It’s probably not a shock to learn that Roosh V — former-PUA-turned-Orthodox-Christian — is a COVID “skeptic” who railed against the COVID vaccines and refused to wear a mask. He once dismissed fears of COVID as “a girl thing” and “gay.”
Meanwhile, his Roosh V Forum is abuzz with conspiracy theories outright misinformation about COVID, with Roosh and his remaining followers warning about the supposed dangers of the vaccine, which one follower denounced as a virtual weapon of mass destruction designed to cause literal genocide. Other followers have been sharing tips on resisting against coronavirus laws and where in the world they might go to avoid the allegedly tyrannical lockdowns,
Well, in one of those ironies we see so often today, Roosh has now caught “a flu-like illness” that strongly resembles COVID — by which I mean that there’s a near 100% chance he’s got COVID. And frankly it sounds awful.
“Friends, I’m in bad shape,” he wrote in a post on his forum yesterday.
On Thursday I came down suddenly with a flu-like illness of muscle pain and weakness. For several nights I could hardly sleep and the symptoms progressed to include diarrhea, sore throat, fever, headache, runny nose, coughing (mostly dry), loss of appetite, inability to concentrate, and some brain fog.
Yikes. That sounds a lot like a case of COVID.
I was traveling when it hit so was not able to start a suitable treatment plan (or even eat properly). The illness never got better. I felt like my whole body was being poisoned, and that I could not fight the poison on its own. I had never been sick like this in my life.
Five days after infection, I finally made it home, but a new symptom developed. When I would try to take a deep breath, my lungs would feel a sharp stinging pain and then I would be forced to cough violently. This required me to breath shallow and minimize my movements. When I came home, I took my temperature and it peaked at 104.7 F. My pulse oxygen was 93%.
Yikes again. Dude, I think you’re going to have to admit you have a serious case of COVID.
Naturally he’s turned to the horse paste for relief.
I happened to buy some Ivermectin over a month ago, so I started a regimen. Within 3 hours of taking it, I noticed a slight improvement in my breathing, and my pulse oxygen is now 94%-95%. I’m also taking Vitamin C, Zinc, and Vitamin D. I’m still in rough shape, I can hardly walk a couple of steps, but I hope to turn the corner in the next day or two.
Yeah, I’m not sure that’s going to happen, bro.
Please pray for me!
Alas, that form of treatment is no more effective than horse paste is for humans.
I wonder if this experience will cause Roosh to reflect on his wrong and terrible beliefs and actions. Probably not.
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If we can believe him, Roosh was traveling when he began to feel sick. He probably DID infect other people. A fever of 104 F sounds really bad to me.
COVID is notorious for its ups and downs. People feel like they’re recovering, then they get extremely ill, again. It wouldn’t surprise me if he winds up hospitalized.
Having an oximeter in the house is really no stranger than having a thermometer or blood pressure monitor (I have all three). Nowadays, an oximeter costs almost nothing, and is about the size of a box of matches, so why not?
Unless you happened to buy a horse, this is not something to admit without embarrassment.
He’ll probably survive, but with a good chance of lasting effects. The latest thing I’ve read is that some COVID survivors develop diabetes, because the virus does a number on your pancreas.
For reference, my girlfriend (who has a blood clot in her lung they are working on dissolving) has pulse oximeter she checks periodically, and she will vary from the mid-eighties (bad) to upper nineties in the course of a few minutes, depending on how she is breathing. So I don’t know that a couple of % on two readings a day apart means much.
@doormousing it:
Any fever over 101 can cause brain damage (EDIT: NOT TRUE, sorry for getting this wrong. It can be harmful, but it doesn’t directly damage your brain), if it lasts long enough. At 104, though, the amount of time needed to cause brain damage is substantially less. Not a doctor and I don’t know all the cutoffs or time requireds, but generally with a fever 101.x without taking a fever reducer (aspirin, tylenol, etc.) a doc will tell you to take the fever reducer and ride it out, since the meds will probably take your fever down by more than 1 degree. Above 102, though, and your doc might very well tell you to make an apt or go to the ER. And that’s 102.x. At 104.7 it’s hard for me to imagine that a doctor wouldn’t want you to go to the ER, even if that temp was pre-fever reducers.
In short, I’m not the one to ask about exactly HOW BAD a fever of 104.7 might be, but I can definitely confirm that it is bad. Really bad.
(Just to be sure I wasn’t misremembering, I googled it…which I guess I should have done first. The Mayo Clinic basically says get medical help immediately for a temp of 103. Several other websites, such as this one confirm that at 103 you should get help immediately, though they’re all a bit non-committal about exactly what kind of help is necessary at that temp. The Mayo Clinic seems to think that seeing your doctor is enough, other places say go to the ER if you hit 103.)
@Crip Dyke: Roosh must be delirious, with a fever that high. I’m not joking here. I remember, as a child, running fevers less than that, and being delirious from them. Isn’t it especially dangerous for adults to run high fevers? That’s what my mom & dad told me?
I didn’t even know what a pulse oximeter was. I had to look it up.
I will not weep on his death, one of the most self inflicted thing who ever happened, even if the ideal case would be him recovering and starting to take COVID seriously.
Oddly, we still have some Ivermectin in the house, not got round to chucking it yet. Of course, we actually had a horse for years.
Poor sod died of sheer old age last year – and his last act was to was trying to throw me one last time. Gentle as a kitten with the kids and the missus, total demon with me. Wouldn’t have had it any other way. 🙂
@ threp
moregeekthan
I’m so happy she survived a pulmonary embolism, the miracles of modern science! My very best for her recovery.
As people have pointed out on other sites, Ivermectin is prescribed to humans in places… for exactly the same reason it’s prescribed to horses: as a de-wormer. It’s just that things like ‘River blindness’ aren’t really all that common in the northern hemisphere. (Onchocerciasis, aka river blindness or Robles disease, is in fact treated with Ivermectin when it affects humans.)
So referring to it as ‘horse paste’ to dismiss it is wrong. The reason it’s useless isn’t that it’s only a medicine for horses; the reason it’s useless is that it’s a medicine to kill worms, not viruses.
And because it’s a medication that tends to stick around in the body rather than being passed through, it’s really easy to overdose on it. The dose for a human is a lot smaller than the dose for a horse because of body mass, and the actual dose for a human for treatment of river blindness involves two measured doses six months apart.
Basically Ivermectin should always be taken with medical monitoring because it’s really easy to overdose and poison yourself with it because it takes months for it to flush out of your system. And while there has been some evidence of a mild anti-viral effect, there’s no way to get it to the concentrations required to have that anti-viral effect without overdosing and poisoning yourself.
@Kat
I had the same initial reaction. A guy who posts about being in a Polish jail just to mess with his readers wouldn’t be above lying to them about Covid.
The symptoms sound accurate, though. The part about feeling like your whole body is being poisoned…that’s dead on.
@Moggie:
I read yesterday about a Covid survivor who developed “restless anal syndrome”. I don’t know what that is, but I don’t want it.
Covid can also cause erectile dysfunction and lowered fertility in men, so that may affect Roosh’s future plans to father 10 children and become a patriarch (though that was already jeopardized by the pre-existing condition of his hateful, flyblown personality).
Why lie like this? Ivermectin is a medicine for humans, and there is science that supports further investigation into the treatment. Are you anti science, ivermectin denier?
you reap what you sow and all that.
i have sleep apnea. without my cpap machine my ox sat plummets into the low 70s.
not fun.
got the astra zeneca vax. first shot i had INTENSE reactions with a fever of over 39C.
and, for some reason only the lower half of my body hurt, with my pelvis hurting the most.
if i react like this to the vax, i don’t want to know how i’d react to the real thing.
A new Herman Cain nominee!
I also bought a pulse oximeter the first few months of the pandemic. Seemed like a reasonable thing to get, all things considered.
Way too optimistic if he means recovering fully. Maybe not so much if he means starting to feel better.
As for the Ivermectin: read a description in a book once about a couple who caught a parasite and the treatment for it made them sick for three days: diarrhea, nausea, weakness. It worked, but why do that to yourself if you don’t have to?? Trends can be very, very weird.
I had a fever close to 40C (about 103 F) when I was 23. Some flu bug (not actual influenza, no respiratory symptoms) was going around. The family I rented a room from then had a 4-year-old, who probably gave it to me, but luckily she didn’t have it bad – threw up a couple of times, that was all. But I hadn’t had a fever in years and it hit me hard. I wasn’t delirious, but the second day, when it was the worst (thus the temperature-taking), I felt dizzy whenever I stood up. Not fun! Extra-strong Tylenol helped, though.
@Alan Robertshaw
Alright, I’ll bite since no-one else seems to want to. Why does that ladder have to stay there for hundreds of years? Heck, where is it, and all that fine stuff.
Victorious, pulse oximeters are pretty cheap online. There’s one in my house because we have two with asthma and one with heart issues in the family. Because of the aforementioned heart/lung issues, we of course got our COVID vaccines, too, unlike Mr. Rooshie.
Ladder can’t be moved because of stubbornness, it seems. Not that the ladder is stubborn. For longer more complete answer, google ‘immoveable ladder religion’.
So he’s obviously got Covid, or else he wouldn’t be taking the horse paste. Even the horse paste enthusiasts don’t take it for colds or flu, so he might as well have put up a neon sign saying “ROOSH HAS RONA”.
Eagerly awaiting news as to whether or not he’s now a female or a homosexual. Not that either group would want him.
I had a fever of 102 and change during a very bad flu, and if the fever reducer hadn’t worked, I’d have been at some medical facility ASAP. After that I started getting flu shots, because I’m capable of learning.
My SIL raises horses and you do NOT want to hear her comments about people who’ve bought up all the meds she needs for her critters.
@Lumipuna: Indeed, I would like that too. As would my other-sorts-of-Orthodox friends. Sorry, Armenians, I know you’ve suffered, but unless he changes his name, you’re stuck with him.
@Threp: Donate it to other horse owners, who are probably running short? Or create a fake identity and sell it to MAGAs for a really overpriced cost? Nah, find someone who’s got livestock and give it to them. Horses, cows, pigs, whatever.
@Alan: I shall return here in 12-18 hours, and will remain in suspense about the religious ladder till you explain!
That ladder….
It’s at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.
Because of the various splits in denominations over the years, the church is now jointly owned by six different religious groups.
Under a treaty from Ottoman times, no-one can do anything at the church unless all factions agree. That includes moving any item there. And of course, they never will agree; just on principle.
But all the talk of Armenians and the Orthodox Church reminded me of it. They had a big punch up once when someone moved a chair into the shade.
On the subject of misfortune befalling blustering manbrats: the bereaved of Sandy Hook have won their defamation lawsuits against Alex Jones, largely because of the latter’s refusal to cooperate with the court:
http://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/us/alex-jones-lawsuit-sandy-hook.html
Funniest thing to me about that place is that none of the various Christian denominations trust each other, so the keys to the place have been held by the same Muslim family for the past century or so.
Given that Roosh is a lying liar who tells lies, it’s also possible that he’s vaccinated, perfectly healthy, and fund raising off this.
Or maybe not. I really hope he wasn’t walking around, highly contagious, for five days. But that would also be completely in character.
Anyone know if he has health insurance? I know the vaccine is free, regardless, but are tests free? Is treatment free?
Even if he’s really suffering, I have far more sympathy for all his victims, and the victims of his diciples.
@Alan: Thanks for the bit about the ladder. I feel it’s not a good advertisement for Christianity.
@ shiela
No. But at 300 years old and still working, it’s a good advert for the ladder company.
@ threp
Yeah, I love that. They’ve had the key (singular!) since the church was rebuilt in the eleventh century!
One of the family has to go down every morning at 4:00 a.m. to everyone in.
(I just have visions of him telling them “Behave!” as they go past.)