When disaster — natural or man-made — strikes, people of all sorts are roused to action. Some of them look for ways to help; others try to figure out how to take advantage of the situation for their own personal gain.
There are few manmade disasters worse than war, and the refugees fleeing from Ukraine today are in a dire situation. Some in the west have stepped up to help.
But some aspiring sociopaths have taken a darker path: trying to figure out how to sexually exploit the mostly-female refugees at what it literally their worst moment on planet earth, offering “free” food and shelter to young women — in return for sex. Indeed, a Glasgow charity that works with refugees tells The Scotsman that it’s gotten “direct reports from young Ukrainian women” that skeezy men are trying to take advantage of the government’s Homes for Ukraine program to provide themselves with personal sexual slaves. Other NGOs have warned about more systematic attempts by human traffickers to capture young Ukrainian refugees for sex and/or labor.
You will probably not be too surprised to see Reddit’s “Red Pill” community, always eager to exploit any circumstance that might lead to them getting their dicks wet, is happily discussing what one Red Piller who goes by the name Gay LubeOil calls “the logical question for any contemporary rational male … How to Use the Desperation of Ukrainian War Refugees to your Sexual Advantage.”
Mr. LubeOil, despite his ridiculous user name and the many bad jokes he works into his posts, is dead serious; his ability to sound satirical without actually being so is part of what has made him into something of a celebrity on the Red Pill subreddit, and something of a mentor to younger or more inexperienced Red Piller. He’s not gay. Nor is he lube oil.
In his post on the subject, currently stickied as the top post in the Red Pill subreddit by the moderators, GLO starts by contrasting his idealized vision of Ukrainian women with their supposedly vastly inferior American counterparts.
“What are the sexual advantages of Ukrainian women?” he asks.
Unlike American women, who on average weigh 170 pounds at 5 feet 4 inches, Ukrainian women still possess a modicum of self-respect and have not gorged themselves into grotesque proportions like barnyard hogs….
Another stark contrast is that Ukrainian women possess souls. American women power wash away all semblance of personality via hormonal birth control, antidepressants, recreational drugs and social media.
The supposed libertines of the Red Pill subreddit are surprisingly illiberal when it comes to women taking birth control pills and other prescription drugs.
Ukrainian women, on the other hand, live simpler lives and spend their days digging for potatoes and playing the accordion. Their bloodstreams have not been colonized by big pharma and they are capable of face-to-face social interaction without turtling up in their smart phone at the slightest inconvenience. This means that Ukrainian women are not grotesque science experiments with soulless hollow eyes and can still be biologically classified as human beings.
But GLO is not interested in treating these women like human beings; he sees them, rather, as sentient sex toys and baby producers.
Finally, the most important difference between Ukrainian and American women is that the former are capable of providing you with healthy, viable offspring, while the latter will misappropriate your DNA and birth a transformer whose only life skill is genital self-mutilation and attaching itself to ceiling fans in creative ways.
I have no idea what the fuck he’s even talking about at this point.
Now that you understand the comparative value of Ukrainian females, it’s important to understand the driving factors behind the current sexual marketplace deep discount.
That’s one way of putting it.
[U]ncle Vladimir has given us a belated Christmas present: hot, young, fertile Ukrainian refugees. …
The devastation of Ukraine was purposefully engineered to flood the West with cheap, high-quality labor. So why not benefit from the situation by taking advantage of cheap, high-quality Ukrainian sexual labor?
He compares the current refugee crisis to the stock market, and encourages his readers to go all in.
Financial advisors always talk about buying the dip; now’s the time to invest your penis by dipping into Ukrainian vagina. The sexual market is no different than the stock market. You have to eke out every advantage you can get.
He contrasts the current “dating market” in the west to an idealized vision of the early years of the Pickup Artist (PUA) subculture, when wet-behind-the-ears junior PUAs could succeed with women by using an assortment of relatively simple pickup strategies.
We are well past the easy sexual marketplace of 2005 when a fedora and copy of the Mystery Method [a popular pickup guide] were sufficient to get you lady-hole. You don’t have to be a genius to understand that the world is rapidly deteriorating and that opportunities are becoming harder to come by.
Indeed, he suggests that even the most socially inept Red Pillers today should be able to succeed in getting sex if they concentrate their attentions on refugees.
Luckily for the Red Pill, Ukrainian women are already acclimated to living in basements on dirty mattresses and as such represent a perfect fit for the lifestyle of our readership. … All you need to do is be nice to them and find them living space between your elite gaming rig and boxes of Mountain Dew. Best of all, they won’t know how socially uncalibrated you are because of their limited English.
I don’t think they will need to understand a word anything their new American friends tell them in order to realize that their “benefactors” are weirdo assholes intent on exploiting them.
From a practical standpoint, all you need to know about Ukrainian women is that they will be arriving primarily in Central Europe and major western cities as refugees. They are easily identifiable by their stoic facial expressions, out-of-date choice of fashion and slim figures.
They will be in refugee camps, not out wandering the streets. I’m not sure how GLO thinks his readers will able to approach any of these women.
At the level of game, Ukrainian women are no different than any other second world woman which is to say they want to ride a dick into a first-world lifestyle. They are shallow, materialistic and willing to do anyone and anything that will give them the assets necessary to make their girlfriends at home jealous.
GLO, you do realize there’s a war going on over there? I’m sure most of the young female refugees will be far more concerned with helping their “girlfriends at home” to get out of Ukraine than in making them jealous.
If you do not manage the relationship properly you will find yourself in the same financial situation as the men who fell for the mail order bride scam in the 90s when the Soviet Union collapsed. If you do manage the relationship properly, she’ll be on the receiving end of your meat missile while her devoted husband is on the receiving end of a Kalibr cruise missile.
Sociopath says what?
When you’re defeated in war, someone else takes your women and passes on their superior genetics to them. When a simple Ukrainian man gets conned into joining Right Sektor and fighting on behalf of gay Aryan Rimjobs by a country that shall not be named …
Again, I have no fucking idea what he’s talking about here.
… his wives and daughters flee abroad and get drilled by foreigners. That’s just basic War Bride Theory. We the Red Pill didn’t create the situation nor do we have any power over it. What we can do however is take advantage of it with our penises. After all these Ukrainian vaginas have to get fucked by someone. Why not us?
After getting his readers hot and bothered by all the talk of sex with young and desperate women, GLO ends his post by linking to his website, where they can sign up for one-on-one “coaching.” He also links to his Telegram, which he describes as “an uncensorable fortress, for Red Pills so spicy they can’t be posted on Reddit.”
Who exactly is exploiting whom here?
And how exactly is stuff like this allowed to stay up on Reddit?
More on this ugly topic in future posts.
Or you can take a look at some of my earlier posts on the subject of sexual exploitation of desperate women — and the men who think it sounds like a swell idea.
Homeless girls: A frugal alternative to pricey prostitutes!
Incel hopes to find desperate runaway girls and abuse survivors to exploit for sex
H/T — Dub Teedub
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What a pile of dog shit GLO vomited out.
The UK Homes for Ukraine scheme might aalmost have been set up to be taken advantage of by creeps, as everyone with any awareness has been telling the UK Government since they announced it. Although to our shame the Home Office is still insisting on visas so the number of refugees we have admitted is tiny compared to other European countries. I suppose that the only good side to that is depriving British Red Pillocks of the opportunity to take advantage of refugees – pretty poor showing all round.
Yay potential rapists!
I love the combination of the horrific pessimism and cynicism with the myopic selfishness and utter lack of horror at mass rape in war.
I’m reminded of Dennis from It’s Always Sunny. “The implications” indeed.
Because there are not enough male allies to make corporations hear the voices of women calling for the removal, and/or women are busy fighting other fights.
I fought so many fights trying to get misogynistic bullshit off platforms, and have exactly a 0% success rate. Once I had 60 people backing me up as well, with a documented doxxing of a person who said he was male and the person doxxing doxxed because they said the person was female. It was clearly transphobia/misogyny, but I don’t know if the guy was actually trans or just using an IP which happened to be paid for by a woman; kind of suspect the latter since the LGBTQ+ gaymer group on the server was part of the 60 people backing me up on the reports and I reckon he would have been in there or my group if he was trans. It wasn’t a SUPER friendly server. The doxxer also had documented racial hate statements and other abusive shit going on. Nothing whatsoever happened. It’s really hard not to just give right the fuck up sometimes.
I wasn’t going to comment on this, but had an odd thought about it: What makes these women victims and these guys the ones in control?
I mean, I was thinking about if I would open my door to a Ukrainian woman if I had that option, and wondered if I could honestly trust some unknown person living in my place while I am off at work or something. I would know basically nothing except they are a refugee. (Might not even speak English.)
As an aside, for that matter, if I was inclined to invite random people in need into my home, why do they need to be refugees from across the planet? Why not go pick up a random homeless person around my neighborhood?
I guess what I am saying is, what makes these jackasses so certain they would have an obedient sex slave instead of someone who might lie, steal, abuse right back, etc, etc? What makes them think they can control these women well enough they won’t find an escape?
Long story short, wouldn’t it suck to come home after a long hard day of whatever the hell bullshit job these guys always seem to think is arduous back breaking labor, looking forward to a little fun, only to find their sex slave talked to the authorities, got a nice new lodging with an elderly couple who just wants to pat themselves on the back as saviors instead of victimize them, sold “the elite gaming rig”, and made sure the cops are there with some questions?
I suppose fantasies always work in one’s favor…
Given what I’ve seen here in the past from these turds and how they fetishize (crap, I’ve been using that word a lot today) Eastern European women as their Galatea of demure, exploitable femininity, this really doesn’t surprise me. When the war started I knew it was only a matter of time before David dug up them saying shit along this line about the female Ukrainian refugees.
It doesn’t make it any less revolting, though.
And why does he think Ukrainian people are like that? I’ve met an Ukrainian woman once and she wasn’t digging for potatoes or playing the accordion. She just looked like a modern, smart, regular person. Everything is wrong with that post.
1)
Um, GLO, dude, you are aware that there are also cities (and suburbs) in Ukraine, right? You know that it’s not all farmland and that not all Ukranians are poor, don’t you? (Probably not, but it’s meant as a rhetorical question.)
2) GLO:
David:
I think he means that (at least in his mind) the only things American kids are good at are transitioning and unaliving themselves. In the GLO quote above, I’ve underlined the context clues that led me to this conclusion.
3)
There’s probably not enough of these ignorant-of-Red-Pill-male-awfulness women as GLO thinks there are, because enough US commerce and culture has made its way across the globe (especially in the Internet age) to result in many non-Americans speaking English quite well.
In my previous comment, the “a” at the beginning of “attaching” didn’t underline, but you get the point. In conclusion, GLO is awful and dumb.
So this dude wants thin women because no woman in the US is under 170. Okay.
Also he promises these women a first world life style ….while gaming in the basement with Mountain Dew?
“First world” is in quotes. There are many lovely places that are not in the “first world”., obviously. For the Red Pillers, “first world” is a dog whistle for white and capitalist. That’s how I read it.
The thing that frightens me most about people like this is their casual conviction that everyone else is as evil as they are.
Wow. I agree, @Allendrel, the casualness of this is quite sinister. I had trouble not laughing while reading because I often laugh when uncomfortable. At times, this seemed like satire. Can he truly believe this?
Then, at the end, it was, oh wait no, of course he doesn’t, he’s just trying to tap into men’s insecurity, misogyny, and horniness enough to get them to pay for his “coaching”. smh
Once in awhile, you encounter someone whose head is so far up their butt, they’ve formed a sort of digestive Klein bottle. The sociopathy and the idiocy form a topologically continuous surface. It’s hard to even know where to begin.
The limited contact with the outside world, the lack of concern for their well-being, the hard drive full of child porn, the Great White Savior complex, and the general rapiness will tip them off. Most women speak fluent Creep. It’s an international language.
Anyway, the female Ukrainian developers I work with would be quite surprised to hear they dig potatoes, play accordion, and don’t speak English. They’re not even remotely pushovers. They’ve been through more in the past several weeks than this guy has in his whole life.
”These hot young Eastern European shampoo models can be spotted by their peasant grandma shawls and grim, wrinkled farming visages as they stand in line for bread, so reserve yours now!” He can’t even keep his stereotypes straight.
(I also notice he doesn’t suggest, y’know, talking to them to find out where they’re from. Nope! Just use your binoculars and this handy field guide to spot skinny women wearing embroidered skirts, and lure them into the van.)
It takes a special kind of narcissistic shitpickle to look at a tragic genocide in progress and think “How can this benefit my dick?”
“Simpler life.” Is he aware that Ukraine is a post-industrialized country? It isn’t any “simpler” than say France or Spain. Also, a lot of “fertile” women are staying and fighting. So there are more elderly people and children refugees than this “person’s” fantasy.
I can’t say anymore or I will run afoul of this page’s anti-violence rule.
@BQS:
Yeah. In the same vein, when he was telling his readers that Ukrainian women are “acclimated to living in basements on dirty mattresses”, he apparently forgot that he had previously told them that Ukrainian women are “capable of providing you with healthy, viable offspring”. He can’t figure out whether he’s trying to pitch these refugees as hearty rustic peasant breeding stock or begrimed impoverished slum-dwellers.
@Allandrel: It may be a tiny bit reassuring to recognize that a huge part of the reason why they can act so awfully is that they truly think everyone else is just as bad and is virtue signaling. It’s part of their self-delusion. If it’s challenged successfully, many will stop.
@.45: They’re bigots. So they think that Eastern European women will just all be their little Melania Trumps, and they care less about their well-being than they would even about an American woman.
I see GLO has not improved at all in the last decade. He used to be a bit of a feature back when the world and this place were young.
Years on this site has made me de-sensitised to the usual MRincel drivel. But this makes me viscerally angry. I think it’s because a lot of my friends are directly affected. A lawyer associate said cheerio to us 10 days ago now, to go fight on the front lines, and we haven’t heard from him since. And even my Ukrainian friends who are outside the country obviously still have loved ones there. So I think it’s like we were saying, in a less drastic subject, on the other thread about how when you have personal knowledge of something, it especially jars when it’s portrayed wrong.
I also hate this idea of Ukraine as some pre-industrial backwater. It has a millennia of cultural heritage; and it’s a hotbed of innovation in sciences and the arts. (Although I was surprised to find out that’s where half the Neon used to make computer chips comes from)
I’ve been following the war really closely. Both in general terms, but also with regards to the cultural side (it’s what a lot of my friends are involved in).
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-rushes-to-save-cultural-heritage-from-destruction/a-61158291
But their erroneous assessment of Ukraine is irrelevant. It’s the exploitation of the vulnerable. To me, they’re no better than the Russian troops raping or using children as human shields.
Argh, I’d better stop ranting and take some deep breaths. But anyway, hope some of that made sense.
I have one word for all of this drivel: Rage.
That’ll be all.
Sweet gods, I’m not even going to try to read this.
Forget banning them from reddit and discussion forums, these guys deserve to be banned from human society. 😐
Thanks for posting and sharing this David.
RE this section:
>Finally, the most important difference between Ukrainian and American women is that the former are capable of providing you with healthy, viable offspring, while the latter will misappropriate your DNA and birth a transformer whose only life skill is genital self-mutilation and attaching itself to ceiling fans in creative ways.
He is referring to trans individuals here because every one of these misogynists are also generally white supremacists and are real big on every other type of hate and bigotry.
Here is an example of a post from about a year ago on minority dating where they had a whole section on “race traitors” – archive link https://archive.ph/Mspg9
I’m unsure whether their ridiculous portrayal of Ukranian women as 18th century potato farmers is based on their own idiocy, or an attempt to prepare thier beliefs for rejection and failure by hast use of “No true scotsman” – as in:
“Dude, I flashed my dick at this Ukranian refugee, and she didn’t immediatly want to come and live in my basement! She just told me in English to go away, then called the police on her phone! And she didn’t even own an accordion!”
“Ah, you see, she’s not a true Ukranian refugee. She’s from the terrible westernised part of Ukraine. You want someone from the true, old Ukraine!”
I mean, it’s the same as their view of most of Asia as well.
@BQS:
Explains why their moral compasses won’t work — that’s a non-orientable surface.
@Fred B-C:
But in a world where everyone else really was just as bad, there wouldn’t be such a thing as “virtue signaling” … at least, not of anything we’d recognize as a virtue. Virtue signaling only makes sense if some people are genuinely what the virtue signalers are faking being.
Slightly OT, but that was a strange night. Just popped to the kitchen. To find a guy with blood stained hands holding a knife.
All sorted now glad to say. Had to get the police involved. But he seemed more delusional than dangerous so made it clear not interested in pressing charges or anything.
But that was a weird end to what’s been a weird day generally. Wonder what my horoscope said?
@ Alan Robertshaw
Yikes! Glad it was all sorted with no one hurt, but it must have been rather a shock for you even so.