In the secular NoFap movement, participants talk all the time about fighting their demons — pornography and masturbation — but they’re only speaking figuratively when it comes to the demon bit.
In the Christian NoFap subreddit, the regulars often talk about demons. But they mean it literally: they believe that real live supernatural beings — sexy female demons — are trying to seduce them, during their waking hours and even more sneakily, in their sleep.
Let’s take a look at some of what they’re up against.
We’ll start with a fellow called Lopsided25, who is afraid that his “addiction” to animated succubus porn will send him straight to H-E double hockey sticks.
So basically I’ve been watching porn since my friend showed it to me when I was 7, its been going on for a very long time and I’ve developed a severe porn addiction.
I’ve been getting bored of some genres and decided to check out some ‘different’ stuff. This different stuff happened to be animated Succubus porn.
Uh oh!
I’m baffled at how stupid I was that it took this long for me to come to realize that porn and masturbation has seriously interfered with my life and my bond with God and Jesus Christ. Will watching porn, masturbating and in particular watching animated Succubus porn because succubus is related to hell send me to hell?
Uh oh times infinity.
This is scaring me and is also interfering with my daily life that I can’t continue doing anything without being seriously bothered by this. It would also be great if I knew that animated succubus porn won’t send me to hell because succubus are related to hell and watching a pornography of it is probably a lot worse.
Are you kink-shaming yourself?
I’ve stopped for a while and I’m trying very hard to stop any urges. I need advice to stop this, how to ask for forgiveness, and help to completely stop the addiction. This is not a troll post, I’m asking for serious help.
I dunno, dude, maybe just … stop jerking it to Succubus porn. I mean, is it really that hard to give up such a specific genre of porn? How much succubus porn is out there anyway?
Not that the particular choice of genre matters, at least according to this next guy, TheNaivePsychologist, who thinks all masturbation is demonic, whether it involves Succubus porn or not.
Sex is the symbol and act of union. You cannot have sex without unifying with another being.
When you have sex with a pornographic video, you are uniting with a demon. You are joining with a sexual fantasy not of God and opening yourself up to an evil supernatural partner. These beings are ravenous spirits with the unquenchable needy void for God that cannot be filled because they’ve cut themselves off from God.
Aw crap.
On the other hand, if you are married and have sex with your spouse that is also a Christian, in a very real sense you are not just unifying with your spouse but also God – who dwells within both of you. Unifying with God is unifying with the infinite being from which all good things and reality spring. There is no hunger in God, only overflowing love, peace, serenity, and every good thing.
Choose what beings you unify with carefully.
What if you don’t have a Christian wife? Uh oh again.
But perhaps the scariest of all the demonic scenarios is the one sketched out by mokesesh, who reminds us that even if we stop masturbating altogether the demons can still get us in our sleep, And even then it’s basically our fault.
“Wet dreams are demonic,” he warns.
In my experience, if I go to bed without reading scripture, or asking for the Lord to protect me from dark spirits in my sleep.. I find myself having sexual ‘attacks’ in my dreams. This is to say that even the urges you may have day to day are because you are not seeking the Lord but instead going throughout your day trying to get things done yourself, and not by the grace of God. If you really want freedom from sexual immorality, humbly ask him to set you free and he will swiftly answer.
I don’t know about any of this. It seems to me that if God didn’t want us to masturbate he wouldn’t have given us hands and/or the ability to use simple tools. As long as you manage to refrain from jacking it during Zoom meetings at the New Yorker, I think you’re going to be fine.
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The only safe sex is a wholesome threesome with a Christian husband, wife, and God.
Can’t wait to hear about the prostate, etc. problems they have from their brainwashing keeping them from even nocturnal emissions.
And their epic ED if they ever do find a Christian wife.
@Tabby: if you have Jesus and the Holy Spirit, then it’s a fivesome!
A medieval scribe tore himself away from drawing fart jokes in the margins of the text he was copying long enough to transcribe a letter from the middle ages to the Christian no-fappers: Medieval Christians would like it if 20th Century no-fappers would kindly stop infringing on medieval Christian archaic attitudes toward sex.
Until now I didn’t realise “animated succubus porn” was a thing. Having taken a look, I managed to fight myself free from demonic possession pretty easily.
OTOH “animated penguin porn” is a real menace.
Let’s not be so hard on demons. After all, Lucifer was once an archangel. And nobody is beyond redemption. I figure that I can use my feminine wiles to save a demon or two from their devotion to evil.
“they believe that real live supernatural beings — sexy female demons — are trying to seduce them, during their waking hours and even more sneakily, in their sleep.”
Damn. Why can’t these sexy female demons seduce me? Why do they always pursue sexphobic Christians? Do they enjoy a challenge? Is that it — am I too easy?
I know that “when you have with a porn video” means masturbating to porn, but I couldn’t help picturing a dude trying to stick his dick in one of those little holes on VHS tapes.
Dangit, all the obvious jokes have already been made. 😛
Anyway, another reason not to get a baptism. I don’t really feel like inviting God (or the entire trinity) into my bedroom. God’s a bit judgmental for my liking.
After the “Ghost in the Machine”, the “Demon in the Video”. I can not wait for the “God in the Coffee”, the “Bat in the Belfry” and the “Devil in the Details”.
Edit : and i forget the “Tomato in the Mirror”. My bad.
@WWTH:
And then twirl it around to rewind.
As for the “wet dreams are demonic” guy, that makes me sad and angry. It makes me think of adolescence (the last time I had a wet dream). Adolescence can be a confusing and shaming time, and the last thing kids need is Christians teaching them that their perfectly normal horniness will send them to eternal punishment.
@ Moggie
This may sound weird, but in all my 30+ years, I have never had a wet dream. (And yes, I have all the AMAB parts and they are perfectly functional, work just fine and all that.)
Also, in the TMI category, I once ejactulated into a urinal… but with no erection, no accompanying orgasm, and absolutely no warning. I walked up to do my business as usual and boom.
*pause*
“Wait… what just happened???”
I guess it was a sex demon. Being premature must have scared her off though, because she never did anything like that again.
As for the post, I feel like the more the guy goes on about how sex between loving Christian spouses is so pure, wholesome, and beautiful, the more his guilt over his obsession with anal and such comes to light. He’s just trying too hard… heheh. Hard. Heh. See what I did there?
“The only safe sex is a wholesome threesome with a Christian husband, wife, and God.”
“Since I don’t strictly approve of women, it comforts me to think I’m really boffing God instead.”
So I was having a conversation with my husband about something not exactly like this but kind of on topic. I will occasional watch porn, but the thing I really enjoy is smut fiction for my masturbation material. my husband does not understand this at all. He always needs something visual to look at and when we were having this conversation I found out that my husband can’t imagine images in his head. Like if he tries to recall just in his head what I look like, he doesn’t see an image of me in his head, he can imagine my voice, smell my perfume, picture running his fingers through my hair, but he can’t physically picture me unless he’s looking at me or a photo of me. I can imagine a whole different person in my head while reading a book and fantasy places. he can’t do this.
I was just wondering how many other people are like this. and it’s making some of the differences my husband and I have make more sense. I really love to read, I have books in a wide arrange of topics. When I read to me it’s not that much different then watching a tv show because I can imagine images in my head. My husband has some types of books that he enjoys and he will read any of the work I make. But he doesn’t enjoy it all to the same extent that he does say a graphic novel or a tv show. That makes a lot of sense to me if when he reads all he see’s is the words and having an understanding of what those words mean but not able to put the whole fantasy world into view.
@Elaine the Witch
There’s actually a term for this! It’s called aphantasia (although like so many things, the phenomenon is more accurately described as a spectrum of ability in mental visualisation).
I’m not all that familiar with the research on it, so I can’t say how common it is, but this is definitely the kind of thing where there are basic cultural assumptions about what people can do, and most people just assume their experience is universal (leading to a lot of miscommunications), so it’s not a thing that gets discussed much and people don’t find each other. (People on the aphantasia spectrum often talk about having assumed “mental images” were a fancy metaphor, rather than an actual experience.)
I’ve suspected for a while that I’m on this spectrum myself, though not at the full extreme; I think at least some level of aphantasia is probably a lot more common than most people think (but, again, I don’t have numbers).
Edit: also, thinking about it… I’m not aware if there have been any studies on whether it correlates with gender or sexuality at all, but I wonder if the “men are more visual than women” stereotypes could stem from unidentified aphantasia in some of those men?
What’s especially wild is that there are visual artists with aphantasia. Here’s one:
https://youtu.be/ewsGmhAjjjI
I don’t know how that works! Another example is “Uncomfortable” (Irshad Karim), the guy behind the drawabox.com online drawing course: not only has his aphantasia not stopped him working as an artist, he’s taught countless people how to draw.
I’ve only ejaculated in my sleep twice (during sexual dreams, of which I also get very rarely). I’ve always assumed it doesn’t happen if you otherwise ejaculate fairly regularly.
@Moggie
It’s quite straightforward, really. It’s not that we don’t know what it’s supposed to look like, after all. I know this is going to sound strange, but drawing hasn’t got anything to do with visualization necessarily. I can’t do it very well, but that’s cos I haven’t practiced enough with my hands; I’m accounted quite good at image manipulation and digital art. It works on a similar principle to the old crack about how one sculpts an elephant: You just get a chunk of marble and chisel off all the bits that don’t look like an elephant. With drawing it’s additive instead of subtractive is all.
I’ve probably got some mild form of aphantasia myself… but I still love to read. In my case the ‘inability to visualize’ is more a generic image thing, but I can visualize abstract 3D rotation easily and I’m just fine with thinking about sounds, it’s only the ‘visual’ part of visualization that doesn’t work for me.
(I joke sometimes that some people have photographic memories; I have a phonographic memory. Songs get stuck in my head way too easily, but it also means I can often recognize someone by voice faster than by face.)
I should probably try audio books at some point. Haven’t yet, but they should probably work for me fairly well.
I can visualize, but my internal monologue when I’m thinking in words is so much clearer to me than any visual picture. Yet I have extremely vivid dreams almost every night.
The idea that nocturnal emissions are caused by succubi is actually very, very old, so at least they are maintaining a venerable tradition.
Now, the question is: Are they also willing to blame unexpected pregnancies on incubi?
The first guy might need help from an addiction counselor. If he has a fixation he is unable to stop on his own, that’s a problem.
Have I ever got a book for these dingdongs!
I think it makes sense that visualizing isn’t necessarily correlated with artistic/craft abilities. I can tell colours apart quite easily, I make beaded jewelry and batik cards, but I have a terrible memory for colour.
Like, there’s a community centre called the Yellow Door near McGill, and I didn’t remember its name, so I was trying to describe to someone what it looked like. “It has an unusual colour door,” I said. “Red, maybe?” And then I remembered the name, so I realized it must be yellow. But I didn’t remember it being yellow!
I’ll stick this here as it seems the most appropriate thread.
A rather interesting approach to challenging Texas’ bounty hunter anti abortion law.
Self described “disbarred and disgraced former Arkansas lawyer” bringing a ridiculous and rambling claim; purely it seems, with the intention of losing. Although he has said “If there’s money be had, (he) might as well have it“. That might be intended to highlight the capricious nature of the statute though.
https://bustingthefeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/1_ComplaintVBraid.pdf