A handy tip from the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit. You can literally save seconds by not holding doors open for women.
What a ray of sunshine this fellow must be!
Follow me on Mastodon.
Send tips to dfutrelle at gmail dot com.
We Hunted the Mammoth relies on support from you, its readers, to survive. So please donate here if you can, or at David-Futrelle-1 on Venmo.
I am sitting here giggling envisioning a “thousand cow stare”…
Jesus, that GIF makes my blood pressure spike. Men are terrifying when they get that way, and I’ve seen them in that mode a bit much in my life.
The thousand sheep stare is when your eyes close fast while you’re listening to stuff like this and you drop straight off to sleep.
@Cyborgette – I had a totally different thought, which was “huh, that’d be fun to do”…IF no one would miss that door, and it was a tad softer. 🙂
But, yeah, I wouldn’t want to be near someone who’s so angry they’d destroy property (not necessarily “properly” in the capitalist sense, but something that people use or share). It sucks that you’ve seen people do shit like that in real life. :/
…I mean, guess I have to some extent; I’m not a man and not tall, but I’ve definitely smashed things when angry in the past. Thankfully not for a long time. And no, I don’t want to be a person like that either, it’s not fun, but it must be hundreds of times worse to be/feel threatened.
…
Overanalytical mood, sorry. At least there’s not much to analyze in the post itself: the premise is laughable (“how little door experience women have” – uh, sure) and the last sentence is a garbled mess.
This is extremely something that did happen outside his head.
As for the door smashing gif, it reminds me of a classmate I had in grade school who sometimes broke things by just fidgeting with them. One time during recess, he wrestled with the classroom door and accidentally lifted it off hinges.
@cyborgette : I agree with that sentiment. I suspect the video is orchestrated with a fake door, but people, mostly men, being ridiculously aggressive is all too common 🙁
If you want to see a positive, it’s pretty much the same phenomen as people being suddenly able to lift a car to save someone behind.
This is new news to me.
The extent that manospherians are obsessed with door holding will never stop being funny to me.
Most people – of any gender – are just halfway decent and will not slam the door in the faces of people that are behind them and it’s really not a big deal to most of us. But to these dudes, it’s just apparently all they can think about.
It feels like a simple piece of etiquette: The first one to the door/through the door, holds the door for the person behind them. Regardless of gender, age (to a certain degree), attractiveness, whatever. If you simply can’t hold the door, either because of mobility-issurs or just because your hands are loaded with stuff, say “sorry”.
Do we honestly need to spell this out? Really?
Why are these dudes so allergic to basic courtesy?
I recall a classroom discussion about equality, decades ago, where a boy complained about door-holding, like it was a gotcha. It’s something which probably seems like a big injustice when you’re 13 years old, but becomes insignificant when you’re a normal functioning adult.
Concerning GIF: Isn’t that one of the UFC guys on set or whatever, with Dana White laughing about how flimsy their doors are? I.E. Could be staged for the drama, or just your everyday angry guy who has spent most of his life fighting and got his feefees hurt.
As for the main premise, dude could have just said “Here’s a good way to be a petty dick for no reason.”
I’ve never before considered my woeful lack of door experience. Can I even hold doors? Open doors? Identify doors? Will some man please come along and teach me what a door is and what to do with it so that I can leave my bedroom
I’m so polite I even hold revolving doors open for people.
But honesty; they do make such a fuss. I sort of imagine this is how they see door holding.
@Viscaria, can you see a large rectangle? You need to turn the knob on your side.
@ moggie
It’s not always that easy!
I can’t really see why anyone would give MGTOW time-saving tips considering that they are a bunch of people who seem to routinely go on and on about things that have nothing to do with our shared reality. “Just go already or stop talking about it” would suffice.
Though I’m pretty sure I could have saved a lot of time in my life by not wondering awkwardly whether I should stay put to hold the door open when the next person is x metres away and may not even be making for this particular door. This may or may not have something to do with the fact that I’ve worked at a place where one door would close so swiftly that I was routinely afraid of hitting myself with it.
@Masse_Mysteria, that sounds related to that thing where you’re approaching someone you know in a corridor, and have to decide how soon to acknowledge them. Too soon, and you have to keep on awkwardly acknowledging them until you pass; too late, and you look like you’re trying to ignore them. It’s a minefield.
@Alan,
Gif #1 – that’s from the original Clash of the Titans, isn’t it? Man, I need to track down a copy of that movie and see how well it’s held up. I recall it as a pretty fun romp when it first came out.
Gif #2 – I take it that’s why you don’t drink and drive even a little when your vehicle is the TARDIS? XD
@ Moggie,
Whew, not just me, then! I’d add, though: that thing where you’re approaching someone, and you think you know them, so you wave and call hello, and there’s that thing where you keep awkwardly acknowledging them until you pass, and then as you get close you realise they’re not who you thought they were.
That’s…that’s my life.
I had a creepy coworker once who always wanted to grab my hand and he’d always be sure to hold doors for me. I preferred to open and close my own doors. Where I live now, it’s much more common for younger men to hold doors for older women, sort of a sign of respect, I guess, in the vein of helping a little old lady across the street. I don’t mind when men my sons’ age hold doors for me, but I don’t care if they don’t, either. I taught my sons to have respect for women overall.
Bookworm, Weirwood Tree Hugger, You both summed it up perfectly. Holding a door for the next person through is just common decency.
I think they are confusing women with Worf from Star Trek. He couldn’t handle doors.
https://youtu.be/yKdqBHExH9I
I just started thinking generally about door handles. About how even some dogs and cats – and velociraptors in Jurassic Park – can operate them. Clever girls they are.
I’m vaguely aware that in US many (?) doors have knobs instead of proper handles. Hardly ever seen such thing here. Compared to a handle, a knob seems incredibly impractical for everyone, and outright accessibility limiting for people with various disabilities. Just from pandemic hygienic perspective, you’ll presumably share germs with other people more efficiently if you have to take a good grab of the thing. Though it probably does help slow down velociraptors.
With regard to disabilities and door handles and velociraptors, I remembered that my long ago coworker had a hook prosthesis for hand (I don’t remember which one). She was so discreet with it, it took me several days to notice. Another clever girl, she was.
@ redsilkphoenix
Jason and the Argonauts I think. Another great Harryhausen film!
@ lumipuna
This is really dating myself, but it reminds me of Shampoo from the Anime/Manga Ranma ½. It was a running gag where people would be going about their day when suddenly she would bust down a wall, walk through the hole, and cheerfully announce something or other. She was far from the only character who engaged in rampant property or scenery destruction, just the only one who would do so in order to casually enter a building.