Here’s a creepy bit of copypasta i found crossposted on the MGTOW subreddit and the incel-infested Black Pill Club site. It’s a little apocalyptic fantasy envisioning some variety of “WW3” tearing down our allegedly lady-dominated society and putting “strong men” in charge again.
“We need WW3/something really devastating so strong men can take back western society,” the post begins.
Its no secret that western society (so far, its likely that other the rest of the world will be feminist soon as well) has been ruined by feminism and all sorts of degeneracy.
Ah, “degeneracy,” that favorite Nazi dogwhistle.
Men, especially straight white men are villified and get no respect. Everything is blamed on the “evil” patriachy. Lots of men are brainwashed into believe the whole women being oppressed narrative. I won’t even get into the lgbt+ degenerate bs here.
People are ungrateful to men who build and made the US and in general the west so powerful.
WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH, er, sorry, “built and made the US” to feed you!
And things will only get worse. We have had it too easy in the west so people in the past few decades (and now with social media it has only gotten worse) became focused on dumb shit like feminism.
We’re living in the midst of a pandemic that has already killed more than ten times the number of Americans who died in Vietnam. Fascism is on the rise worldwide. I’m not sure things are quite so “easy” as you think unless you live a pretty cosseted life.
We need real problems, maybe WW3 or something else that is devastating so people grow up and appreciate men again
You really think you’re the grown up in this scenario? You live in a fantasy land.
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@mousesparrow:
Here, have a drop spindle. That’s something easily portable (and a utilitarian fidget/stim toy, if that’s something you need) that you can be doing by rote in any unoccupied moment, generating thread for the weavers and knitters.
@oncewasmagnificent:
My dad used to line up all our friends (primary school age) at the dining table to help with cutting and peeling, pushing and poking fruit into jars for preserves during summer holidays. (Seeing as those friends continued to visit they must have enjoyed it.
Sounds as if your dad turned your friends’ visits into a preserve-making bee (and thus got them personally involved in the origin and preparation of their food, and fostered a sense of community.)
@mousesparrow
I started out with a Turkish drop spindle, then switched to a spinning wheel once I knew I wanted to spin more frequently and had saved up the money for it. I am a barely adequate spinner with a spindle, but I’m a very decent spinner with a wheel. It’s all a matter of which fiber art tool will work for you.
@oncewasmagnificent:
Not really. The Chinese simply boiled their drinking water because they drank it as tea when they could get it and hot and comforting but plain when the tea ran out. (Though I’d expect they did the usual poor people thing of reusing tea leaves over and over again.) Boiled water = less water borne disease.
And the Chinese folk theory underlying that was (as far as I understand it; anyone with an actual Chinese upbringing or other grounding in Traditional Chinese Medicine is welcome to jump in and amend/correct me) is that a cold beverage would dump an unhealthful degree of yin shock into the system. There’s also a general feeling that hot water is Good For You:
https://www.cheng-tsui.com/blog/hot-water-in-chinese-culture (Note that the majority of diasporic Chinese during the Gold Rush and railroading era came from the Guangdong region in the south—also the reason that Cantonese cookery, in a mutated form, was the first to register on the Euro-American cultural radar.)
But Chinese wouldn’t have a basic character meaning “cholera” (霍,huò) if they were magically immune.
@moregeekthan
Old thread, but in the interests of keeping people from dying and the full picture…
re: nightshade
Aka Deadly Nightshade: White flowers/black to purple black small berries in clusters. the 100% fully ripe berries are not lethal to healthy adults, but they aren’t too tasty either. But for safety they should be thoroughly boiled. They can be mixed with sugar to make a jam; the jam process destroys toxins. It tastes like a cross between blackberry and blueberry, with a hint of tomato. The irony is the “deadly nightshade”, isn’t so much deadly, but will upset the stomach of people with nightshade/solanae allergies.
Bitter Sweet Nightshade: small red berries in clusters/small purple flowers- mildly poisonous(upset stomach) and too tasteless to bother experimenting with cooking IMHO
Belladonna: Medium light purple or greenish bellflowers/ large single sticky black berry. Also called Deadly Nightshade some places. THE LEAVES CAN KILL YOU. In fact all Nightshade leaves, including tomatoes, are toxic to some degree. Now FULLY RIPE Belladonna berries are slightly sweet and edible IN SMALL QUANTITIES. But they contain Atropine in addition to Solanine(sp?). They can knock a person out for a couple hours if they don’t have an atropine resistance. Unfortunately, I don’t know of anyway outside a lab to test for this. I only found out I am resistant because I was in a situation with no health care, serious pain and a knowledge of herbs and nothing to lose.
CHILDREN SHOULD NEVER EAT THE RAW BERRIES OF ANY NIGHTSHADE. And to be safe, I won’t even let children my nightshade jam or tarts.
NO ONE SHOULD EVER EAT THE LEAVES OF NIGHTSHADES. That includes all cultivate for food: peppers, tomatoes, potato, etc. Some poor shlub died using what he thought basil but was actually Bellodonna.
If you have an interest in wild food/medicine and foraging, you have to take it as seriously as people who study medicine. If you’re not able for that, leave it.
Okay, lesson’s over. Please don’t die.
Excuse, please, but I am stuck trying to imagine the calamity that wipes out all of civilization AND the people that built the civilization. The folks with the knowledge to build things would probably build them back in a smaller scale in fairly short order. Food production would be more focused and localized, water can be cleaned, clothing would be fashioned out of old clothing untilsmall ills were up and running, but people built all these things before and would build them again. The model isn’t zombie apocalypse, it’s rural Africa.
Bmaccnm rural Africa
Try Aboriginal Australia. Just been reading – and obsessively rereading – some excellent books on life, society, religion and agriculture/horticulture pre-invasion. (Burp, excuse me, pre white settlement.)
If everything’s been destroyed it’s interesting to contemplate organising your society around
1) no large animals which can be used as beasts of burden nor dairy products nor constant supplies of lovely rich manure. (Nor any significant number of deciduous plants to drop heavy seasonal loads of lovely leaves for composting.)
2) no metal tools for building or gardening
3) need a bridge to cross water?
a) “drop” a tree at the water’s edge by undermining the roots.
b) build a canoe by carving out the bark of a suitable tree.
… and so on ,,,
Anyone interested should start with Dark Emu by Bruce Pascoe. Not at all hard to read and he’s willing to stick his neck out to favour some not yet established research proposing much earlier dates of occupation of Australia by Aborigines. For those with lots of time to spare and a keen, dogged interest in understanding some new, quite foreign ideas, Bill Gammage’s The Biggest Estate on Earth: How Aborigines made Australia is a stunning piece of work. But it’s very hard going in some (many) parts. And there are 100 plus pages of bibliography, references, indices alone.
Which reminds me … long long ago, during the early years of New Scientist magazine I think, I read a piece referring to some research of early American settlement/invasion. A whole lot of newcomers living among the forests of the east coast complained that the forests were becoming overrun by brambles and other undergrowth. They had thought that the forests they had found on arrival – well-spaced trees producing lots of nuts for stored food and for timber with occasional clearings surrounded by berry producing plants in their sunny edges – had got that way by the invisible hand of nature/deity. All just waiting for the benefit of their ‘proper’ occupants, white folks, who needed to take no care, do no work, to ensure this bounty continued.
It simply never occurred to them that the original inhabitants came to these forests on a regular seasonal rotation to harvest berries, nuts, mushrooms or whatever and also weeded and cleared between the trees and the patches of other plants and transplanted bushes/trees or scattered seed to maintain the productivity and easy access of those forest products.
Anyone know how to follow up on this?
There’s a fun anime called “Dr. Stone” where one super-genius uses his knowledge and chains up into really big science, while training others along the way after an apocalypse kills off just about everyone.
Meanwhile I looked at 2L Coke bottles in the store today and of course you all were right — they’re slightly curvy and taller than the other flavors.
Ted:
They know they will survive for the same reason people rarely seem to believe they’re the reincarnations of flea-ridden peasants, as opposed to flea-ridden aristocrats and royalty: they’re special, so their story will be special.