New, or just new to me? I don’t think I’ve seen this particular theory before. From the AskTheRedPill subreddit, which is pretty much always wrong about everything:
Needless to say, the discussion inspired by this question is not really sparkling with wit and/or intelligence.
According to someone called RedLifts,
I think it’s a complex mixture of psychological issues caused by trauma, poor diet and pornography abuse but I have no evidence just self awareness and observation
MatingAdvice thought it was also because of
some agenda pushed by Big Gay and Big Transgender corporations to sell media, pharmaceuticals (hormones, etc) and other stuff.
Gotta watch out for Big Gay and Big Trans!
And speaking of self-awareness, and in this case an absolute lack of it, lieutenantdong had this brilliant thought:
Couldnt say but if i had to put a reason to it, its because they want it to be easier and be more accepted like people that arent men. (a lower burden of performance)
Apparently no one has an easier life than a trans woman!
Meanwhile, 11-Eleven-11 thinks he’s got it all figured out:
Its the lifestyle that makes him fat and warps his brain. He’s addicted to porn (probably the straw that breaks the camels back), video games, and sugary drinks and high carb foods. And he doesn’t do any physical activity so his test levels are extremely low. Mix all that in with low confidence in his appearence and probably loneliness then boom, you get a fat mentally ill trans larper.
Go LARP yourself, buster.
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Jim is literally a pro wrestler.
Apparently, there is a correlation between weight and sexual minority status. It’s difficult to say why. Some have argued that stress could be a factor as would poverty and social isolation. Others, specifically for lesbians, have argued that differing beauty standards could play a role. I doubt there is a causal link between obesity and sexual minority status though.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3910028/
OT, but does anyone here know of a Firefox add-on or similar that allows ignoring or overriding the “cache-control” header on a web page?
@KindaSortaHarmless
I was about to say the same thing. JSS is an active member of RYSE and I think at least one other wrestling association and I think she’s streaming her next match with special permission.
I’ve watched James transition over the past months and she seems not only so much happier but healthier-looking and overall just in a better place mentally. (Plus I gotta admit, that red hair looks amazing on her)
I believe one of the first recorded mention of a sex change operation, AKA a trans person, was written in ancient Rome. Big Pharma has clearly has been at this awhile.
Let’s see:
I am a gamer, so check. But given I like things like diversity and practical designs for female characters, not a real one by their metrics.
Addicted to porn? Hardly. Most of it grosses me out, to be honest. Dysphoria is a bit of a mood-killer, you see.
Sugary drinks? Occasionally when ordering takeout. Estimate would be 0.5 liters per two weeks. Otherwise my drinking habits consist of tea and water.
Sedentary lifestyle? My job involves a lot of walking and I work out pretty intensively 3 times a week. Not a model by any means, but the results have been commented upon by people I didn’t really know (my work involves giving tours to people).
I did start substituting milk with soy milk a few years back, so that must be it according to hacks like Paul Joseph Watson. The disphoria predates that by a significant margin, but when has that mattered to these people.
So, my take on a significant number of gamers being trans (assuming that is true) would have something to do with escapism (I know I needed it), and the person making that claim primarily paying attention to people in his in-group. Presumably gamers.
Been there, done that. But it’s always been my own fault: I didn’t study.
@.45
Say what? Do you have a source? I don’t see how it’s possible without antibiotics or, you know, modern surgical techniques. Even googling, all I can find is something from 1776 which is debatably a sex change surgery (no mentioned consent or desire from the patient, a child of 8, so I dunno that it would count as a trans operation and not something more like intersex children being forced one way or another).
@Big Titty Demon
Come oooon! 😉 That isn’t even mutilation because rigid vulvagina-penisticles binary is above children’s right to consent to anything that happens to their bodies! Trans adults paying for their GRS out of their own pockets totally mutilashion tho!
…That was sarcasm.
@BTD : humans know how to remove male gentials somewhat safely since… a lot of time (ancient china at least I think ?)
Emasculation certainly isn’t the ideal sex change surgery but feel like it can be an improvement already, so maybe it’s that.
That being said, legally trans persons date at least from before Jesus Christ, even without surgery.
Also, the idea that Jim Sterling is “extremely overweight” seem fishy to me. I didn’t check his weight because I am not a creep but the first thing I think when looking at him certainly isn’t his weight.
Amusingly, given his volume, if he is “extremely” overweight, it would mean he is basically a strongarm, made entirely of muscle.
@Ohlmann
I have a lot of problems with your description of “emasculation” as a sex change surgery, especially given its forced and non-consensual nature in most of history.
I am aware of third and fourth genders in various cultures BCE with legal status (not any Western ones, but could be a knowledge gap), but .45 was specifically mentioning a sex change operation in Ancient Rome.
Elagabalus is who you’re searching for. Emperor/Empress around 200 AD.
Yep, Threp got it. I read about it years ago in a book titled Ancient Inventions: https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Inventions-Thorpe-published-Ballantine/dp/B00EKYQFJ2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ancient+inventions+peter+james&qid=1623430464&sr=8-3
“- and outspoken desire to be treated as a woman. Two contemporary Roman historians say he requested doctors to create a vagina for him surgically. Unfortunately neither account gives more detail. Was the operation ever carried out? It seems unlikely, though the anecdote does show that the concept of sex change by surgical means is not a twentieth-century invention, but one that goes back nearly two thousand years.”
So, I may have remembered wrong and implied more than actually happened, but this trans thing ain’t exactly a new fangled idea.
Also, the previous page actually references female eunuchs in the service of the King of Lydia, who had their ovaries removed B.C. I would hazard a guess that that was presemably against their will and rather dangerous in pre antibiotic times, but unless the book or sources are wrong, it was done.
And then there are cults who castrated themselves at festivals, Chinese sewing bells into whatever down there, and eunuchs coming out everyone’s ears. To quote that Jack Black and Michael Cera caveman comedy: “What’s with all the genital mutilation around here?”
Blame Sister Bianca, my 2nd year teacher. Had a bit of a bee in her bonnet about the Roman Empire. 😛
Took a look at this Jim/Stephanie Sterling (seen both names, but no clearly stated preference), as I tend to ignore youtube babblers normally. Not exactly fat but they certainly didn’t train down, so they’ve got the whole “muscle sagging and fat overlay” thing that happens to any physical person that doesn’t wind things down carefully.
@Ohlmann
JSS goes by they/them.
@Threp
Until quite recently, that was the standard image of a very strong person. Big and beefy with a layer of fat overtop of hard muscle. The bodybuilder look is the result of very specific training regimens that ignore useful muscle in favor of aesthetics, plus intermittent starvation.
@Threp, .45
Thanks for the information! And yeah, I think very strict gender binaries are newer more than older.
That seems counter to what I know of ancient anatomical models, but totally survivable: contrary to popular myth, the first woman to survive surgery for ovarian tumors was not a white woman, but rather multiple enslaved black women who were experimented on first by the doctor in question. About half of them lived. Although not as long ago, it was still before the time of antibiotics and reliable germ theory, and I would hazard that enslaved “in service to the King” can’t be worse than “field slave in America.” Or maybe it could. I don’t know. I’m glad I’m not enslaved.
Yeah… are you saying that sex change surgery is genital mutilation? If so… uh, hello, what are you doing? If I’m misreading this (I hope I am, since you seemed reasonable and this is out of character?), I’m still not comfortable saying that cults, well-known to not be 100% consent-respecting organizations, or eunuchs, very often a forced operation, are the same as sex change surgery.
Meanwhile, here on Terf Island, support for trans rights appears to be higher than you might guess from the media:
https://novaramedia.com/2021/06/08/terfs-dont-speak-for-women-but-dont-take-it-from-me-look-at-the-polls/
Man, the theories these people come up with to justify their bigotry (and also completely ignore the existence of trans people who aren’t trans women/AMAB moving to or including a more feminine gender in their identity, which I’m getting Really Tired of)…
I mean, I guess if you want to equate having estrogen in any amount to being devious/deviant/Whatever Bad Stereotype generally, then maybe the theory is at least internally consistent with the fact these Redpill clods are misogynists as well, though the whole narrative is still total bullshit. If obesity really were causative of transness… more than 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese IIRC (and that proportion is probably not much different among the trans people I know, including myself), but there’s nowhere near 2/3 of all Americans that are trans (wasn’t it 1%? 2% tops?). You don’t have to be trans to like eating more food than is good for you or not exercise enough, which are MY problem particularly but are probably not unique to me.
@Threp (and everyone, really)
Just in case it’s helpful, I wanted to post a link to this tweet of theirs clarifying how they use their name/nicknames.
https://twitter.com/JimSterling/status/1355989748846907401?s=19
Edit: I’m not trying to imply you said the wrong thing or anything. I just thought it might be useful for people!
That’s fair enough. I mean, one of the long most common reasons for women to not change their names on marriage was because they were already famous or known under their names and didn’t want to lose that branding. Especially in acting and writing.
Thanks for the przcision for pronoun. Sadly, I try to be sensituve to that but very often fail, and I didn’t thought of checking.
@BTD : basicaly, in my opinion, it come down to intention. If someone do that voluntarily, it’s not mutilation.
@ Big Titty Demon
Sorry, it was an off handed quote, not intended to embody my viewpoint on these matters. For what it’s worth, I’m more or less with Ohlmann on this. I.E. It is mutilation if it was without consent or coerced. As you mentioned, cults and eunuchs have not exactly been a hotbed of safewords and good faith throughout history, ergo mutilation in my mind.
Hmmmmm… Now I have to look up the official meaning of “Mutilation”. Perhaps there is an argument that regardless of intent, any damage would be considered mutilation, but given that the term carries a negative connotation, that seems like fighting over semantics just to be an asshole. Plenty of that going around, I don’t need to help.
Yeah, let’s see photos, fat percentage, and pr0n usage of all these bozos. Projection much, boys?
Also their eye charts, if they can’t tell gamer fat from wrestler build. I have looked at photos of Jim, and suspect they could body slam all of the RedPill sub. All their fat seems to be over a core of muscle.
@.45: and don’t forget 200 years before that, Nero’s “wife” Sporus, though that was probably “only” castration.