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MRA: Sperm is superior to ovaries because sperms have to swim while the lazy ovaries just lie there eating bon bons

So the Men’s Rights activists on Reddit are having a big discussion of how unfair it is that male sexuality is demonized while female sexuality is glorified. (Try telling that to any girl who was labeled a “slutin high school.)

The discussion has taken a strange turn, as many discussions among MRAs do.

ignatztempotypo -3 points 1 day ago 
Eggs vs sperm. Do the math. It all stems from there.

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[–]Jolly-Hovercraft1568 1 point 1 day ago 
The sperm moves, the eggs don’t

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[–]Spencer2091 1 point 1 day ago 
The egg has to flow down the fallopian tubes from the ovarie and reach the uterus.

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[–]Jolly-Hovercraft1568 3 points 1 day ago 
Flow. Doesn’t move on its own

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[–]Spencer2091 2 points 1 day ago 
No, but the fallopian tubes push it. What is your point? That sperm are superior because they have a flagellum? I'm more confused than anything.

Spencer goes on to point out that, genetically speaking, the sperm and the egg contribute equally to human offspring.

Exactly. The human race is dependent on both males and females. The sperm doesn't have a more active role than the egg. It's not the only source of DNA.

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[–]Jolly-Hovercraft1568 1 point 1 day ago 
OH GOD. Which one swims to the other? That’s the point he was trying to make

OP Ignatz returns to assure his MRA colleagues that he’s not trying to say the sperm is superior, but … *cue Ancient Aliens guy.*

As are, Ignatz thinks, men:

ignatztempotypo 1 point 1 day ago 
Not superior, just have a very different function in life. As I mentioned below, males do pretty much ALL the societal work. It is all in service of "the egg". Once the female is pregnant, everything changes. Ask any man what happens after the baby is born.

These are patterns of natural behavior as old as time. They're not going to change in a few generations.

I'm not saying I'm happy with any of it. I'm just more and more aware of it the older I get.

Women get away with all the crap they dish out because there are enough simps out there to come rushing in to their defense in hopes of getting some female attention.

It's pathetic as hell.

Just my opinion folks. No need to downvotes. If you disagree, say something...

When Spencer points out once again that “conception is dependent on all parties equally,” Ignatz concedes that, and then basically un-concedes.

Ignatz then suggests that pregnancy is also passive.

The 17th century called, they want their “science” back.

As I was writing this post, I began to feel a sense of deja vu, as if I had written all of this before. And, it turns out, I sort of have — the last time I ran across a Reddit misogynist suggesting that ovaries are just lazy lumps compared with the highly athletic sperm.

‘Scuse me while while I cut and paste what I wrote them:

At the tail end of the 17th century, after the invention of microscopes allowed scientists to see those little swimming spermies for the first time, the smart set of the day decided that these vigorous little fellows just had to be the real source of life on earth.

I quoted biologist Robert D Martin writing in an article in Aeon,

[P]hilosophers and some students of reproduction [held that] the egg was merely a passive receptacle waiting for vigorous sperm to arrive to trigger development. And sperm? The head of each contained a tiny preformed human being – a homunculus, to be exact. The Dutch mathematician and physicist Nicolaas Hartsoeker, inventor of the screw-barrel microscope, drew his image of the homunculus when sperm became visible for the first time in 1695. He did not actually see a homunculus in the sperm head, Hartsoeker conceded at the time, but he convinced himself that it was there.

Luckily, we know better now. Or at least some of us do.

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Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

@Elaine

If it helps, a teammate of mine just had a round of Omicron a few weeks ago. Since he was fully vaccinated, he just had a week where he felt awful, but didn’t require hospitalization. He’s back to normal now. I hope the same is true for your in-laws.

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
3 years ago

@Elaine: the family that somethings together somethings together. If they’re vaxed, they just need rest and fluids and something for fever and sore throat. It’s mostly just annoying; having a bit less brainpower than usual and tiring more easily is frustrating but tolerable.

I prescribe chicken soup, sleep, and mindless leisure.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
3 years ago

Speaking of Covid, am I the only here who hears the word omicron and thinks that variant should have the side effect of turning people into Transformers? To go along with the vaccine effects of improved WiFi, superpowers, and 5G reception?

Or is that just me?

Queen of the Harpies
Queen of the Harpies
3 years ago

@Redsilkphoenix

I think of Lrrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei 8. Seems fitting for a destructive virus.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
3 years ago

@Redsilkphoenix:

No, I think my spouse has had similar thoughts on the name.

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
3 years ago

I’ve had all 3 shots (and ready to get another booster whenever needed), and might possibly have had omicron over the Xmas-New Year’s period, and I still have no 5G, magnetism, Lrrr-ness, or have become a Transformer. I wouldn’t want to become a Lrrr or Ndnd, and the magnetism would be annoying if you couldn’t turn it off, but 5G would be great, and so would having the flexibility of a Transformer. (Beast Wars, preferably.)

Full Metal Ox
3 years ago

@Redsilkphoenix:

Speaking of Covid, am I the only here who hears the word omicron and thinks that variant should have the side effect of turning people into Transformers? To go along with the vaccine effects of improved WiFi, superpowers, and 5G reception?

What I’d like is the ability to speak in three-part harmony; I can’t say that I ever followed Transformers consistently enough to qualify as a fan, but I was utterly fascinated by G1! Soundwave’s voice.