Yesterday morning the actress/scientology crank Kirstie Alley must have been feeling especially judgy so she fired up her Twitter and tweeted out a series of very strange tweets attacking what she sees as a perversely permissive society.
I want to know what on earth she was watching at 6:44 AM Eastern that was “perverse” enough to rouse her to tweet. Are the Teletubbies reenacting scenes from Salo? Has the Farm Report gone x-rated?
Gotta give her points for the Caligula reference; she’s gone old school.
“Morals are guidelines for better survival?” That is the strangest definition of “morals” I’ve seen. Must be a Scientology thing.
Oh yeah, it is, along with L.. Ron Hubbard’s creepy notion of ethics as whatever is good for Scientilogy.
I don’t think I want Scientologists to be teaching kids about morality and ethics or anything, really.
Or trying to stop schools from teaching sex ed.
I don’t think you’re kidding, Kirstie. I just think you’re a little, well, the politest way to say it is that you’re a little confused. Who out there is teaching the kind of “open-mindedness” that would lead to an acceptance of pedophilia? Is this some kind of underhanded dig at the LGBTQ+ community or drag queen story hour or whatever?
I’m guessing it is, because her Twitter timeline is full of jokes about the pronouns trans folks use.
By their endlessly repeated jokes ye shall know them.
I also noticed a non-ironic retweet of Candace Owens, which is definitely a sign that your life has gone way off track.
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One of the problems with this particular slippery slope argument is that it’s never been an either/or between chastity until marriage and Sodom. A culture can be polygamous and oppose homosexuality. The Romans were cool with men having sex with underage boys but not with each other. 1950s America was in practice, tolerant of rape but despised homosexuality.
The implication that if we loosen our standards, nothing will stop us having sex with aardvarks in front of the strip mall does not hold up.
@Fraser : mostly, it’s that there is no slope to slip on. Each subject are actually pretty segmented, and the main common point between the various color of the pride flag is that they persecuted and actually pretty acceptable ; transgenderism isn’t an evolution or a conclusion of homosexuality, the two have pretty much nothing to do with each other.
Uh-oh. Looks like someone’s been dining at the SWERF & TERF buffet …
@Can Woman
It’s because she is a deluded reactionary who proports the position of anti-feminist, sex negative and outright bigoted and stranged from reality nonsense that is not predicated on logic, rationality and fact. David has been able to call out and deconstruct men of such ilk; being able to call out women who express the same nonsense positions is fair game. To assert that we can’t hold a women accountable for a nonsense position on the auspice of her position and the fact she is a Scientologist (because that’s what David is doing; the fact she is a women has no bearing on the subject, and if she were a straight, cis, het man; they would be just as called out for it) and to somehow assert that is in anyway an indication of “hating women”; is both myopic and frankly a willfully bad faith position that acts as a shallow fig-leaf for garbage positions to be left unchallenged.
Garbage, nonsense ideas are garbage, nonsense ideas regardless of the gender of the person expressing said ideas, esspiclly when they are ideas that atually negatively impact and marginalizing women.
That or the $cientologists are jumping in to support one of their own.
@jsrtheta
What are you even on about?
The MAJORITY of AFAB folk I’ve grown up with and have spoken to from all over the world say they’ve been abused/creeped on/etc by cis men from all walks of life.
Every guy I’ve spoken to in my life has admitted to wanting to get with teenagers or younger.
That mindset isn’t as rare as you’d like to think.
It’s extremely common.
@Can Woman
Lmfao, can you not?
She’s obviously anti-LGBTQ+.
“Subscribe to the new dogma.”
LOL, you mean you’re also a transphobic, homophobic asshole?
Who could have guessed?
@mouse sparrow
Unfortunately the normal idea is that once a teenage or preteen girl starts growing her first bit of boob and bleeds for the first time that she is no longer a child. So if grown adult men in their 40’s or older want to have sex with her, they aren’t pedophiles because she “obviously got a woman’s body now” and pedophiles only go after prepubescents children. (barf). Never mind I started developing breast at age 9 and got my first period at 12. I think jsrtheta may be apart of that mindset. never mind that clearly a minor has braces and acne, she’s got boobs there for not a child and totally reasonable that men her father’s age secretly want her.
@Can Woman
Criticism is not hatred. David isn’t singling out any age group or gender. In a democracy, no one is exempt from criticism, including middle-aged women. You need a much, much better argument.
It seems like every right winger feels a need to tell those who aren’t right wingers to “stick to [fill in the blank].”
I can’t say as I’m surprised, though — $cientology has a hatred of LGBTQ+ baked right into it. Therefore they over-react and go for the knee-jerk right-wing response of assuming everyone who isn’t 100% straight is a pedophile.
Because like most of the right wing, they have no concept of consent, like decent people do. Probably even less than most RW, with the bullying that goes on in $ci.
Rumor has it that’s how they keep their male stars in the fold — threatening to expose what they said in their confessions about lusting after other men. Y’all know who I’m talking about.
The only lustful expressions towards myself when underage were from SWM.
The most polite propositions I’ve had (all as an adult) were from lesbians. They took my gentle statement of being straight quite well, and didn’t immediately bolt from the conversation. I would compliment the ladies on their subtle flirting/technique, tell them I was flattered by their approach, if I swung that way, I’d be interested, and then tell them to stop wasting time with me and go elsewhere to find a lady more suitable to their needs. No apology necessary. Sometimes I’d see the woman later on and we’d give each other a “hey”. I saw one of them the next morning with an attractive woman and gave her a “hey” and a thumbs-up.