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“The age of consent should ideally be around seven” and other terrible opinions from the internet’s worst incel site

Disgust is a natural reaction

If you’ve been looking for a website that will destroy your last shred of hope for humanity, might I suggest the incel forum BasedHaven? While not as appallingly popular as sites like Incels.is and Looksmax.org, the small site makes up for this with the sheer terribleness of its discussions.

Let’s consider several different threads currently up on the forum’s front page. I honestly don’t know which one is the worst.

First, there’s the thread titled “Ariel Castro was a based and underrated saint.”

Castro, you may recall, was the Cleveland man who kidnapped and imprisoned three girls (ages 14, 16, and 20) for nearly a decade. He ultimately pleaded guilty to literally hundreds of counts of rape, kidnapping, and murder before taking his own life in his jail cell.

While all the BasedHaven members in the discussion agreed that Castro was indeed “based,” a few were disappointed that he hadn’t gone further. Someone calling himself JosefMengelecel — a self-described “[p]roud advocate of rape, incest, and pedophilia” — offered a number of suggestions for anyone thinking of trying their own Castro-style kidnappings. It’s pretty clear he’s thought about it a lot.

“Yeah he was pretty based although a criticism I have is that he only locked them in the basement,” he began.

If he were to slip up just once, then they could easily escape which is exactly what happened. What he should have done instead was to lock them in cages in the basement so that he would have extra security. He also should have kidnapped younger foids so that he could groom them into eventually becoming loyal to him.

In several followup comments he elaborated further.

Yeah he should have went to an elementary school and kidnapped some 8 yo lolis instead. They are easier to groom and he has a better chance for them to get Stockholm syndrome. Maybe he could have kidnapped toddlers since they will be even easier to groom but he would have to wait for a few years before fucking them. …

Younger is always better when it comes to grooming. Stockholm syndrome is more likely to be a thing for younger foids because they are easier to manipulate. If he did this with lolis instead, his slip up might not have even cost him everything since at that point, they would have seen him as a father figure.

Hopefully a new saint emerges that will mog him, Saint Peter Scully, and Saint Tsutomu Miyazaki combined.

Just FYI: Peter Scully is an Australian serial child rapist and alleged child porn producer and distributor; he’s also suspected of the murder of an 11-year-old. Tsutomu Miyazaki, the so-called “Otaku Murderer,” killed five girls, the youngest of whom was only 4 at the time, and molested their corpses.

JosefMengelecel also thinks that

levels of psychological torture can help keep foids in line by depriving them of any feelings or emotions. That way you can completely break them and have them as sex slaves that will not argue back and let you have your way.

I sincerely hope that this guy is on some sort of watchlist.

In an another thread, a commenter called meremy jeeks argued that “[t]he best way to enforce patriarchy is female genital mutilation without anesthesia.”

He explained:

If a man marries a woman, he may simp to her by trying to make her orgasm, and this can also include eating her out. The only orgasm that matters is a man’s orgasm, since that is necessary for reproduction. A woman’s sexual pleasure is at best frivilous, at worst something she can shame her man for not giving her.

Since a woman should never be allowed to shame a man in any way, she should have her clitoris cut off before she gets married. I think age 8 is a good age, because she is still young and not married (even Muhammad didn’t have sex with his wife until at least 9). She also has a low threshold for pain. So if she gets her clitoris removed, the pain will be extreme and she will be moaning in agony, this will send a message to her about how low she is compared to men and remove any sense of pride she has. This also makes her less focused on her own sexual pleasure and thus more focused on pleasing her husband. Lastly, she deserves it, because she would become a whore if not for patriarchy.

A regular commenter who named himself after the Otaku Murderer set forth his thoughts on the subject:

What a foid wants is completely irrelevant and caring about that is soycuckoldry. I have no problems with grabbing a foid and violently raping her if the law allowed it. I would be able to have sex just fine as it is only my pleasure that is relevant. Funnily enough foids do orgasm from rape so she actually would be pleasured too lmao.

In another thread, MiyazakiCel set forth his position on age of consent laws. He thinks that 15 is

way too high. The age of consent should ideally be around 7 or so. 13 is the highest aoc which is reasonable. Anything above that is commie feminist shit.

Another prime candidate for a watchlist.

These discussions sound an awful lot like an attempt to justify terrible things that these guys clearly fantasize about doing in real life. We can only hope that these guys keep all of this in the realm of fantasy, but I’m not convinced that they all will.

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Elaine the witch
Elaine the witch
2 years ago

@kat

I doubt otter is new cause he said “of a navy seal or whatever “which means he’s stalked around enough to know my husband is in the military since I haven’t mention that here.

Tbh with how they went off of on me, it could be acids sock account for all I know. I just know that tantrum was quite funny when I dare bring up his previous saintly mother was defiled by cocked and probably enjoyed it in her life time.

occasional reader
occasional reader
2 years ago

> Victorious Parasol
Congratulations ! Hope you could celebrate that joyously with Mr Parasol.

> the topic of the post
Hope Interpol will come hard on this kind of assholes. Problem is it is hard, especially if servers are located in not really rully offshore paradises. Last operation, they’ve got about 200 pedocriminals, but it took more than 2 years.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

Thanks for the congratulations, everyone! It’s been great to have that particular weight off our shoulders after carrying it for so many months. Even when you know the odds are in your favor, you still have to cope with the possibility that they aren’t.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago
North Sea Sparkly Dragon
North Sea Sparkly Dragon
2 years ago

Well, this is disturbing…

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

@One Time Otter:

It’s the idea that we’re frustrated but someone else is out living the dream that’s so terribly outrageous

You’re arguing hard for sexual socialism, but I’ll bet you’re also the first person to rush to the defense of billionaires whenever there are proposals to regulate their money: “They EARNED their millions! Taxation is theft!”

The difference is that income inequality causes measurable and direct harm to society, while sex inequality really only matters to a very small subset of men who use sex to keep score with each other. You’re proposing to arbitrarily suppress an entire instinctual human behavior – a behavior that does not harm or diminish you in any way – for a large segment of the population because you, personally, have decided that sex is a mandatory prerequisite to power and adulthood, instead of a mutually enjoyable activity that two consenting adults may or may not decide to do.

You’re like the person in the Zen parable who tries to cover the entire earth in leather, rather than put on a pair of shoes.

Similarly, here’s you, totally without self awareness, moments after arguing that there Oughta Be A Law against attractive young men having sex:

Government should shut down everything and give me money so I don’t catch a cold. Also, it should cancel my student loans I took out as an adult, and guarantee me employment. Offensive speech should be banned, but only against groups I like.

So when government helps you, you’re a deserving and sympathetic victim of hardship due to circumstances beyond your control, but when it helps other people, they’re weak and whiny crybabies and it’s all their fault. That’s not very logical of you.

I am 28 and have never fucked. I don’t see what the big deal is – the very thought is repulsive to me

Then why do you even care what other people do? I don’t like olives, but I’m not going around demanding that society ban them.

Malintzin
Malintzin
2 years ago

I do not even wish to go to this website. This is horrifying and scary. No one normal in any epoch has thought this way. I hope the FBI will be checking them out.
Also, for normal and rational people, who may or may not politely disagree, there have often been some variations on the age of consent for women (more rarely for men). However, as I understand it, most human beings become sexually active in their teens (more often around 16, sometimes, a little earlier depending on the culture – it wasn’t uncommon in pioneer or primitive societies to marry/become sexually active a bit earlier).

Here is the big difference.

In all these societies, the people marrying were considered ADULTS. Our definition of when a child becomes an adult has varied and that is normal. Sexism has definitely played a huge and harmful role. Some societies “grew women up” far too early in my opinion. We do not have to agree with the perceptions of previous societies. I’m just commenting on history. But “raping a 7 year old child” was NOT considered normal. Locking women in cages was not normal.

Child brides In the Middle Ages were usually limited to political alliances and the marriages were consummated during the teenage years, as would make sense for the culture of that time. When King John of England stole his vassal’s young child bride and kept her for himself it was a terrible scandal.

Let’s all humbly hope these horrible people are on an FBI watchlist and banned from being near children.

Last edited 2 years ago by Malintzin
LouCPurr
LouCPurr
2 years ago

I did a Google on the sliminess of otters and learned that ‘snot otter’ is another name for hellbenders.

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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ louCpurr

 ‘snot otter’ 

If there isn’t a 70’s style punk band called The Snot Otters someone is missing a trick.

Also, he or she is very cute.

ETA: Actually Hellbenders is also a cool band name. These guys must be really in with taxonomists.

Last edited 2 years ago by Alan Robertshaw
GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
2 years ago

@Elaine: Get the inhaler NOW.

I slumped around the house unable to do anything for a couple months, and I finally talked to my doctor and after only a week of albuterol, I was able to walk around the big med center for a visit and tests, and even go to the grocery store. I’m also sleeping much better. And I’m over twice your age, not athletic, and chubby.

Still not 100% but so much better. It says I can use it 4 times a day but I’ve never needed more than 3. It tastes kinda gross but I eat or mouthwash right after.

@LouCPurr/Alan: Now I’m hearing an announcer yelling, “Give it up for The Snot Otters and their new song Hellbenders! Wooooooo!”

Robert Haynie
Robert Haynie
2 years ago

… Actually, Hellbenders sounds more like the title of a 90’s era comic book to me. One where the men wear pouches and guns, the women wear pouches and not a great deal else, and anatomy is kinda an afterthought. (I’m looking at you, Rob Liefeld.)

Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
2 years ago

@Victorious Parasol
That is some seriously great news! I’m very happy for you.

Jazzlet
Jazzlet
2 years ago

Cute little snot otter, good above the palate cleanser, thank you LouCPurr. Somehow I’m imaging a band a little younger than the Slits in a sweaty smokey pub in Camden …

TyrantBitchGoddessStacey
TyrantBitchGoddessStacey
2 years ago

Hellbender (the singular) sounds like a drink, like a triple espresso shot with overproof rum that gets lit on fire. I don’t drink but it sounds like something my sponsors would think is cool to drink and goes with the ambience of my personal parlour when they’ve been invited into it to for a special occasion to marvel at me subjecting a devotee to disciplinary drill while he and I both looking fucking amazing doing it.

Bill Reynolds
Bill Reynolds
2 years ago

FaceBook has prevented me from sharing the above article because it “contains material that some people have reported as being abusive”. Of course, the FB police are missing the point, as usual. Thought you should knowl.

bumblebug
bumblebug
2 years ago

@Elaine and GSS:
If your insurance covers it (or you can afford it ~$20), you should get a spacer. It’s a little obnoxious to carry around, so I only use it at home (prior to running) or if I can bring it in a gym bag. But it makes the inhaler so much more effective and reduces the gross taste.

Threp
Threp
2 years ago

@Stacy

You need a bit of dry ice for a nice film of “smoke” as well. Maybe serve the drink in a nice demitasse and saucer, with the ice in the saucer? It would look spectacular, the flames rising from a smoking teacup.

@VP

Happy you had good news! 🙂

Last edited 2 years ago by Threp
.45
.45
2 years ago

@ Victorious Parasol

Yes, that is good news. I’m glad you are doing alright

Full Metal Ox
Full Metal Ox
2 years ago

@TyrantBitchGoddessStacey:

This is a departure from topic, but have you seen the costumes from the 2022 Mr. Global contest? Those, suitably gendershifted, might afford you some inspiration for costuming—I was particularly struck by Mr. Indonesia’s tiger and Mr. Nigeria’s BE NOT AFRAID angel.)

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/mister-global-costumes-2022

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

I like Mr UK’s suit; but I love Mr Malaysia’s!!!

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
2 years ago

@FMOx: Those are fierce! Good-looking men in beautiful, elaborate outfits. (Mostly. I’m side-eyeing Mr. Cuba.)

masque d'etoiles
masque d'etoiles
2 years ago

@Full Metal Ox – these costumes don’t precisely qualify as the brain bleach needed after this particular post, but they are a compelling diversion, and as such are thoroughly appreciated. Fierce indeed!

(Although I find Mr. USA bears an unfortunate resemblance to the dissolute eldest son of his nation’s former president – thereby ending a sublime display of pride in cultural and personal identity with a jolt back to brutal reality, at least for me. Quel dommage.)