Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, one of the “activists” is planning a “digital protest” on International Male Men’s Day. He just hopes someone else will do the work for him.
So far no one has given him any “bullet proof proofs.” Or really much of anything.
I’m beginning to think that maybe we don’t live in a gynocracy after all.
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Surplus ninja’d me on who started the shooting, but it’s more accurate to call it the War Against Southern Atrocities.
It was all about slavery; the “states’ rights” you fuckers like to hide behind was the Southern states’ right to continue holding people as slaves, full stop.
We’re nowhere near as dumb as y’all, so that bullshit won’t fly here, you fucking ignorant shitstain.
Besides, why take credit for your ancestors fighting in wars? My maternal grandfather fought in WW2 – does that mean I get to be the scion of a proud family too? Or does pride in men’s achievements only pass down the male line?
Which reminds me, today is Remembrance Day…and speaking of remembering things, I’d forgotten it was called Veteran’s Day in the U.S. Thanks, @.45!
I wonder what Worked All That Out would think of my life situation.
I hope it would upset him.
I bet I would find him as physically unattractive as he is morally unattractive. They’re connected obviously but it’s nice to point that out.
@Elaine
Hugs!!!!
Just the other day, I passed a road construction crew that had two women.
”Low status” backbreaking work also includes a large number of traditionally female jobs, like nursing, daycare, retail, teaching, waitressing, and factory work (aka sweatshops). If you think those professions aren’t demanding and at times physically hard, clearly you’ve never done any of them. Women make up 20% of farm workers. And let’s not forget all the unpaid labor women are expected to perform around the house (childrearing, cooking, cleaning, caregiving)
Men and women both work hard. That isn’t even up for debate.
Congratulations on having ancestors who sided with violent racists and slave owners? That’s not something I would brag about, personally.
It’s Veteran’s Day in the US and most of us blue collar workers get the day off.
Not I. I still have to clean elementary school bathrooms in a couple of hours. I’m sure you’re all sooooooooooooper astounded that a woman has the ability to be doing such work. Usually, only men have the ability to clean up poop! Just ask Worked That All Out!
@.45
Heck, one of the most important Irish heroic epics is about a cattle raid.
@ Gaebolga (speaking of said heroic epic)
I like the name “War of Treason In Defense of Slavery.”
@ WATO
Ada Lovelace, Hedy Lamarr, Grace Hopper, Florence Parpart, Stephanie Kwolek, Josephine Cochrane, Ida R. Forbes, Dr. Shirley Jackson, Alice H. Parker, Dr. Patricia Bath, Alice Ball.
You can thank these women (the last few who are also black) for the computers, wifi, gps, home heating, hot showers, and medicine that make your life comfortable. This is just a short list of things I thought you in particular might find “useful”. The list is of course significantly longer if you include contributions to what the rest of society considers useful (ie NASA’s calculations, home appliances that women stereotypically use, tools for grooming and child rearing, the arts, etc).
Imagine how much more would have been produced by women had they not been saddled with the majority of the work at home and taking care of men’s lazy asses throughout history.
Good luck, Elaine!
Stacey, hi! Good to see your phosphors.
Hi in general to everybody, even WATO (bless your heart!). I’ve been busy at work that is not backbreaking but that I still find fulfilling and contributing to society.
As for this MRA who wants people to do his data gathering for him, a line from Dorothy Sayers comes to mind:
(Ah, Gaudy Night.)
Spent 7 hours cleaning a high school today and still have time for sitations
@WATO:
Your “mayhap you have slandered me with that ad hominem” style of writing doesn’t make you look sophisticated, but like a doofus trying to sound smart. Wearing out your thesaurus doesn’t impress anybody. Clear and effective communication does.
P.S. “The War of Northern Aggression,” what a joke. Remind me, who fired on Fort Sumter: Union soldiers, or the North Carolina militia?
Maybe it’s time to start referring to them as MRIs: Men’s Rights Inactivists.
Purple prose? Check. Needs to read any history book? Check? Completely in denial about reality? Check.
Trolls have gotten so boring these days.
@VictoriousParasol
Thank you Oh! So nice to see you too!
I hope you and yours are doing well.
I’m enjoying my handsome guys and enjoying being a living goddess. I feel so blessed by my sponsors.
And by the way when not “on” and not with my guys I do clean my own space. And to keep up the body type that’s essential for what I do, it’s working out 5-6 days per week so it’s not like I don’t sweat either.
Not only is he too lazy to find the studies, he’s too lazy to defend them. They have to defend themselves.
@ StaceySmartypantsTwiceRemoved
Well, funny you should ask about me and mine … my beloved mother-in-law was in a medical coma last week due to a really nasty virus deciding her brain would be a nice place to party. She’s out of the ICU and in a physical rehab facility closer to home (which means Dad-in-Law doesn’t have to drive so far to see her), and hopefully she’ll be home soon. It’s been a time, but at least my husband is no longer worried that his mum won’t see her birthday next month. She’s in good spirits and her nurses love her. (She’s a very lovable woman.)
And to keep this a little more on topic, before she retired, she worked for NASA’s Near-Earth Orbital Debris Tracking Group, so as far as I’m concerned, she’s done her bit to prove her value to humanity.
I wouldn’t be surprised if our troll considers that a useless job on account of Space being fake.
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants
All this. I’ve worked retail for twenty-plus years and it’s brutal. I’ve paid for it physically and mentally, and the pandemic made me realize I can’t do it anymore if I have any other option. Speaking of ‘backbreaking’, I have a slipped disc and knees that are now bone on bone no thanks to the constant standing and bending. But I’m sure that if a woman is doing it, our intrepid troll will abruptly decide that instead of being rugged mayunly man work, it’s brainless drudgery only suited for a feeemale’s limited intellect and capability.
It’s amazing what possession of a vagina and/or female identity will do to a misogynist’s description and categorization of the kind of work a particular person does.
@ Fabe
*snort* Possibly? But as my MIL would joke, that team plays traffic cop for all the orbiting satellites we have – comm sats that help support cell phone transmissions, the nav sats that help with navigation, the military sats that we don’t talk about in our family, and all the rest of the bits and bobs banging around up there.
ETA: I might add, there’s a story at NASA that’s been circulating since the earliest days, about a visiting dignitary doing the tour and asking a janitor, “So, what do YOU do here?” And the janitor answers, “I’m helping us get to the moon.” Visiting Dignitary is surprised – why does a janitor believe he’s helping the USA moon mission?
And the janitor explains that he helps keep the work areas tidy for the engineers and scientists, making sure they aren’t distracted or inconvenienced by trash. So he’s helping them do their job, and therefore he’s helping us get to the moon.
I’ve never asked my in-laws how accurate that is – for one thing, they both started working for the agency after the Apollo program was well underway – but they’d agree with the spirit of the story, and it does capture the esprit of NASA when they started there.
@ Vicky P
There’s a lovely, and apparently true, story of some tourists walking the moors near Balmoral. They encountered the Queen; but didn’t recognise her. After chatting and finding out she lived locally they asked if she’d ever met the Queen. The Queen pointed to her bodyguard and said “No; but he has.”
@Victorious Parasol –
Ha, reminds me of when I told my parents that my job involved “curing cancer” – see, our tutoring centre has a contract with a cancer research team in France, and every so often I get an article from them to proofread. (It’s a bit of a headache sometimes, since I have to look up unfamiliar terms to make sure I don’t wrongly “correct” something, but in this case I’m sure the medical staff have harder jobs, especially the technicians and nurses.)
And I’m glad your mother-in-law is doing better! One of my dad’s friends had a similar infection and needed to be put into a medically induced coma, but he’s finally out of it. For a while, no one knew whether he’d pull through. Best of luck to her in her recovery!
@Stacy
Fingers crossed, so far, it’s been nothing but disappointment for months
@Surplus
Thank you, it hasn’t gone well yet
@Lollypop
I don’t know, when I take the type for early diction they normally don’t work right
Well it looks like the troll skittered off, but I did want to address this
Interesting how Working Fuck All Out is positioning himself as an oppressed man toiling away at thankless low paid labor but is also bragging about how his ancestors were unwilling and/or unable to do their own labor, so they enslaved others to do it for them. Gee, what a sacrifice.
@Surplus: Very interesting post, thanks! And since it was the manly men who did the cattle rustling, that means the original sin is, in fact, patriarchy/toxic masculinity.
@Elaine: fingers crossed!
The latest troll is tedious. At face value, he’s a Southern SWM, who gets the shit scared out of him at the thought he might actually be inferior to anyone — because deep down he knows he IS.
If cleaning houses, tending to kids, sewing, or cleaning up after the elderly and sick aren’t “back breaking and low status”, I don’t know what is. That’s low-paid “woman’s work”, and yet necessary. Not to mention picking crops and working in meat packing plants — work mostly done by PoC. Also done by women, often with children. I don’t have air conditioning, have lived without it all my life, but I need food to live and I’m required to wear clothes outside the house.
@.45: Yeah, my family includes people who have both done back breaking manly (and womanly) work AND gone to college. The two aren’t mutually exclusive; some of them there college edumacated boys worked for years in construction and mining, and their kids go to college and wait tables or do construction in summers. Dad was literally a cotton picker (and other crops) in high school before he got to college.
Or — and I am not making this up — LITERALLY shoveled shit at stables in summer. The way it’s always been, some kid with a strong back and a shovel just like thousands of years ago. Boys AND girls alike.
All these people are descended from Scottish and Irish cattle rustlers too. 🙂
@LouCPurr: my sympathies. At least it’s not high school? Love your kitty pic — torties are indeed little adorable demons. (I miss mine so)
I like to call it “The War Against Traitors, Racists, and Losers”. That flag they love more than the US flag (literally the opposite of the US flag!) is “The Flag of Traitorous Racist Losers”. “Losers 1861-1865”.
@Vicky P: Peter and Harriet, the OG OTP. And I hope your MIL continues to improve.