Got the blues? Blame the Jews.
At least that’s the argument of one conspiracy-minded incel, who thinks the (((people who run the world))) want the rest of us alone and lonely — and ready to buy lots of consumer goods to take the edge off our misery.
“It’s actually pretty obvious why (((they))) want to create as many incels as possible,” writes someone called RetardedChinlet in a recent Incels.is post.
Imagine of the sheer amount of joy and satisfaction that a happy relationship with sex, affection and companionship provides. What is the problem for k*kes here? Normal, healthy relationships are free of charge and outside (((their))) direct control.
“Free of charge?” There are a lot of ways that things are more expensive for singles than people in couples — rent per person, for one thing — but eventually most “healthy” relationships end up producing kids, and kids end up costing a lot more than it costs to raise, say, a couple of cats.
If (((they))) were to destroy the culture of monogamous relationships, (((they))) would be left with sad and depressed people that would need to find the their joy from products and entertainment (((they))) provide.
And monogamous couples don’t spend money on products or entertainment?
This is a goal (((they))) have wonderfully been able to attain via mainstream media, Tinder, Instagram and so forth.
Er, how exactly?
I sure as shit eat unhealthy food, watch (((their))) films, play (((their))) games and browse (((their))) websites to cope with my loneliness and frustration.
Aw, don’t sell yourself short, my man. You also write terrible antisemitic rants on Incels.is, which doesn’t cost you a cent.
I’m the perfect fucking consoomer for (((them))) and this is possible entirely thanks to the fact that I am unable to find a female to spend my life with, a problem which (((they))) are behind. Lonely people are the best consoomers.
Ok, dude, but how exactly are (((they))) able to undermine your love life? I’m guessing it’s your less-than-charming personality — on full display in this crude, bigoted rant — that’s scaring off the ladies, not the Jews.
But if the Jews were actually trying to destroy your love life, I can’t say I would blame them. No woman deserves to have to put up with your bullshit.
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Capitalism never ran across something that it didn’t want to monetize, but ironically monogamous relationships have the potential to be just as stifling and able to deprive people of companionship as being an “incel”. You’d be surprised how much the anarchists have written on the subject- if you want an introduction, Emma Goldman’s “Marriage and Love” is a good start.
Pfft. Everyone knows that you need a three person polycule to live comfortably.
Companionship and having teh sex are not always the same thing, jerkface with appropriate screen name (since only terrible people still use the R word, and everything else signals he’s a garbage person).
Okay, but dating – including monogamous dating – involves quite a lot of movie watching. Isn’t this pretty well known?
Wait. Is Tinder not a way to find a relationship ? Does it not come in contradiction with what he said just before ?
It is totally possible to be alone without being lonely. It does, however, involve not being a general asswipe.
If being alone is the problem, how would “a female” help with that? Does he imagine that you are never alone during a relationship/marriage? I know someone who got married (twice) without first being able to be comfortable alone with their own thoughts. It isn’t going well.
@Anonymous You don’t have to go to the Anarchists. 90% of Boomer Humor TM is about how marriage is being trapped in a loveless relationship with someone you hate.
@occasional reader:
Perhaps, perhaps not. Keep in mind that for any dating service, every time wedding bells ring that means two customers immediately become ex-customers, so their incentive will be to keep customers’ hopes up but try to make sure each gets at most a string of flings that never develop into anything more lasting.
Notably a few other categories of business have the same inherent conflict of interest. Consultancies, for instance, and therapists. If the customer’s problems are actually solved, they stop being a customer.
I don’t see any easy way to remove such conflicts of interest in these fields short of doing away with the profit motive entirely, i.e. socialism.
> Surplus to Requirements
I hear you.
But if two persons left the application after a happy date (wedding or not), is it not a good advertising for the application ? Something like “See, our appli is working well, those two become an item”. They may lose two customers but earn (win ?) more than two if the appli seems efficient.
After, i am no good at selling anything so i can not tell if this is a good commercial tactic or not.
@ surplus
That seems a little harsh on therapists. Some of my finds are therapists; and I find them to be hard working dedicated professionals who just want the best for their clients. I am of course interested to hear what people’s experiences of therapy might be though.
But as to your general point. Until recently* word of mouth was the biggest factor in people choosing legal services providers. So it is in my best interest to do a good job. A happy satisfied client is doing my marketing for me.
I am very open about that though, as I say here (first video)
https://www.coachhousechambers.com/civil-litigation-videos
As for socialism; I’m all for state help; but….
Now legal aid has been replaced in most legal areas by things like contingency fee agreements (i.e. ‘no win, no fee’). So people can shop around, and as you only get paid if you win; that’s a pretty big incentive to do a good job.
Although the downside of that is lawyers end up acting as gatekeepers, so there’s access to justice issues. But if a lawyer won’t take your case then it’s probably not a case you should be running anyway.
OK, aside from equating loneliness with incels, I’m pretty sure seething the resentment and violence encouraged by the incel community doesn’t really translate to being the perfect consumer.
Also, I fear the answer, but what is a ‘chinlet’? I know they use manlet for short people, and I’m hoping he’s just insecure about his chin. But given he’s an incel, I fear racism is the more likely meaning.
There are all sorts of hobbies besides sex that bring people great joy with minimal to no commercial outlay. I like writing. One cheap notebook and one cheap pen and I’m happy.
Another friend is happy with drawing paper and a set pencils. Books. Walks along the beach or in the forest (OK, that’s only cheap and easy if you live in the country.) Free online courses. Cat snuggles. I know there are people who can’t have a pet because they really afford cat food, but they’re not usually the ones ranting on the internet.
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I think the thing they miss is that relationships require work to be rewarding, unlike easily accessible things like Netflix or whatever.
It’s kinda like wanting to join a gym to move more when you don’t currently do any exercise. You know that exercise can be rewarding and the gym can facilitate it, but it still makes sense to go for a walk every evening before shelling out on a membership because if you can’t commit to the walk, then you are definitely not going to go to the gym.
If an incels life is one currently filled with bitterness, spewing hate online, watching tv and playing games, then jumping straight into the state of relationship is not going to change anything. It won’t make them more dynamic, or less hateful, or likely to do other things. There’s a thousand things a person can do to enjoy themselves while single that isn’t only consuming media, and they can’t be arsed even when they only have themselves to worry about. Which would be fine if they didn’t endlessly moan about it and displace the blame.
Without learning the basic tools for being self sufficient and content, the work of a relationship is simply going to be beyond them. All they’d do is be bitter and miserable while ruining someone else’s life in the process. And obviously they’ll decide it’s all their partners fault somehow.
@wwth
From my experience marriage as well includes a lot of movie watching. but also I like movies so.
@surplus
with all due respect I think you might not have gone to the right therapist. I haven’t needed to go to therapy for a while now but it has really helped me in the past. Helped me deal with my pstd and work through all my trauma and the drug addiction I once had. Life doesn’t stop until we are dead so that means problems won’t stop so a person may want to have a professional to speak with at a another time. for instants, I might want to talk to one about my increasing problems with conception. But for the most part therapist do really want you to be better, they do want to help you. they want to be part of your support tools even if you are paying them or insurance is paying them.
This is off-topic, but I was just reading r/hermancainaward. Looks like Roosh may have COVID. He doesn’t mention the word COVID in his tweet, but his symptoms certainly sound like COVID to me. IF you can believe anything out of his mouth is another question.
Regarding therapists; I’ve gone to rather a lot of them over the course of my youth and young adulthood, and my take is that they are about as effective as you allow them to be.
When I lied to them or hid things from them, they were absolute useless; when I was deeply, painfully honest and open, they ranged from okay to almost frighteningly effective.
Fwiw and ymmv
@Battering Lamb:
Also, I fear the answer, but what is a ‘chinlet’? I know they use manlet for short people, and I’m hoping he’s just insecure about his chin. But given he’s an incel, I fear racism is the more likely meaning.
”Chinlet” does indeed refer to chin insecurity; the (self-applied) terms I’ve seen for Asian incels are “MRAsians” and “ricecel” (see also “currycel” and “beancel/tacocel”.)
@hammerofglass
I know, but they’re the only ones who ask the question of why relationships have to be monogamous to be rewarding. I don’t know if I could manage it myself (let alone encourage others to do so without looking like a sleazeball), but it’s a good ideal to work towards if nothing else.
When did Twitter, Tinder, Instagram, online games and etc. become cumpulsory?
Stick it to the man, Mr. Chinlet, and hie thee to YouTube where you can learn to make all manner of cool things. Check out CrafsMan (my current fave), put you some gloves on, and take your pick of non-feminine crafts to learn for cheap. Just don’t look at the recommended videos and you’ll be fine.
Also re the industries that probably want you to fail, let’s not forget the weight-loss industrial complex!
Speaking of anti-Semitism and general entitlepantsedness: antivaxxers in Canada are now equating sanctions against the unmasked and unvaccinated to the Holocaust—which always somehow conveniently manages to have existed once Gentiles want to hijack it as a metaphor:
https://answersfromvanaheim.tumblr.com/post/663432116496957440/sonicrainbooms-hmmi-love-making-fun-of
@FullMetalOx: Thanks for clarifying. I am familiar with the other terms you mentioned, but you never know what fresh hell they open up with their screeds. Glad my suspicion was wrong in this specific case.
On the topic of therapists, I’ve had about 6 throughout my life, of varying quality. Sometimes a specific therapist just doesn’t work for you. That’s fine. Looking for a new therapist can be exhausting and anxiety-inducing, especially if you had bad experiences before. But a different one can make all the difference. Please keep looking for one if you struggle, if you do find one that works for you it can help so much.
Imagine of the sheer amount of joy and satisfaction that a happy relationship with sex, affection and companionship provides.
Except when these incels talk about their ideal relationships it’s all about them dominating and abusing their partners.
@Hambeast: and the quit-smoking-industrial complex.
@Elaine: What magic insurance is this that you said covers therapy? It sure as hell isn’t OHIP. In my experience, therapy is in the same category as personal lawyers, Mercedes-Benzes, McMansions, weekly maid services, fiber to the door, backyard swimming pools, home theaters, and 30-foot boats: luxuries of the upper middle class, particularly the ones who like to cosplay as actually-rich on weekends.
@FullMetalOx: American anti-vaxx shitheads were way ahead of them.
https://nypost.com/2021/05/28/hat-shop-selling-nazi-like-yellow-stars-as-not-vaccinated-patches/