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Kyle Rittenhouse acquitted; open thread

I think we all saw it coming, but it’s still infuriating. Discuss.

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Full Metal Ox
11 days ago

Not only is straight white conservative Gentile cis male rage the only sort that doesn’t come with a ready-made demeaning trope attached, but it’s sacred.

Alan Robertshaw
11 days ago

Imagine if politicians, TV pundits, and social media commentators could be as sympathetic to innocent black boys as they are to guilty white ones.

Cygnia
11 days ago

…and right now, there are women who killed their abusers who are still rotting in jail…

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
11 days ago

So, it’s reached the “Bleeding Kansas” stage, has it?

Less than ten years to all-out war then. Unless that fucking virus gets us all first.

Ninja Socialist
Ninja Socialist
11 days ago

In unsurprising news the Proud Boys are calling for violence. I hate to imaging what they would have done if they’re guy lost.

Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
11 days ago

As I was saying in a Facebook comment earlier today: the jury dropped the ball on this one so hard they punched a hole in the courtroom floor.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
11 days ago

This entire trial was ridiculous. The prosecution didn’t seem to have a ghost of a chance, the Defendant’s lawyer got to say the most ridiculous things, and the Judge was clearly biased towards Kyle Rittenhouse. I only wish that if this person goes around thinking it’s okay to kill again that he is caught before he hurts anymore people physically.

Snowberry
Snowberry
11 days ago

Since this is an open thread and I already commented on the Rittenhouse situation in the other thread… I’m going to say that I spot-watched the US House pre-vote hearing on Build Back Better, which wasn’t actually voted on until the next day due to Kevin McCarthy being a supremely petty jackass – people initially assumed he was trying to delay the vote until well after midnight in order to accuse Democrats of passing it “in the dead of night”, but nope, he was trying to beat the world record for longest speech given in English. (He did.) And also, apparently, to give a big middle finger to Jimmy Carter as if Carter was his political nemesis or something. (Carter has not been a politician since McCarthy was a child.)

It passed, incidentally, but still needs to clear the Senate, which is considered low chance.

But mostly I want to comment on the objections to BBB from other Republicans. They were all over the map, and contradicted each other. I forgot who said what, but the more amusing ones were essentially: [Not direct quotes]

The CBO (Congressional Budget Office) claims that it will cost 1.7 trillion and make back 2 trillion over time (plus or minus a few billion) but they are incorrect! Instead, it will cost 4.5 trillion and earn back zero! I will now hammer this point repeatedly and refuse to provide a source for it.

It will really cost 3 trillion, not 1.7 trillion, thanks to additional indirect costs, and despite the CBO it’s not at all clear how much money it will make back. Even if it made back all of it, why spend money only to make it back when you can just… not spend anything in the first place?

This is a tax on the poor and a giveaway to the rich. It’s too conservative. The American people won’t stand for it.

Rich people will gain benefits which they don’t need, which is unfair to poor people. (The benefits in question apply equally to everyone.)

This will force everyone to buy an electric car, making gasoline prices unaffordable. (Who wants to tell him?)

This is a “vote for it and see” bill. No one is allowed to know what’s in it until it passes. (All of the others that I saw made claims which, true or not, they could only reasonably make if they had actually read it.) (Well, except for Lauren Boebert, who made no real claims and was mostly ranting off topic.)

Allandrel
Allandrel
11 days ago

Since this is an open thread: Fascists (in the US, notably 4chan Trumpists) who don’t understand the concept of satire have a history of viewing the fictional setting of Warhammer 40,000, particularly its Evil Empire, the Imperium of Mankind, as aspirational rather than the “nightmare future” and “cruelest, most bloody regime imaginable” that it is sold as.

Recently, a participant at a Warhammer tournament in Spain showed up wearing blatant Nazi symbols, and not only did the organizers not throw him out, when people refused to play him, instead of rematching those players, the TOs counted them as “conceding” and awarded the Nazi full point, enabling to place 8th in a 700-person event.

Games Workshop, the British company that produces Warhammer, has issued a clear “Nazi Gamers Fuck Off” statement, and made it clear that events that kick out Nazis will have their support, while those that allow this crap can expect withdrawal of official sanction and support.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/19/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/

danielrigal
danielrigal
11 days ago

What are the prospects for a civil action against him?
Is there any possibility for action against the judge who utterly failed to conduct the trial fairly?

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
11 days ago

@Ooglyboggles:

I only wish that if this person goes around thinking it’s okay to kill again that he is caught before he hurts anymore people physically.

Poetic justice would be for him to start another fight whereupon someone shoots him in self-defense.

ACTUAL self-defense.

Gerry Sherry
Gerry Sherry
10 days ago

Suddenly remembered the fps nazi game where you shoot “sjw” goons but there is a 0.001 chance of a nearly unbeatable boss in the form of a genderless figure that represents all minority groups at once. It just show that deep down they fear us.

Gerry Sherry
Gerry Sherry
10 days ago

Have you guys seen lil nas x on the Maury show with his boyfriend and boyfriend’s wife? It’s great

numerobis
numerobis
10 days ago

Has Rittenhouse gotten a show on Fox yet?

Anyway, just more confirmation that it’s legal to kill people in the US. Just make sure to threaten them with death first.

Kevin
Kevin
10 days ago

@ danielregal

I was wondering about civil lawsuits too. I rather hope that Rittenhouse has realized he may not be off the hook yet, and has plenty of sleepless nights over it.

Gerry Sherry
Gerry Sherry
10 days ago

Numerobis don’t you have to be 18 to have a show on fox?

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
9 days ago

Yep. 18 or lower. Strict IQ requirements there at Fox.

Dalillama
8 days ago

@numerobis

Anyway, just more confirmation that it’s legal to kill people in the US. Just make sure to threaten them with death first.

It’s legal for white guys to kill leftists and PoCs in the US. Note that when a BLM activist shot a nazi who was threatening him he was gunned down by a Federal death squad.

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
8 days ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59378571

Definitely not terrorism. Because it’s a man mass murdering women again and “little girls flying through the air”. Can’t be terrorism against women. His domestic abuse charges were unrelated.

numerobis
numerobis
8 days ago

Dalillama: you’re right, I was far too broad with my characterization of the US legal system.

Xennial Dot Warner
Xennial Dot Warner
7 days ago

@numerobis: No, but he got interviewed by Fcker Carlson and bleated a platitude about supporting “the BLM movement.” If his Proud Boy buddies throw him under the bus for that, I’m gonna laugh.

Nequam
Nequam
7 days ago

This is hilarious for the wrongest reasons. (CW: more than a bit of transphobia)

https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1462107598983991298?s=20

Lizzie
Lizzie
7 days ago

@alanrobertshaw
I was thrilled to read about the Romani vampire hunters because my own godchildren are boy/girl twins and were born on a Saturday! They definitely don’t know of their calling and I will be telling them about it on the weekend, and also the oddly specific requirement to start wearing their underwear inside out.