’s Venmo, @bflocommunityfridge

https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/how-you-can-help-those-impacted-by-saturdays-mass-shooting

numerobis
numerobis
2 years ago

title: “gunmen” should be singular.

content: about as shocking to me as news circa 2004 of yet another mass killing in Baghdad.

Of course the NYT is extremely reluctant to use the ‘t’ word but at least they’re pointing out it isn’t just a lone wolf disconnected from anything else that’s going on in the US:

Investigators Examine Suspect’s Racist Motivation After Buffalo MassacreAn 18-year-old white man drawn to a white supremacist ideology known as replacement theory shot 13 people, 11 of them Black, at a grocery store.

Gunmen have referenced the racist idea of “replacement theory” during a string of mass shootings in recent years.

Last edited 2 years ago by numerobis
Mels
Mels
2 years ago

Is anyone else feeling day after day after day like a dinosaur stuck in a tar pit

Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
2 years ago

At this point I think we can pretty much give up on the whole “peace on earth” thing. Between yesterday’s shooting in Buffalo, the war in Ukraine continuing to rage on, the already bitter Israeli-Palestinian conflict showing every sign of getting even worse, present-day Mexico resembling late 1920s Chicago, and US military confrontation with China looking not just possible but inevitable, it’s become heartbreakingly clear to me that the human race is hardwired to be violent and incapable of being anything else.

Last edited 2 years ago by Chris Oakley
Gen X
Gen X
2 years ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Canadian white supremacists are also involved or met with the attacker. So close to Niagara Falls, Ontario and the GTA.

Gen X
Gen X
2 years ago

To me attacks seem to be right wing gentrification ie a violent way to get rid of the non-whites to bring in the affluent white communities.

Police and violence are always used to displace and genocide non-whites in the USA.

Contrapangloss
Contrapangloss
2 years ago

@Mels,

Yeah. I do feel the big Doom Feelings of Doom.

The only things that help me pull out of it is backing out of the bad news places filled with Doom That I Cannot Change and focusing my energy on:

1) local good things (my dog, a friend being excited about a project, a thing that tastes/smells/feels good – whichever sense is the least overwhelmed) that make me feel connected to the world again

2) local things that I can help with (adding some stuff to free pantries, helping a lose dog find his/her people, being the friend excited about a project for another friend, finding the local people working to unite networks/communities of people and finding out what they’d find useful, little good things)

With all the terrible things out there, it’s easy to get doomed out past the little bit of motivating doom that makes us face problems and straight into the so doomed out that all you want to do is wallow in the dread pits.

Easier said than done, for sure.

It’s hard to bridge the gap between hiding in the good things and ignoring the bad, and getting so deep in the bad that you can’t even see the good.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
2 years ago

@Mels:

Is anyone else feeling day after day after day like a dinosaur stuck in a tar pit

While an ominous bright spot in the night sky gets noticeably brighter day by day, natch.

@Contrapangloss:

finding the local people working to unite networks/communities of people

How does one go about doing so?

Jennifer R Lawrence
Jennifer R Lawrence
2 years ago

I’ve lived in Buffalo for almost 6 years now, and unfortunately, a lot of people who have never been here or anywhere else upstate thinks that the whole state is as liberal as NYC.

It’s not. Not even close. A lot of the rest of the state, especially this area, is full of scummy racist Nazis. And those people are all cheering today.

All the rest of us, all the decent human beings who can actually feel the pain of the victims and their families, are in mourning and terrified.

DirectBandit
DirectBandit
2 years ago

I read the entire manifesto and about 50% of it is as banal as it is horrific; the same hatred, the same warped factoids, even the Sam Hyde joke these losers have been recycling for the past five years. So yeah, copy pasted. So much so that in fact a lot of channers are decrying it as a false flag government operation based on the text coming across as “a normie’s caricature of a white nationalist” (please look in the mirror fellas).

But about 50% of it isn’t. There’s 60-70 pages of meticulously researched and competently written original content in there, that isn’t racist or political and to my knowledge has never been in any of these lunatic suicide notes before. It’s a technical explanation of his tactical plan for maximum kills, plus a very long discussion of the gear he chose and considered, the pros, cons, and cost of everything, and where to buy it all. It’s basically a manual for a copycat, and despite Google’s best efforts it is circulating online right now.

lkekee5
lkekee5
2 years ago

I had plans to go the the supermarket today. One a little bit farther away from my house with more than a few white shoppers. I had my food delivered for the first time ever. I do however understand that that’s what people like that want. For us to cower in our homes and be too scared to do stuff. So I changed my mind. I’m going to the store tomorrow to get my fruit. I need apples and oranges and fear is not a factor. (Although I am going to a store a little bit closer to my house. Sorry to say this but I don’t feel comfortable being around too many white strangers right now.)

Full Metal Ox
Full Metal Ox
2 years ago

Security guard and former police officer (as well as Good Guy With A Gun) Aaron Salter, Jr., 55, died defending the people at Tops Market; so does this Blue Life Matter?

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/security-guard-murdered-in-buffalo-mass-shooting-hailed-as-a-hero-for-trying-to-stop-the-gunman/71-ba2400e1-8e04-4c78-be53-80ac484ce7d5

Contrapangloss
Contrapangloss
2 years ago

@Surplus,

Honestly? Mostly curiosity but also luck.

That’s just an example, not a must do. I just personally find it easier to find a person already doing a thing to fill a hole and asking how I can help. The way I’ve found the people doing community outreach has been different for every single one I’ve found, so I can’t give a “This is the one true way”.

Full Metal Ox
Full Metal Ox
2 years ago

@Ikekee5:

I had plans to go the the supermarket today. One a little bit farther away from my house with more than a few white shoppers. I had my food delivered for the first time ever. I do however understand that that’s what people like that want. For us to cower in our homes and be too scared to do stuff. So I changed my mind. I’m going to the store tomorrow to get my fruit. I need apples and oranges and fear is not a factor. (Although I am going to a store a little bit closer to my house. Sorry to say this but I don’t feel comfortable being around too many white strangers right now.)

I completely understand: every white person (at least every white Gentile) is Schrodinger’s Nazi in the same way that every man is Schrodinger’s Rapist—and it’s up to us to prove, through every word and action and without expecting prizes for simple decency, that we’re Not One Of Those.