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Black incel: “Release black men from the shackles of thinking black women are attractive”

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Are there back incels, you might find yourself wondering. Yes, yes there are. Are they any less racist than their lighter-skinned counterparts? Sadly, based on what I’ve seen, no.

Meet “Frank Jack,” a black incel who wants men of all races to hate black women as much as he does.

“Release black men from the shackles of thinking black women are attractive,” he declares in a post on the incel-friendly forum Looksmax.

Niggas will straight tell you in they face black women are hot and gods gift to the world and expect you to take them seriously. Black men need to stop pro creating with black women. They need to stop talking to black women. They need to stop acknowledging black women existence all together. Black women are ugly asf and are the reason why the black race is in the hole that it’s in.

One commenter wonders how he squares this opinion with his own blackness. “Well, black men do need black women If there’s to be any more black men,” he writes. “You’re black, aren’t you?”

But Frank Jack isn’t worried about a “black genocide.” In fact, he sort of likes the idea.

“I’m fine with the black race being near extinct,” he says. “I’ve already said multiple times we need a black Holocaust.”

A black man calling for a black Holocaust. I didn’t expect to run into that today.

But it’s not as if he hates all black people:

I Love black men and hope every black man succeeds in life. I despise black women and hope they all die alone and bitter.

In another comment he fantasizes about black men “fucking and pro creating with white women to create the mulatto cosmic race.”

When someone suggests this would “dilute” the black race, Frank Jacks says he doesn’t care. “Anything that stops black women from existing is fine by me,” he writes.

Since most incels don’t like even thinking about black women — they tend to agree with the OP that black women are ugly and terrible — the conversation turns to a subject that is genuinely controversial among incels and the incel-adjacent: the appeal, or lack thereof, of Asian women.

Another black commenter calling himself SigmaDONkek declares that

black woman are horrid as are 99% of white women I only phuck asians with my BBC

(He’s not referring to the British Broadcasting Corporation.)

Turns out Frank Jack is not a fan of Asian women. “100% of Asian women are horrid,” he declares. “Asian women’s only personality trait is trying to copy white womens personality.”

In a followup comment, he knocks white guys with Asian fetishes:

White men who like Asian women are just ugly white fucks who can’t get white women so they resort to getting the cheap ass knockoff versions of them which is Asian women. No self respecting white man would ever be with a Asian woman

A white commenter called wanttobeattractive goes even further with his hatred of Asian women:

asian women are little disgusting gremilins that wish they were white

asian women should be shipped back of to asia and be banned from the west and keep to there own race

little fucking cretins

In a followup, he specifies what in particular he dislikes about Asian women, which turns out to be almost everything.

name one good thing about asian women

worst bodies, the worst languages and accents, worst personalitys, worst faces, will create incel sons, most self hating and race betraying

they have no place here

Remember: These guys have somehow convinced themselves that it’s their looks, and not, you know, their hateful personalities, that are making it impossible for them to get dates.

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Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
1 month ago

Oh, there’s that dog, Beyonce! That’s sarcasm, of course.

My first boyfriend was an avowedly racist white man. (What can I say? I was barely 20 years old when this incident occurred, and this was a different era.) I remember him arguing with a non-racist fellow white dude, about whether he would sleep with an extremely beautiful black woman, like the young Whitney Houston. This was circa 1987, so yes, Whitney Houston was young then. He insisted he wouldn’t. I wondered, though. Anyway, what my then-boyfriend had to say about Whitney Houston was so offensive, I’m not going to repeat it here.

Suzanne O'Donnell
Suzanne O'Donnell
1 month ago

What an awful person. No wonder he’s an “incel.” What sane woman would want to be with a guy like this! “Incels” just have something wrong with them.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

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Seth S
Seth S
1 month ago

sometimes I wonder if some of these supposed nonwhite incel accounts actually are real and not sockpuppets. I’m sure SOME of them are, but I tend to think a lot of the blatant racist toxicity tends to chase away a lot of nonwhite incels and cause them to go be misogynistic in their own subculturally unique ways.

I mean, IF this was a sockpuppet post – I have no proof – then it wouldn’t be the first time a white person got caught pretending to be Black on the internet. Dean Browning, anyone?

Last edited 1 month ago by Seth S
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
1 month ago

A white commenter called wanttobeattractive goes even further with his hatred of Asian women

I have a suggestion about your attractiveness. Yes, it’s true that right now you’re repulsive. You’ll get no argument from me. Here’s what you do: Drop the hatred. Right there, your attractiveness will increase by quite a bit. Yes, this might be a challenge. Outside help might be required.

gijoel
gijoel
1 month ago

@ Seth S The Isla Vista shooter (no I’m not going to use his name) had an Asian mother. He was also as racist as fuck. Incels do this weird cognitive dissonance thing were they belong to what ever group they think will get them the most sympathy and/or prestige.

Steph
Steph
1 month ago

I can honestly say, sadly, that the vast majority of misogynoir I have witnessed or been subjected to is from black men.

Also black incels are depressingly common.

rabid rabbit
rabid rabbit
1 month ago

I’ve got bad news for you, Frank Jack. White racists are still going to hate your “cosmic mulatto race” and not let you into their clubhouse.

Last edited 1 month ago by rabid rabbit
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
1 month ago

“Release black men from the shackles of thinking black women are attractive.”

I’m gonna need a lot more details:

Who is shackling these black men’s thoughts?

How do they capture these men’s thought processes?

Why do they enslave black men’s thinking?

Who will release these black men from thought enslavement?

Why would they release them from thought enslavement?

epitome of incomrepehensibility

What is this nonsense. Just what. Yeah, incels’ looks are the problem. Sure.

Also, I’m getting flashbacks to the whole “white genocide” bullshit. People’s descendants having a different skin colour than theirs is not genocide! Unless there’s actual genocide involved! But let’s hope this guy only means he wants children with lighter skin than his (even though that’s pretty racist itself) and doesn’t do violence to any black women. Not that I’d want him around any other women either.

By the way, thanks for the people who replied to me about reusable masks. I emailed the student union campaign manager. Ideally, it would be nice if the university gave out free double-layer cloth masks like the STM (bus & metro system) did, but I know I don’t have a whole lot of influence.

Auful
Auful
1 month ago

@ Seth S

Oh no a black INCEL! how could this be! Only honkeys can be incels reddit told me this…

I doubt a white incel larping as a black person would encourage black men to “pro-create” with white women.

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
1 month ago

Welp, the black genes of this guy certainly aren’t going to be passed on, so… mission accomplished?

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
1 month ago

Black women can be every bit as beautiful as any other women; and this includes African women, specifically, and not just darker skinned women with “westernized” hair or facial features or whatever. I don’t know what that guy is smoking, but he evidently has never seen this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=equatorial+guinea+body+painting&tbm=isch

Apparently an annual event they hold there. Men participate too but the search results skew heavily to women, no doubt because of the male gaze among the photographers, publishers, and others involved.

As for horrible personalities, the only Black woman with one that immediately springs to my mind is Candace Owens …

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
1 month ago

There’s an African-American YouTuber named Tommy Sotomayor.
I just stumbled on his channel awhile back. It was awhile ago, but he seemed to have an unhealthy obsession with black women getting weaves in their hair. To me, he seemed really presumptuous – why should it be any of his business what women of any color choose to do with their own hair? He also used the term “nappy” to describe natural Black hair. I thought that was an offensive term.

Anyway, he was critical of Black women getting weaves, but he didn’t like their natural hair, either *shrug*

Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
1 month ago

Dormousing_it: I frankly would be very happy to never hear the name “Tommy Sotomayor” again.

Lakitha K Tolbert
Lakitha K Tolbert
1 month ago

“Release black men from the shackles of thinking black women are attractive.”

Cuz trust me ain’t nobody (especially the white supremacy they adhere to and like to parrot) outchere trying really really hard to convince Black men that Black women are attractive. The only people championing the attractiveness of Balck women are Black women and men and women who love them. The culture at large isn’t doing much of anything to push that idea!

This is also in answer to the question of Black people being racist!

Yes! They can be racist…towards each other,

because plenty of Black people (especially in America) imbibe a lot of the white supremacy ideas about Black people being essentially worthless. We drink that Kool Aid all day every day, but some of us like to make money off that Kool Aid (Tommy Sotomayor, Larry Elders, Candace Owens…)

Actually, the very first time I encountered this very specific brand of self-hate, was in a movie my mom and I watched when I was a teenager, called A Soldier’s Story, in which a Black military officer is virulently racist towards the Black men under his command. My mom did tell me that there are in fact Black people who are like that, and then I never gave it any more thought until the Youtube era.

Last edited 1 month ago by Lakitha K Tolbert
Battering Lamb
Battering Lamb
1 month ago

@Dormousing_it: And here I am, looking in stunned admiration at the amazing hairstyles black women have developed to style their hair. Seriously, there is such diversity and creativity in their hair styles.

And then a white woman gets praised for copying it. Ugh.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
1 month ago

One for the “how dare people have opinions that are different from mine + racism”.

@Surplus
That is some impressive body painting, thanks! Though I suspect that someone who thinks being black is a bad thing would make something of the fact that they’re covering their natural skin colour.

Hambeast
Hambeast
1 month ago

Somebody should tell these chuckleheads that no one is required to find anyone else attractive. Especially the other chuckleheads that want to tell them that all “X” women are ugly and horrible. And oh-by-the-way, so are all “Y” women because they want to be just like the “Z” gals that they think are maybe okay because the only examples of ‘peak woman’ are found among them but most of them suck, too. But not in a good way.

Honestly, it just seems like incels want to narrow their cohort of acceptable women to around a couple of dozen select individuals while complaining that all women aren’t like that. It’s such a self-destructive cycle. Which would be sad enough, but they want to spread their destructiveness, too.

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

Some of the most beautiful women I have ever seen are black women. the most beautiful woman I had ever seen was my freshman year of college. there was a young woman who was super tall, probably a foot taller then I was. she was so thin, but not like in a way that she had a kind of problem, she was just slender and her legs were like a mile long. and she had the darkest black skin I had ever seen. Like when I say she was black, she was black. and her skin was flawless.

I almost walked into a wall looking at her because it was like looking at someone who was unreal. I didn’t think a human could be that beautiful, if a sunset was a person, they would look like her. her face was beautiful, she was just gorgeous. I didn’t talk to her because I would have just started at her but it was the only time in my life, that I looked at a person in aw. I have looked at things in nature with awe but never a person.

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

@Dormousing_it

I don’t know, a couple of my years of college I had three black roommates and they would describe their natural hair texture as nappy. I just figured that was the term for that type of hair that as the really tight coils of curls. I didn’t understand that it was a bad term though because one day when I was watching my roommate do her hair she talked about her “nappy looking ass” and I asked what nappy meant, and then I said ” I think it’s beautiful, you’re hair is like magic, it defies gravity!” but I’m also someone that gets excited when I watch a movie set in the 70s and people have afros.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
1 month ago

The Romans used to pay a large premium for Ethiopian (which covered pretty much anyone from the horn of Africa, really) slaves, because of their beauty.

I’ll not be arguing with them – though if they’d ever made it far south enough to meet the Tswana, they’d have likely bankrupted the empire.

Guy doesn’t know what he’s on about.

Steph
Steph
1 month ago

@Elaine The Witch

Using “nappy hair” to refer to your own hair is one thing.

Using it to refer to somebody else, especially strangers is something else. I have Afro hair and would never use to the term “nappy” to describe my hair or that of others.

Plus Tommy Sotomoyer is a well known misogynoirist. So him using the phrase is highly problematic.

Mexican Hot Chocolate
Mexican Hot Chocolate
1 month ago

Oh, god. As a “funny looking” mixed kid who’s almost 1/3 Filipino with a half Black, half Italian-American girlfriend, I don’t know what’s worse the hatred of Black women or the hatred of Asian women. It’s all so sick. Reading the portion of the post about hating Black women filled me with empathy for what every Black women go through every god damned day, whether it’s racism and misogyny from white men or misogyny from Black men. Reading the portion of the post about hating Asian women brought back the awful sense of dread and disgust and sadness I felt from the news stories about the rise of hate crimes towards Asians and the mass murder of Asian women at those Atlanta area massage parlors. Any one of those victims from any of those hate crimes could’ve been a relative of mine.

Anon
Anon
1 month ago

Is that you, Clarence Thomas?

NNH
NNH
1 month ago

Yeah but you didn’t need to pull this out of the sewer and give it attention. No one cares what some random dude thinks, this is just an excuse to give sunlight to hatred. Next time skip it. If there are real threats out there, i.e. incels threatening violence, expose it. But leave this garbage in the tip, nobody needs to read this shit.