No, The Psychopathic Edge is not an unflattering nickname for the guitarist in U2. The guy who goes by this moniker is a pickup guru with several self-published books to his name and more than three times the number of Twitter followers than I have.
He likes to share his insights about men and women on Twitter. This is his pinned tweet:
He also tries his hand at memes, though he doesn’t seem to have realized that they’re supposed to be funny.
But mostly, he tweets. But going through his tweets I realized fairly quickly that he’s not necessarily as creative as he is prolific; a lot of his tweets simply repeat points he’s made in earlier tweets.
Also, he’s sort of obsessed with animals. Like lions:
And wolves:
And (more so than either lions or wolves) sheep. He’s really obsessed with sheep, especially when they are being eaten by lions or wolves.
How obsessed is he? Let’s roll the tweets. Lions first.
At this point it’s safe to say we understand the basics of his teachings. But it’s not clear he understands the basics of lions. Because lions don’t eat sheep. I mean, sure, they’re lions; when they get the opportunity, they’re happy to eat sheep or just kill them all in a frenzy. But they rarely get that opportunity, because they don’t live near large supplies of sheep. Mostly they eat tasty things like wildebeests and antelopes and other not-quite-fast-enough animals living in their territories.
But that’s not the only thing he gets wrong about lions.
Lions don’t actually live in jungles. They live on savannahs and grasslands. I mean, you’ve seen those Planet Earth shows right?
So what animals do eat sheep on the regular? In the US, coyotes and dogs eat more sheep than all other animals combined, but wolves are occasional sheep-eaters as well. So Psycho’s obsession with the eating habits of wolves makes a little bit more sense than his lamb-lion deal.
Dude, I hate to break it to you but that’s not a wolf. Or a sheep. It’s a tiger.
Dude, dude, that is also not a wolf. It’s a lion. Do you even know what wolves look like?
Ok, that looks like a wolf.
Sometimes Psycho can’t decide if he wants to be a lion or a wolf — so he goes for both.
Hey, it’s tough being the the NUMBER ONE APEX ALPHA PREDATOR in the room all the time; sometimes it’s hard to remember just what kind of APEX ALPHA PREDATOR you are. Not that it matters. Anything with lots of scary teeth and claws and eyes on the front of the head will probably do just fine. Let’s get out there and hunt those sheep!
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Not to be that person, but lions and wolves are both social animals with complex group interactions. They absolutely worry about social standing etc.
Dalilama,
I was just going to make the same point. It’s pretty hilarious that he would pick animals that live in packs and prides as examples of animals that dgaf about what others think. Predatory absolutely does not mean antisocial!
Although I guess it is telling. Because these dudes, as obsessed as they are with women (sheep in their analogy I guess) don’t really care how we perceive them. They’re performing for each other. Their pack or pride of other misogynistic men.
Lions and wolves that eat sheep get shot by pissed off shepherds.
Humans, mainly.
In fact, while the relationship between farmer and domestic sheep is not a very good model for human male-female relationship, it’s perhaps closer than the relationship between unaffiliated predator and prey.
The Beta buys their mutton processed from a grocery store, or perhaps directly from farmer.
The Alpha, just like a wolf, just goes to the farm and kills a sheep, without asking for the farmer’s approval.
It’s chilling that he can’t tell the difference between having sex with someone and killing and eating them.
This guy named himself well, really. Seems like he might have took a few steps over based on the screaming.
But is he the most dominant woman/non-binary/other? Is he really the most dominant then? I fought off two rapists by pure brute force before (not at the same time), so you really can’t say much just by being the most dominant man in the room.
Lioness do the hunting, the male is just the sperm dealer for making more cubs, infact if a lion can’t keep up with a lioness sexual desires, she bites him on the balls to make him perform. So if the metaphor is correct if you don’t satisfied your “sheep” she’s going to bite you on the balls repeatedly till you do.
@Threp
that’s what happened to the thylacine, even though they weren’t eating the sheep, the ranchers just thought they were.
@Big Titty Demon
Wow wow wow. I am impressed. Also, I don’t care that you’re a demon. You are my new role model. What is the name of your YouTube channel?
It always snags at my brain, their obsession with men’s sexual peak vs women’s sexual peak. Like it just feels like selling a lie to people, and I hope to god no one gives him money for his advice.
I actually agree to shouldn’t panic in your late twenties because of an arbitrary number and self-imposed timeline for “settling down”. But the thing is dating just doesn’t seem easier for 35 year old men than 25 year old men. And while maturity adds a certain allure to ALL beautiful people (Gillian Anderson springs to mind) there isn’t a magic age where all men become conventionally hot. In fact, the only transition for PUAs hitting their thirties is that the 19 year old girls they are chasing stop calling them a creep and start saying they are an “old creep”.
Believing anything otherwise is, as the incels would say, a cope.
@Dalillama : I would also say I want theses people to be like the alpha wolf, AKA not actually existing.
Do we know of self doubt in animal ? It seem pretty natural that some or all would have that, given they do have anxiety, but it’s probably harder to find a way to see if it’s self doubt specifically.
… any experiment to check that would look horrific tho.
You know, when I read the title caption to this entry, I assumed that the subject was going to be a followup to the previous entry, except about sheep rather than dolphins.
I mean, that would make sense, right? Sheep have had a long, storied, and often hilarious history as surrogates for human women. I’d honestly expected that to be the subject. Instead it’s about some person who misunderstands lions, lupines, and women even more than the average lamb-molester understands sheep.
At least he’s not bringing in the capybara. Folks round here might really get upset if he started ragging on the cute fuzzy bricks.
Animal abuse: never hilarious.
Agreed with Kat. Especially because the Foreign Legion exist and their relation with goat isn’t actually hilarious.
(pretty much nothing is hilarious with the foreign legion, granted)
It’s always fun when people like this go gon and on about how men need to live their lives outside of the society’s expectation, not realising that the whole thing seems to hinge on everyone else still living according to those expectations. What would the legendary jungle lion man do if women stopped being sheep?
@ Dalillama, weirwoodtreehugger
I thought of the exact same thing. I don’t know if it’s old information, but I’ve read that wolves are most efficient at hunting when they’re doing it as a pair, and mostly hunt as a pack so that the younger ones (the pair’s cubs) learn how to do it. While wolves can certainly hunt alone, they’re often less successful and in any case can’t bring down anything big.
Okay, so this whole “don’t conform” thing is pretty clearly aimed at neurotypicals. I have never in my entire fucking life been capable of conforming to social norms without a great deal of conscious effort, and in many ways, that really, really sucks.
You know what happens when a kid isn’t sufficiently sheep-like? The other kids treat you like shit and try to beat you up. And it goes on for years, never ending. It’s the kids who force you to fucking conform more than the adults.
And we’re not fucking lions, or wolves, or sheep, or any of that shit. For animals our size, we are ridiculously slow, pathetically weak, and remarkably fragile; the only reason we are an apex predator is because we operate in packs and can communicate abstract thoughts, which means we don’t have to relearn how to do shit every generation. That and we collectively killed off everything that ate us for food, and still do.
The kind of bullshit the OP is talking about got your ass killed back in the days when the collective we was much less insulated from the bloody engines of nature.
Basic fucking neurotypical moron.
FUCK societal expectations about belly scritches.
A cat doesn’t give a FUCK what anyone thinks.
A cat sleeps most of the day, gets food and worship for free, and poops wherever it likes.
BE THE CAT.
I have a feeling the author in question is a troll. It’s just too ridiculous not to be a satire of
PUA. That or that dude has found a fantastic grift selling motivational ramblings to insecure assholes who dream to be all powerful, but are incredibly average.
IRL, this guy is either a sex offender, or a loser who over-compensates online. Either way, not a good life coach.
@epronovost
Nah he’s serious. This sort of POV is not uncommon in my experience; this guy is only unusual in saying the quiet part out loud, and not trying to rationalize it to himself (e.g. “all women like being dominated, they just don’t say it”).
I don’t have much to add beyond that really. Men like him make me actually-seeing-red levels of angry, and that makes it hard to stay coherent and/or appropriate.
@ dali
So are sheep for that matter.
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170418-sheep-are-not-stupid-and-they-are-not-helpless-either
Sort of related.
The RAF had a plane called the Vulcan bomber. It was originally designed for high level flight. However developments in surface to air missiles meant that they became vulnerable to being shot down. So they changed doctrine to low level infiltration. But the altimeters on the Vulcan weren’t especially accurate at low level (it was the same altimeter as the Lancaster bomber).
So the pilots started using sheep. They would observe the sheep’ reactions as they flew overhead.
If the sheep ignored them they were too high.
If the sheep ran away they were too low.
If the sheep just looked up at them, they were about the right height.
So, he wants men to be more like lions?
He wants them to run on all fours and eat raw meat?
I’m worried…
@Alan : similarly, *chicken* are highly social and much more intelligents than it seem.
AFAICT, all mammals have the basic layout to be reasonably social. Something like a fox or a tiger can rather fast learn to remember friendly face or trained to live with reasonably close animals. Accidents can easily happen, especially with the tiger, but they have everything they need to not do that, and the problem is more that we don’t communicate with them very well.
An easy example is how domesticated cat, who are close enough from wild cats to interbreed, actually are social animals with lion-like behavior (in regard to other cats at leasts), while the wild one are solitary and don’t like to interact with their neighbor
(contrast to, say, scorpions who are much less able to form an organized group without a lot of evolution on that direction. Albeit I would be careful to not call a scorpion less intelligent than a cat without first being very careful about defining intelligence)