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The Week in Woke: “Cishetero Amatonormativity in the Works of Tolkien” Edition

Sometimes it’s hard to stay woke

When they’re not trying to catch Critical Race Theory and tackle it to the ground, reactionaries today like nothing more than attacking things as “woke.” What’s woke? The list changes every day, and so I’ve decided I need to track the new additions as they emerge in right-wing media and social media. I’ll be putting out these Week in Woke updates every, well, week, for at least as long as the right-wingers remain obsessed with the word.

So lets see what things are woke this week:

Children’s Television

The suppsedly evil forces ofLGBTQ are making steady inroads into television programming for young children, antiwoke agents insist. According to Andrea Widburg at The American Thinker,

Of late … Nickelodeon has been bringing [its] edginess to the preschool set, culminating, this year, in the station’s going all out to ensure that the pre-kindergarten crowd learned about pansexuals and the magical LGBT rainbow.  It must have come as a surprise to the woke college graduates staffing Nickelodeon that parents dislike the new pedophile-esque edge to the programming, because the cable channel, a Viacom flagship, has seen a 70% drop in its audience in just four years. …

Nickelodeon used Blue’s Clues & You, a program aimed at preschoolers, as the basis for a video in which … a singularly untalented man who prances about in a crude, mocking stereotype of femininity named “Nina West, sings a graceless song about a cutesy gay pride parade.  Those little ones who watched the video got to learn about lesbians, gay men, asexuals, bisexuals, pansexuals, and transsexuals.

Hey, we wrote about that here. I guess we’re on top of the whole woke thing.

Meanwhile, Christian Toto of American Greatness complains that the “wokification” of TV for slightly older children is also getting LGBTQ-ized out the wazoo.

today’s kid-friendly shows routinely address sex, gender fluidity, race, and other complex topics that some parents think their youngsters aren’t ready to absorb. They are part of a broader cultural shift, often called the Great Awokening, that includes the advancement of social justice themes in many television shows and other media aimed at older teens and adults. ….

These shows include:

Netflix’s animated series “She-Ra and the Power of Princess” featuring gay, transgender, and nonbinary characters. …

DreamWorks Animation’s “Madagascar: A Little Wild,” a series on both Peacock and Hulu, featuring an LGBTQ pride-themed episode along with a new, nonbinary character, Odee Elliot, voiced by nonbinary actor Ezra Menas. …

Netflix is preparing an animated version of “Antiracist Baby,” a book by Ibram X. Kendi based on his adult work, which teaches toddlers to confess their racism. Nickelodeon recently announced that its reboot of “Rugrats,” a popular 1990s series, will feature a single lesbian mom.

It’s almost as if LGBTQ people are … people, deserving space in the vast arena of television.

Victoria’s Secret:

The iconic female lingerie company has gone “woke,” accuses Occidental Dissent, and is taking aim at “sizeism, lookism, racism, sexism and transphobia” by replacing its famous “Angels” with a radically more diverse selection of models who aren’t necessarily even models, including athletes Megan Rapinoe and Eileen Gu, actor and tech investor Priyanka Chopra Jonas, plus size model Paloma Essler, Brazilian trans model Valentina Sampaio, and South Sudanese refugee/model Adut Akech. Some of these so-called models are even (brace yourself) in their thirties. Sounds utterly boner-crushing.

“The brand is pivoting to fat, ugly and “trans” models because it was using too many attractive models to sell lingerie,” Occidental Dissent’s Hunter Wallace complains, joking that “Victoria’s Secret in our new progressive era is that she has a dick.”

Wokeness Warriors Take Over the Pentagon

According to lawyer and former Marine officer Mike Berry, writing in the Washington Examiner, the aforementioned Wokeness Warriors are deliberately distracting the US military from its mission to protect the country, attempting to turn it into “a testing ground for social policy experimentation.”

Berry continues:

Instead of monitoring external threats, the Pentagon is on a mission to identify and remove whomever it labels as extremists from America’s armed forces. Ironically, the CEWG has yet to define what it means by “extremism.” Extremism is usually defined as the threat or use of violence to achieve an ideological agenda. But the Pentagon is now poised to expand upon that definition to include constitutionally protected speech. In other words, sticks and stones may break our bones, but words are the biggest threat.

This should be alarming to everyone, no matter their political persuasion. If the Constitution no longer presents an impediment to appeasing the woke commissars on the far Left, it won’t be long before speech that has always been protected by the First Amendment suddenly becomes criminal.

Pretty sure they’re looking for white supremacists trying to use the armed forces as a fertile ground for recruitment; these guys are generally fairly easy to identify.

Meanwhile, American Renaissance warns that the increasingly “woke” Pentagon is handing out “reading lists of critical race theory books as part of the Pentagon’s new anti-extremism and diversity training within the ranks.

No, not THE READING LISTS. We’d better ban these books before they ban us!

The Tolkien Society Goes Woke

Speaking of reading: the very serious and reverent Tolkien Society is losing the plot, John Daniel Davidson in The Federalist laments. Its upcoming summer seminar is set to feature a whole bunch of papers that, Davidson insists, would be an “affront” to the old man himself, were he here to hear them.

[T[his year, seminar attendees will be subjected to something different. Papers to be presented include, “Gondor in Transition: A Brief Introduction to Transgender Realities in The Lord of the Rings,” “The Lossoth: Indigeneity, Identity, and Antiracism,” and “‘Something Mighty Queer’: Destabilizing Cishetero Amatonormativity in the Works of Tolkien.” Pretty much the entire program is like this.

The best thing we can say about a Tolkien conference that presents papers on, say, “Pardoning Saruman?: The Queer in Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings,” or “The Invisible Other: Tolkien’s Dwarf-Women and the ‘Feminine Lack,’” is that the scholars in question do not know the first thing about Tolkien or the meaning of his work.

The worst we can say is that they hate Tolkien and his work, and would like very much to destroy it.

Indeed, how else can we account for such a conference? “The Lord of the Rings,” like “The Hobbit” and “The Silmarillion” and Tolkien’s entire corpus of writings on Middle Earth, has almost nothing to say about the concerns expressed in these papers or the worldview from which they spring. There are no “transgender realities” in the Lord of the Rings.

Ah, go orc yourself.

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banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
1 month ago

Netflix’s animated series “She-Ra and the Power of Princess” featuring gay, transgender, and nonbinary characters. …

Yeah, Double Trouble and their scenery-chewing antics are a treasure

Dalillama
1 month ago

often called the Great Awokening

By whom?

Xennial Dot Warner
Xennial Dot Warner
1 month ago

@ banned@4chan.org:

Yeah, Double Trouble and their scenery-chewing antics are a treasure

I both love Double Trouble and want to smack their mutable little face. This is a good thing.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 month ago

You cannot get the queer out of Tolkien by declaring it doesn’t exist.

Now, it’s probably not under a modern form ; but Tolkien was well learned in mythology, and incorporated a ton of old mythology in his universe. And lo and behold, there’s actually a lot of queerness of various sort in mythology.

A typical example is how Odin was scandalous because he had a bunch of feminine-coded traits. Vikings were overall very homophobic and in favor of strict tradional gender separation ; that one of their most important god treaded the line was significant.

(and it was for raw power to boot)

(can’t find Tolkien specific example because I am not learned enough in his work)

occasional reader
occasional reader
1 month ago

> Dalilama
Probably by the same people who believe in a “Great Replacement”. Strangely, when the word “Great” is used, nowaday, it is often linked to not good things. After all, Make America Great Again was already in this trend, no ?

Wokeness Warrior, a Prestige Class for Social Justice Warrior Class…

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
1 month ago

“The gays are taking away the childhoods. Now who will inherit bigotry”

Nequam
Nequam
1 month ago

@Oogly:

Malitia
Malitia
1 month ago

Ah yes. Being so outraged about children’s media you definitely watched that you can’t even get its title right (“She-Ra and the Princesses of Power” not “She-Ra and the Power of Princess”).

Oh my god the Victoria’s Secret thing… I saw comicsg@te talking about “replacing” them now that they “go woke go broke”. It’s anybody’s guess how they intended to replace a clothing company with badly drawn cartoon tits. :3

Last edited 1 month ago by Malitia
LollyPop
LollyPop
1 month ago

My brother is a Shakespeare professor and I can remember him explaining to someone, who rather pointedly asked whether Shakespeare intended to underlay the thousands of meanings and interpretations people have found in his work, that no, he probably didn’t. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t interesting or valuable. We have no idea what Tolkien might have reflected on his work if he was around today, but as a (as far as I can make out) a rather nice person I imagine he would have been not at all bothered by modern interpretations and hopefully reflective on the more troubling tropes of his writing and era.

It’s like the fans who are going nuts over the racial diversity in the Amazon series casting. It’s so weird to me that you’d ignore all the grand themes and general tone and get so invested in the idea of Easterlings and whiter than white elves.

Also re. Victoria’s Secret, all the models are still beautiful. These guys are such babies. Imagine women throwing their toys out of the pram because a men’s brand selling men’s products increased the age range and body types of it’s models.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy

Thanks for collecting these, David. I’m keeping an eye on the whole anti-CRT thing as it gathers momentum. It’s even appearing down here in Aus via a senate motion.
“We must ban this evil thing [that we can’t define] from our schools [where it’s not even being taught]!!!”

banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
1 month ago

(can’t find Tolkien specific example because I am not learned enough in his work)

The hobbits frolicking in gowns to recover from the attack by the barrow-wight?

C.A.Collins
C.A.Collins
1 month ago

@Olhmann: I know wearing cross-gendered clothing was grounds for a divorce, but if I recall several warrior tombs in Sweden proved to have women’s skeletons, so maybe they were more “pick a lane and stay in it?”

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 month ago

@C.A. I am not sure. Possibly warrior wasn’t a gendered activity for them, possibly only some specific viking subpopulations were raging misogynists, possibly they allowed people to change sex as long as they didn’t blur the line between sex.

Very few cultures were willing to throw out a perfectly skilled warrior or artisan because of his or her sex however. Modern assholes are much less pragmatic than the olden cultures they pretend to take inspiration from.

.45
.45
1 month ago

The Tolkien ones sound unreal. But I suppose that’s par for the course for these alarmist types: Find some extremely unusual thing nobody’s ever heard of and go on like it is plastered on every billboard in the country.

Hmmmm… Wasn’t the gayest thing about LOTR how Sam and Frodo acted toward each other in the movies, as interpreted by bro-dudes who only drink beer, watch football, and clap their friends roughly on the back while saying “No homo”?

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
1 month ago

@LollyPop

Your brother is absolutely correct; the audience is the artist, always. Art only exists in the perception of the audience; otherwise it’s just some words or paint or chisel marks or whatever. Being able to create something that others consistently perceive as art is a skill, but at the end of the day, artisans cannot fully control art in their own works – nor should they.

As long as you can see it in a work of art, it’s there, whether the artisan intended it to be there or not.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
1 month ago

Completely OT, but, I saw this article on the Guardian and thought immediately of this blog:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/22/rage-planes-grocery-stores-hidden-pandemic-trauma

Notice how it’s almost all men doing the raging (but toxic masculinity, and its effect on trauma response, gets no mention in the article).

TBH I also wonder if these incidents are related to the expansion of the incel movement.

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
1 month ago

Some of these so-called models are even (brace yourself) in their thirties.

Oh, gosh, no, not their thirties! As a woman in my thirties I could never relate to that and see myself in those underwear, a terrible business decision!

(I mean, actually not because they’re the most uncomfortable overpriced POS underwear ever but I digress.)

“Victoria’s Secret in our new progressive era is that she has a dick.”

While obviously offensively phrased, it’s something that this feller doesn’t seem to realise says way more about what kind of horrendous trust-breaking monster he is than anything else. If that was really the secret, it wouldn’t bother me at all, but it would hella bother me that this guy was going around telling everyone about it like it was his shit to tell.

moregeekthan
moregeekthan
1 month ago

@banned

Yes, it appears that hobbit men bathed together regularly-enough that they had specific songs for the occasion.

Moggie
Moggie
1 month ago

A Tolkien conference is a pretty esoteric thing to get performatively unwoke about. What the Tolkien Society gets up to at its events has zero impact on your enjoyment of the stories. The books will continue to exist, and nobody is going to make your interpretation illegal.

As for Victoria’s Secret, I’d heard about guys getting upset that Megan Rapinoe will be modelling for them, and I thought that was particularly dumb. The underwear is for women, and a lot of women admire her. Maybe she does nothing for your boner, but she reportedly causes a lot of ladyboners, so she seems like a good choice.

Dalillama
1 month ago

@Occasional Reader
It appears to be a direct reference to the Great Awakening(s), so it’s part of the whole “leftism and/or liberalism are tenets of a religion” schtick that fundies love to break out. I’ve just never seen fundies refer to the “Awokening” either.

@Malitia
Since these guys consider the principal value of Victoria’s Secret to be wank fodder, presumably they plan to wank exclusively to badly drawn boobs now.

Fabe
Fabe
1 month ago

In addtion to She-Ra now being ‘woke’ they are also adding He-Man to the list. The upcoming netflix series is going to have He-man going MIA and the spotlight focusing on Teela as She realizes that He- Man is really Prince Adam and learns more about Her heritage as The Sorceress’s daughter .

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
1 month ago

@Cyborgette:

The weird “forgetting” thing seems to have happened the last time, too. There have been articles about how little imprint the 1918 flu seems to have made.

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 month ago

A few days ago I saw a Quora post where someone listed “woke” movies included Predator.

Yes, that Predator. The one where even the handshakes drip testosterone.

As far as I can tell, this 1980s action-fest is “woke” because…. um… because there are PoC in major roles?

I got nothin.’

Dalillama
1 month ago

@Allandrel
They probably reckon that a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus is like a bear, only bigger and gayer.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

I’ve just bought some Victoria’s Secret jeans. I didn’t realise at the time; they were just £2.50 in the hippy shop (new!!). They’re actually pretty nice; and I’m sure I can get away with flares.

I will have to get a nice bag or something for my wallet though. The pockets are like 5mm deep.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
1 month ago

today’s kid-friendly shows routinely address sex, gender fluidity, race, and other complex topics that some parents think their youngsters aren’t ready to absorb.

It’s really funny when they claim children aren’t ready to learn about gender identity yet. Because lots of boy toddlers are drawn to “girl” things and lots of girl toddlers are drawn to “boy” things because they haven’t been fully socialized to conform to gender roles yet. It’s the adults who discourage kids from clothes and toys that are gender coded the opposite of the kid’s sex. If kids shouldn’t be learning about sex and gender yet, why are you telling little boys “no, that doll is for girls?” Why aren’t you just letting them be an innocent kid?

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ allandrel

Commando has a much better title to being a woke film.

Single dad, bringing up his daughter. Happy to do ‘girly’ things with her but also teaches her traditional ‘boy’s’ activities. And listens to her when she calls him out on his homophobia. Also has a hyper competent female sidekick who actually saves the day and rescues Arnie!

Also a creepy PUA bloke gets dropped off a cliff.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
1 month ago

Imagine complaining entertainment isn’t brainless enough!

today’s kid-friendly shows routinely address sex, gender fluidity, race, and other complex topics that some parents think their youngsters aren’t ready to absorb.

Way back in the nineties I watched Alfred J. Kwak and learned about acid rain and Apartheid and wondered whether robots have feelings, but I’m sure those were just happy-go-lucky children’s things that I was “ready to absorb”. Because if there’s one thing everyone knows about children, it’s that they are all the same and each and every one of them is interested in and/or traumatised by the same things.

@ .45

Hmmmm… Wasn’t the gayest thing about LOTR how Sam and Frodo acted toward each other in the movies, as interpreted by bro-dudes who only drink beer, watch football, and clap their friends roughly on the back while saying “No homo”?

My memory of all things Tolkien is very dim (the most vivid being that time I rolled around laughing while reading the Silmarillion), but I remember reading some newspaper article about fanfiction, where they’d used a screencap of Aragorn and Legolas from the movies, the caption saying, “This is as close as these two get in the original story, but fanfiction takes things farther.” Which seemed suspect, since I thought I remembered all the dudes in LoTR routinely kissing each other.

(Though it may have been something that happened once or twice and just seemed alien to me, so it loomed large in my memory. )

Battering Lamb
Battering Lamb
1 month ago

If I recall correctly, there was a character that they had planned as trans in the show, but they thought they couldn’t get away with it. So officially, there is no transgender character in the show. But they had planned one of the princesses as trans (Perfuma, in case people were wondering).

Full Metal Ox
1 month ago

@Battering Lamb:

If I recall correctly, there was a character that they had planned as trans in the show, but they thought they couldn’t get away with it. So officially, there is no transgender character in the show. But they had planned one of the princesses as trans (Perfuma, in case people were wondering).

They may have succeeded in sneaking at least one past the radar:

http://she-raandtheprincessesofpower.fandom.com/wiki/Jewelstar

If you’re familiar with the old-school version, Jewelstar and his sisters used to be known as the Star Sisters; whether the gender transition took place on a Watsonian as well as Doylean level is an exercise for the viewer.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 month ago

@Masse : when I first read the Lord of the Ring I though Gandalf and just about every non hobbit character to have a wives, they just left her at house. (I was about 8-10 at the time)

The books don’t talk much if at all of love and desire. Which make sense since it’s a war story and the events aren’t too conducive to talk about that, not to mention a bunch of characters are either asexual or not interested in regular middle-earth entities. (Gandalf for example). It would not be my first choice to talk about gender roles, desire, or love because of that.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
1 month ago

@ Ohlmann
Yeah, I remember I assumed the kissing (which may or may not have actually happened) being a regular greeting or some such in their culture, I didn’t assume it was sexual.

Many a good fandom discussion has started by wondering why something isn’t mentioned or why something’s been left out. I do think that’s worth looking into.

Last edited 1 month ago by Masse_Mysteria
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
1 month ago

I read somewhere some time ago that the Frodo/Sam dynamic was based off of the master/servant dynamic that Tolkien would’ve been quite familiar with growing up, but which has (evidently) all but disappeared in modern times. So any friendship between them has to take that into account, I think. Doesn’t preclude them becoming genuine friends or more, of course, just that the originally intended social dynamic likely wasn’t ‘good friends’ at the start of the journey.

And as for another recent ‘gater-style blowup over wokenesss, evidently some fanboys are up in arms over certain casting choices in the Netflix adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s Sandman series. In addition to a Black actress being chosen to play Death, Dream’s sister-brother Desire is going to be played by a nonbinary actor. Said fans are upset by the ‘forced’ inclusion of wokeness in their favorite series, while Gaiman is looking at them (paraphrased) like, ‘did you guys actually, you know, READ what I wrote back then?’

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
1 month ago

@Cyborgette

Notice how it’s almost all men doing the raging …

The media in a nutshell: Men raging are frightening and worthy of a “viewing the state of society with alarm” type story. Women raging are Karen jokes.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 month ago

not to mention a bunch of characters are either asexual or not interested in regular middle-earth entities

Or even ent-ities.

(BTW, do the entwives have ent-titties?)

Penny Psmith
Penny Psmith
1 month ago

Since Shakespeare has been mentioned (albeit kinda tangentially) I thought I’d share that I recently listened to an episode of the historical podcast Not Just the Tudors about an Elizabethan playwright (slightly before Shakespeare) named John Lily, who apparently had quite a lot of queer themes in his plays, which were fairly popular at the time but later got forgotten (probably at least partly because of their non-heteronormativity). For example, they talked about a play called Galathea which features a love story between two girls disguised as two boys, which ends with them going to get married with the blessing of Venus (who suggests that she’ll change one of them into a boy at the church door, but it’s left unknown if that offer is accepted, and even if it were, that’s still pretty queer). I can’t look up a link now, but it’s worth seeking out, this was fascinating.
Can just imagine what the anti-progressive league would have to say about that [early] modern dude and his “wokeness”.

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Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 month ago

@Redsilkphoenix:
Yeah, Desire was pretty blatantly androgynous in the comics, as well as looking like a Patrick Nagel drawing. Of course, those aren’t mutually exclusive; Nagel did a lot of artwork that managed to be somewhat minimalist and boundary-crossing at the same time.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
1 month ago

@Threp

Honestly what bothers me more is that “men responding to hardship with violent, misogynistic anger” is seen as normal and even sympathetic.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
1 month ago

OT, but could anyone here perhaps make an educated guess as to what this thing’s:

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist.php#gammadrive

thrust to weight ratio would likely cap out at? I expect the engine weight would be mostly in the magnets, and whatever bracing was needed to attach it to the payload since this would be load-bearing. In the limit of adding more and more engines, the max acceleration would tend to this value.

Full Metal Ox
1 month ago

@Threp:

The media in a nutshell: Men raging are frightening and worthy of a “viewing the state of society with alarm” type story. Women raging are Karen jokes.

White men, let’s not forget: men of color expressing anger, however peaceably, or justifiably, is grounds for declaring hunting season.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
1 month ago

@Cyborgette

Honestly what bothers me more is that “men responding to hardship with violent, misogynistic anger” is seen as normal and even sympathetic.

Same. That pisses me off too – it’s a pathetic weakness and failure in a person, that has somehow become normalised as understandable.

@Full Metal Ox

White men, let’s not forget: men of color expressing anger, however peaceably, or justifiably, is grounds for declaring hunting season.

Yep. The white man pass is alive and well over here, too.

Mexican Hot Chocolate
Mexican Hot Chocolate
1 month ago

‘Cause god[dess] forbid kids learn to be accepting and kind towards people regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity, or race or, horror, see themselves or their parents reflected in the characters on T.V.

Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
1 month ago

“American Thinker”….rarely if ever has a media outlet’s name sounded more ironic, because I SERIOUSLY doubt anybody associated with it does anything even close to thinking.

tim gueguen
1 month ago

From what I’ve read Victoria’s Secret are moving away from the “Angels,” and doing other alterations to their products and advertising, because their traditional male gazey type stuff isn’t bringing in enough customers anymore.

epitome of incomrepehensibility

Tolkien Society suddenly “woke”? Oh please, people have been talking about racism/anti-racism in The Lord of the Rings & his other works for decades.

My brother knows more about Tolkien than I do, but I had an interesting discussion with him awhile ago about anti-Asian racism and LOTR. The text in question wasn’t the book itself but a letter Tolkien had written about it where he said something like the Orcs had “Mongol” features that’d be unattractive by European standards.

So the issue was whether he was endorsing that view or just saying that others might see it that way. It could be a bit of both.

In Middle Earth, the “races” are more like different species (hobbits, men, elves, dwarves, etc.). Hobbits are clearly supposed to be like rural Englanders, but it doesn’t seem there’s necessarily a correspondence between other Middle Earth races and human ethnicities.

Now, some of the humans are mentioned in passing to have darker skin than others, but that can have unfortunate implications since they’re “wild men of the East” fighting for Sauron (the main villain) – or made to fight for Sauron, which is different, but still they’re seen as “wild.”

It would be interesting to compare this kind of orientalism to, say, the portrayal of the Dothraki society in A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones or Calormen in the Narnia Chronicles (Calormen being this corrupt/exotic empire, like how Europeans might have viewed medieval Islamic societies, and maaaybe also inspired by ancient Babylon or at least how it’s portrayed in the Bible as this big, bad civilization).

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Trying
Trying
1 month ago

As a queer Tolkien nerd, that conference sounds amazing! Death of the author means that no matter what Tolkien intended, if we can find evidence for something in a close reading, the interpretation is valid and worth sharing. It beats rehashing another discussion on the blue Istari or whatever the critic would prefer.

occasional reader
occasional reader
1 month ago

> Dalillama
Ah, I did not known this. Thank you for the shared information !

galanx
galanx
1 month ago

The Tolkien Society has had annual summer seminars on various topics since 1986; presumably they’re getting a little scrambly for topics that will both draw an audience and get people to submit papers.
Previous controversial topics have included ‘Tolkien the pagan’,’Women in Tolkien’; and ‘Politics and Middle-earth’; as well as such clickbait as ‘Tolkien and trees’, ‘Tolkien and Birmingham’ and ‘Tolkien Down Under’.
Other papers to be presented are

-“The Burnt Hand Teaches Most About Fire”: Applying Traumatic Stress and Ecological Frameworks to Narratives of Displacement and Resettlement Across Cultures in Tolkien’s Middle-earth 
-Projecting Indian Myths, Culture and History onto Tolkien’s Worlds
-The Problematic Perimeters of Elrond Half-elven and Ronald English-Catholic
 -Hidden Visions: Iconographies of Alterity in Soviet Bloc Illustrations for The Lord of the Rings
– Translation as a means of representation and diversity in Tolkien’s scholarship and fandom

For those snowflakes, it’s one seminar in 25 years- chill.

Who?
Who?
1 month ago

Tolkien: From what I know some of the content, comes from how certain readers react to it, or analysis of fanfiction. So I think people here may be a bit disappointed.
There is another Tolkienevent countersheduled to appeas the shocked “fans”.

Re She-Ra: The reaction comes fast, since the show run for 5 season end ended last year. Could be that we get a few more tears at the end of the year (if the two-partfinale should win a Hugo).
Re He-Man: The funny think is that this one is made for Fans of the Original, there is another one in the works, as far as I know.
I have my doubts that He-Man will be missing for long, the trailer has him a lot. If I have to bet, I would say that Teela is probably the second most important maincharacter of the show. The other chances about are we are lyving today and not in the 80s, and it is logical that she should learn both of this secrets some day. I liked the first trailer.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

If the Federalist thinks the Tolkien Society shouldn’t be getting embroiled in ‘woke’ politics; they’re going to hate this 1938 letter condemning racism, from someone who was very into Tolkien stuff.

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Bit more on the subject here…

https://www.good.is/articles/jrr-rolkien-nazi-letter

Last edited 1 month ago by Alan Robertshaw