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MGTOW Redditors: Women are getting vaccinated at higher rates than men because they’re a bunch of virtue signaling conformists with no personalities

So it turns out that women are more likely to get the COVID vaccine than men, by about ten percent. It’s not completely clear why.

As the New York Times notes, this “worrisome” trend may have any number of causes, from the higher percentage of women who are care givers (and thus high priority for the vaccines) to the “long standing patterns of women embracing preventive care more often generally than men.” Which is the polite way of saying that more than a few men are too stubborn to go to the doctor.

In the world of the contemporary MGTOW, though, there’s a simpler answer: men are rational beings who have decided after much “research” that the vaccines are dangerous and pointless and quite possibly part of a genocidal plot to destroy the human species. In their mind, the real thing that needs explaining isn’t why men are avoiding the vaccine but why women are demanding it.

Their answer? It’s because women are a bunch of cookie-cutter virtue-signaling conformist sheep who want to look cool in front of their friends.

Reddit’s MGTOWs weighed in on the subject in a thread yesterday, most of them posting variations on the same few themes.

According to xmetalmanx013

Women are all carbon copies of each other. The hive mind is real. Plus it gives her the potential at getting additional attention and validation. She can claim she got the vaccine and then if there are any side effects she can claim the victim card for a few days maybe even longer. It’s always about the attention and validation.

BobbingForBunions explained that

Women are experts in groupthink.

They spend their lives seeking attention/validation. Meanwhile, groupthink provides them with a comfortable haven from criticism.

Seems like a depressing way to live.

Groupthink, you say? That does sound depressing.

anongogogo added

Yep. Just sheep mentality. They also shame you for not getting it.

Alexius_von_Meinong got all fancy with his answer:

In-group conformity is central to female psychology. It was the condition of their survival in the past.

theawesomethatis delved deeper into the psyche of the MGTOW’s straw woman.

For a lot of them it gives them another thing that is a replacement for a personality. Belonging to something.

Following the rules. Being a good little rule follower. I’m a hero! I’m special! I bought special masks with a design on them! I got the vax! And a sticker! And those who don’t are evil nazis!

Why it’s going to be so hard for this crap to go away. They like being good little rule followers. It’s easy and they don’t have to think. In many ways it’s like a religion.

ThereIsAlwaysVanilla summed it all up:

Women sure are a conformist lot. And a humorless one at that.

Oh are they.

What were you guys saying about conformity again?

One commenter took it upon himself to explain at length why women need to be conformists and it has something to do with living (and/or dying) in the wilderness.

Bear in mind that I’ve trimmed this one down. The original is even longer and less coherent.

roflcopt0rz_returns, take it away.

The vast majority of women are incapable of surviving on their own. … A man can survive in the wilderness as long as he has a few friends he keeps in touch with just to keep his sanity, a few friends he can talk stories with, etc. He can do everything else needed by himself.

Ok dude, make yourself a little lean-to in the wilderness and come back in five years to tell me how it went.

A woman is wholely dependent on others to survive. She relies on men to do the actual work for her (or in modern society, men’s taxpayer money so she can collect her welfare checks off the men’s taxes, or alternately she’s doing a pointless HR or admin job while the men lower than her on the pecking order do the actual work), and she relies on women for sociological acceptance.

“Sociological acceptance?”

if she is shunned by the group and is forced to be by herself, she will go insane; just look at the rates of women on anti-depressants and suicide rates skyrocketing in modern times. Women simply without a hubby become terribly depressed to the point that they kill themselves, just imagine what would happen to them if their female “friends” shunned them too.

On the other hand, men are actually capable of standing up for themselves. And if the group rejects them, men are actually capable of surviving on their own without the group’s approval. That is WHY MGTOW is growing. More men by the day are waking up and realizing “Wait why the fuck am I bothering with useless sacks of shit when I can just do shit on my own and be totally cool?”

Don’t nobody tell him.

So tying in to the OP, this is why it is primarily women “bragging” about getting the vaccine. It is all just about obtaining validation from the crowd. Women have to fit in with the crowd because if the crowd rejects them they will most likely die. …

Note that guys like us MGTOWs would be speaking out even if it would get us ostracized by 95% of the people. We literally speak the truth about female nature, marriage, etc., and BOTH political parties censor us for that. But we will speak the truth and live by reality even if 95% of the population would shun us, because it is the truth, it is the reality, and it is the right and moral thing to do, even if no one else will follow us.

Huh. “Right and moral?” What about the MGTOWs who spread dangerous misinformation about the vaccines that they picked up on the internets and never bothered to fact check?

Sorry, that’s a bit of a leading question.

ImmortanV8 wrote

Perfect. Enjoy your sterility once the antibodies created through this gene therapy called vaccine attack the syncytin-1 that is building up the uterus for pregnancy. I will enjoy their lamenting and tears which will only happen because they were stupid morons that gave away their capacity for rational thinking to people way more evil than they can ever imagine to be

Google, tell me what’s wrong with this.

Ah, here’s something from Reuters: “Fact check: Available mRNA vaccines do not target syncytin-1, a protein vital to successful pregnancies.”

Get your vaccines, folks! All trash talk aside, the vaccine is a quick and easy way to ensure you won’t die a horrible COVID death.

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AliRaeJae
AliRaeJae
13 days ago

“Women simply without a hubby become terribly depressed to the point that they kill themselves…”

Eh, science says the opposite. I don’t expect MGTOWs to use evidence based arguments, but that’s a glaring error. On the other hand, I’d love for them to try to explain the statistics around single/childless women being considered “happiest.” Should be some fun evo psych mental gymnastics.

Last edited 13 days ago by AliRaeJae
Wez
Wez
13 days ago

Getting some solid men can survive in the woods as long as some brings them meals and does their laundry vibes. Also I’d laugh at the men are so good at being alone we’ve formed groups to hang out and talk about it all the time if it wasn’t really, really sad and bloody infuriating.

Jon
Jon
13 days ago

Next up; why women are terrible for being more likely to wear seatbelts says man whose totally not bitter about being turned down,

Jon
Jon
13 days ago

The vast majority of women are incapable of surviving on their own. … A man can survive in the wilderness as long as he has a few friends he keeps in touch with just to keep his sanity, a few friends he can talk stories with, etc. He can do everything else needed by himself.

So women needing a social structure is signs of their weakness. Men needing a few friends is fine though.

Ninja Socialist
Ninja Socialist
13 days ago

Thanks for that lovely festival of manbaby projection and misogyny. Women don’t do real work? I’ll tell that to my doctor and all the women engineers out there (as well as servers cleaners, caregivers and a thousand other jobs who work their butts off and without whom we’d be screwed). Were these men raised in a lab with no exposure to women outside of porn and MRA propaganda? Nothing they say makes sense in the context of the real world the rest of us live in. As far as “women go crazy when their alone”, I’ve found it to be the opposite, Men are the ones who fall apart when their wives leave of die. We’re perfectly capable of being off on our own. I used to load up my pack horse, jump on my horse and my dogs and I would go camping way out in the back country of BC alone. It was amazing. Also a great way to get away from my visiting in-laws. I’d love to see any of these so called tough guys last one night out there alone.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
13 days ago

Following the rules. Being a good little rule follower. I’m a hero! I’m special! I bought special masks with a design on them! I got the vax! And a sticker! And those who don’t are evil nazis!

Says someone who would undoubtedly score high on Altemeyer’s RWA test.

“Following the rules. Being a good little rule follower. I’m a hero! I’m special! I bought special hats with a design on them! I voted for Trump! Twice! And those who don’t are evil nazis!”

Right back atcha, rightwinger!

Dalillama
13 days ago

There has been precisely one man in recorded history who could reasonably be described as living alone in the wilderness without help.* His name is, or was, Piyiti Tjapangati, and he lives, as far as anyone knows, in Western Australia. He wears a belt made of hair and eats roots, grubs, and lizards he killed with sticks**. Anyone who wants a higher living standard than that is going to need, at minimum, a lot of tools they can’t make themselves, and quite likely resources they can’t gather themselves, let alone a whole lot of skills.

*including making all his own tools from raw materials he gathered himself.

** Not judging his choice, but that’s a quite literal description of his lifestyle. He was one of the “Pintupi Nine,” a family of Pintupi who lived in a traditional manner without contact with the modern world until 1984. Most of them thought civilization was pretty cool, and are now well-known painters, but Piyiti disgreed. He fucked back off into the Outback in 1986, and hasn’t been seen since.

LollyPop
LollyPop
13 days ago

she’s doing a pointless HR or admin job while the men lower than her on the pecking order do the actual work

This is becoming a real bug bear of mine, I think because in the UK there’s this narrative that the NHS would work fine without all that admin, and that we spend far to much paying people (what is in reality not a lot of money) to be “pencil pushers”. Bullshit jobs DO exist, of course, BUT without HR all those very important men doing all the “real work” won’t get paid on time!! Without admin the company you work for has no way of recording whether projects are even worth doing, and it will fail and everyone will be fired.

There seems to be a whole bunch of people who think that common sense and the university of life would magically resolve every administrative task if we just got rid of all those pesky people wasting their time doing the grunt work on spreadsheets and policy documents and payroll. And honestly, sometimes I’d like to see them try.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
13 days ago

I would expect women to be more risk-adverse than men because they need to live through pregnancy and probably raise their child too. That’s a bit psych-ev, granted, but it do check out here.

That being said, projection is very very very strong here, especially the guy saying “they want to be special and a hero”. Guy, why exactly are you railing against the vaccine ?

@Lollypop : I believe the term HR have a problem of encompassing too many different function, which don’t help its general reputation. (that and being seen as “useless because it’s just support !”, another problem brought to you by Toxic Masculinity, TM)

HR have absolutely essential functions, like solving conflicts and paying people. It often also encompass purely bullshit functions like psychological evaluation and internal propaganda.

As for performance evaluation, one of the problem is that it’s often made extremely badly, and the worst, ground-disconnected version is often linked to HR (perhaps unfairly). Maybe the NHS one is good, but I can’t remember a firm where I worked where HR involvment in performance evaluation was a good thing. One of the main reason being that they had absolutely no idea of what to look for.

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
13 days ago

I ran down here to signal my virtue like the conformist totally devoid of personality that I am. 2x vax in the arm thank you very much!

LollyPop
LollyPop
13 days ago

@Ohlmann

Totally agree there’s unnecessary stuff within the role, usually on the part of companies trying to add efficiencies and systems to what are essentially human interactions or ways of working. And yep it’s definitely the stuff like unconscious bias training and sexual harassment procedures that get the right wingers back up about HR as a concept.

Funnily enough the HR in the NHS is pretty bad (from what I can gather from my partners experience of working there!). They have a lot of turnover because the pay isn’t great when compared to the private sector. In that organisation their main function seemed to be background checks and payroll.

Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
13 days ago

Women are all carbon copies of each other. The hive mind is real. Plus it gives her the potential at getting additional attention and validation.

Not like MGTOW, who most certainly don’t all sound alike in their hatred of women. And they definitely aren’t trying to get additional attention and validation in a discussion with other MGTOW by employing ever more vitriol and increasingly outlandish pronouncements.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
13 days ago

I have returned recently to Earthbound, a relatively old japanese RPG. One of the main antagonist is the neighbor of the hero, who start as a garden-variety jerk, and during the game never stop upping the destructiveness and spitefulness of his scheme, ending up with trying to destroy reality itself.

His behavior seem much more realistic now that I know of the far right. I swear theses assholes would side with an eldritch abomination bent on destroying the world willingly.

Nicholas Kiddle
Nicholas Kiddle
13 days ago

Following the rules. Being a good little rule follower. I’m a hero! I’m special! I bought special masks with a design on them!

So they are simultaneously going along with the crowd like sheep with no personality and expressing their individuality and thinking that makes them special? More stellar logical thinking there.

As for why (certain) men don’t want the vax, they think they’re too strong to be affected by a virus and they never learned that giving a shit about those around them is a positive, would be my guess.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
13 days ago

Nothing like a group of people sitting around nodding and agreeing with each other that that other group is a conformist hivemind.

As for virtue signaling, only one group is childishly politicizing vaccines and mask wearing for the sake of their own egos. Hint: it’s not the group who believes in science and herd immunity.

Enjoy your sterility once the antibodies created through this gene therapy called vaccine attack the syncytin-1 that is building up the uterus for pregnancy.

How does he explain the fact that several vaccine trial participants got pregnant and delivered safely with no complications?

Also, Covid itself potentially impacts male fertility, since there are ACE-2 receptors in the testicles. But I guess that’s less important than owning the libs by playing roulette with a novel and unpredictable disease.

We literally speak the truth about female nature, marriage, etc., and BOTH political parties censor us for that. But we will speak the truth and live by reality even if 95% of the population would shun us

If BOTH political parties reject your beliefs about women (including the one that believes in wack conspiracy theories), and 95% of people shun you, then your beliefs are a garbage fire.

In-group conformity is central to female psychology. It was the condition of their survival in the past.

It was the condition of EVERYONE’S survival. Humans are a social animal. Men (and women) who got banished from the tribe didn’t last long.

The vast majority of women are incapable of surviving on their own. … A man can survive in the wilderness as long as he has a few friends he keeps in touch with just to keep his sanity, a few friends he can talk stories with, etc.

”I can totally survive on my own!….As long as there are other people around.”

danielrigal
danielrigal
13 days ago

For people who complain about other people seeking validation, they sure spend a lot of time on the internet seeking validation.

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
13 days ago

@danielrigal

For people who complain about other people seeking validation, they sure spend a lot of time on the internet seeking validation.

“People who didn’t need people needed people around to know that they were the kind of people who didn’t need people.” -T.Pratchett

Hambeast
Hambeast
13 days ago

I don’t care about looking cool in front of my friends, I want to look how I look (decidedly not cool) in the actual, physical presence of my friends. I also want to do my part to achieve herd immunity. Oh, and not get the ‘rona; there’s that, too.

That’s why I’m getting my second Pfizer shot on Monday.

These whiny and willfully ignorant losers can suck it. Since they steadfastly refuse to actually go their own way.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
13 days ago

So what I’m getting is that it’s okay to need other people if you just need them to talk to and to keep your sanity, but it’s bad to need other people to cooperate on things or something. It kind of sounds like sanity isn’t rated very high, if it’s upkeep is just a minor issue that won’t count as being dependent on others.

@ LollyPop

And honestly, sometimes I’d like to see them try.

Slightly tangential, but my mother once told me that at her job (office work) some wise person decided to save money by getting rid of oll the assistants who took care of small tasks that weren’t anyone’s specialty. As a result, if you needed reimbursements, you got to spend the better part of a day trying to figure how to fill out a form you only ever saw once or twice a year, while the assistants could get all that done within minutes of getting the receipts, since they had the routine and knew what they were doing. I’m not sure how much money they saved by having the higher paid people waste their time like that.

I’ve also heard of other workplaces were someone just decides to get rid of a bunch of lower-pay workers to cut costs, without realizing that someone will have to fill in for them and then you’re basically paying more for that work, and also the things the higher-ups were supposed to be doing won’t get done on time.

It’s like it would make sense for a workplace to have someone oversee things like these and trying to figure out the consequences ahead of time.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
12 days ago

Well, I now have an armful of AstraZeneca’s infamous blood-clot cocktail. So far, no discernible side effects, as of the one hour mark or so. The actual shot itself felt more like a bee sting than a typical needle injection, minus any kind of persistent ache or throbbing afterward (which I’m given to understand is caused by bees’ venom, so a pinprick of something else wouldn’t have that effect).

They scheduled the second shot for August, which seems slightly farther than I would have expected. Supposedly I’ll already have my infection risk reduced to a quarter by three weeks from now, with a further reduction some time after the second jab.

No change in phone reception or WiFi discernible over here. If it’s made me sterile I’ll probably never know since odds are I’ll never have the opportunity to test that, being a nerdy misfit without the budget for a decent set of shoes, nevermind wheels, and all.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
12 days ago

It’s been almost a week since I got my first Pfizer, and tomorrow Mr. Parasol is going to get his first Pfizer. He’s not looking forward to it, but he doesn’t want to wear a mask for the rest of our lives.

I imagine the MGTOW crowd would have something to say on his decision, which would be met by a bemused look, followed by Mr. Parasol going off to live his life.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
12 days ago

@Surplus:
I’m in a similar boat, got a schedule for the first shot next week, and the second one isn’t until August. Annoying, as is the fact that the place where I’m scheduled to get my shot is downtown about 8km away, but that’s better than last week when I looked things up and the closest place that had any open spots was almost 12km away at the Toronto-Mississauga border.

Mabret the Virile Maiden
Mabret the Virile Maiden
12 days ago

I’m going to consummate my virtue-signalling conformity by getting my second shot next Wednesday.

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
12 days ago

My parents are getting their first ones on the 7th, so yay! I’ve been worried about them since all this started.

.45
.45
12 days ago

“But we will speak the truth and live by reality even if 95% of the population would shun us”.

Probably more accurate to say 95% of the population doesn’t know you exist, so not sure how you are being shunned by much of anyone.

Anyway, I’m a dude and got all vaxxed up as soon as it was offered. Must be because I work with a bunch of useless women who make guys like me do all the work or something?

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
12 days ago

Sometimes I despair at the state of the left in my country. Tories keep winning elections. The Grits are increasingly Tory Lite. The NDP have an actually Grit-like platform, but can’t actually win and seem to go through periodic bursts of begging everyone whose email address has ever come to their attention for money, sometimes to the tune of eight or nine emails in a single day. That’s likely to annoy people enough to drive away potential supporters, to say nothing of the fact that “donate to our campaign! We’ve never won a federal election yet, but what the hey, right?” isn’t particularly enticing. Nobody wants to bet money on a sure loser. Maybe if it were an actual bet, and would pay off 50,000 to 1 if the NDP actually won, they’d at least attract some compulsive gamblers.

Then you’ve got the assorted activist groups. Sometimes they win a policy concession or two, at least. But sometimes the situation actually gets worse: MVNOs seem further than ever from entering the Canadian market and lowering the sky-high mobile prices here, and that CRTC bill that was previously going to put onerous burdens on online businesses here but not touch user-generated content, will now apparently also regulate user-generated content. It’s a good thing I already have downloaded a copy of Tor browser way back, used mainly for searching sensitive medical topics that I don’t want being associated with my Google “permanent record”. I have a sneaking suspicion it’s going to be seeing a lot more use soon.

Those activist groups seem to think their base — generally working class and POC — have unlimited resources. When they’re not straight up begging for money, which is often, or circulating a petition, which is not an outrageous ask, they’re asking people to call Cabinet ministers and things like that. On the *phone*. Erm, last I checked Bell was still charging an arm and a leg to make long-distance calls, and half the potential callers have conservative husbands, parents (you try moving out on your own on a burger flipper’s wages when you turn 18!), or similarly who will see those calls in the next month’s phone bill and potentially start a big argument over them or worse.

Most of them also assume you have accounts at both Facebook and Twitter. And then you get gems like this:

Action Alert: ODSP Protest at Queen’s Park on June 1st

Why are you sending me this? I’m on ODSP; I can’t possibly afford to travel to Toronto. The Greyhound tickets and one night motel stay alone would come to several hundred bucks minimum, and I’m pretty sure I’d be needing food at some point, and maybe other things. Oh, and if you think I’m boarding any kind of crowded vehicle packed to standing-room only with total strangers in the middle of a pandemic, you’ve been sat in a cloud of bong fumes too long and best go outside to clear your head.

Perhaps this is the state of the left everywhere, inherently dependent for resources on the people who have the least to spare. In any event, I despair at the state of the world. I don’t see any way out of this except for everything to, eventually, crash and burn, at least as badly as the Depression/World Wars a century ago, and levelheaded people outsurviving the assorted idiots to be the ones who dominate the rebuilding afterward. Then we might get another few decades of comparatively egalitarian prosperity before the rich and assorted would-be oligarchs are able to re-tighten their grips.

Last edited 12 days ago by Surplus to Requirements
Viscaria
Viscaria
12 days ago

Women have to fit in with the crowd because if the crowd rejects them they will most likely die. …

Well, he’s right, I guess, that my desire to get vaccinated is partially motivated by fear of dying. I’m not sure he’s got the mechanism totally figured out, though.

I’m not yet eligible where I live for any vaccines, unfortunately. The funny thing is all the men in my family are, so dad, stepdad, brother, and husband have all had their first shots like hivemind sheeple while my mom and I wait impatiently like real rugged lone wolf independent thinkers. (She’s got an appointment booked now.)

Daughter
Daughter
12 days ago

Might the relative longevity of women have played a role in this statistic? Here in Germany, vaccination has been in age tranches, starting with the over 80s. We are now vaccinating everyone over 70.

An earlier commenter mentioned the relative number of women in front-line health care, a great point that I hadn’t thought of. Thank you!

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
12 days ago

May I just say how pleased I am how conformist all you virtue-signalers are! It really does warm the cockles of my heart to see so much conformity here, keep up the good work, congratulations to everyone who managed to get one or in some cases two shots so far. 😀 I’m crossing my fingers for the rest of you soulless husks with no personality, hopefully you can get it soon! <3

Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
12 days ago

I will enjoy their lamenting and tears

Of course you will. You’re a MGTOW, so your idea of a good time is to cackle in sadistic glee whenever anyone falls and skins a knee. Or appears to be ready to fall and skin a knee. Or might do so in the future, possibly the far-off future.

which will only happen because they were stupid morons

Stupid? And morons?

that gave away their capacity for rational thinking to people way more evil than they can ever imagine to be

Wait. Are you saying that women let other people do their thinking for them, people who are, unbeknownst to them, very, very evil?

Dude, you’re talking about women as a group. So is this other group. . .men?

Who?
Who?
12 days ago

Reasons for more women beeing vacinated than men.
I can add 2 more:

  1. Women are living statisticly longer than men, so if you start with older people, the targetgroup has more women than men in it.
  2. From what I know from my country is that more men vote far right there than women. There are a lot of connection to the Queerdenkerpeople (who often belive that corana doesn’t exist). So it could be that there are more men who don’t want to be vacinated than women.

Re Astra-Seneca and waiting: I can confirm that there is a longer time for the vacine. A familymember has to wait 3 months between shot 1 and 2.

North Sea Sparkly Dragon
North Sea Sparkly Dragon
12 days ago

I had my first Pfizer jab in March, my next one is a week Thursday. I only got mine because of medical fatphobia – the assumption that because people are fat they will automatically get Covid-19 and die. I am a good little autistic person, so of course I follow rules.

mouse sparrow
mouse sparrow
12 days ago

@Ninja Socialist

That sounds super amazing.
A horse, dogs, and camping.
Pure bliss.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
12 days ago

Women simply without a hubby become terribly depressed to the point that they kill themselves

As opposed to incel men simply without a wife who become terribly angry to the point that they kill other people. And the countless other angry wifeless men who cheer them on, on the countless internet forums whose core belief is that going unlaid for men is worse than slavery, the Holocaust, and the heat death of the universe combined.

If men don’t need anybody and being single is a walk in the park for them, what’s fueling all these rants? Shouldn’t there be deafening silence as they go lead their awesome solitary forest lives without electricity or running water?

Kevin
Kevin
12 days ago

Homo solus aut deus aut demom…aut asinus asinorum. Sorry about any mistakes, didn’t do Latin at school.

Lakitha K Tolbert
Lakitha K Tolbert
12 days ago

I think the sheer irony, of their “lone wolf” rhetoric, is that without other people, society and even civilization itself, wouldn’t exist, and they wouldn’t be having these conversations over the internet, which was created so people could more easily communicate with each other.

Western nations have finally reached a point in our development, where we are so good at being a society, that we can now argue against our own existence, like those people who quit taking their medication, because it’s working.

Dalillama
12 days ago

@Kat

Dude, you’re talking about women as a group. So is this other group. . .men?

I expect it’s Jews, knowing how these lot think.

.45
.45
12 days ago

You know, I am contemplating joining a Manosphere forum and doing a Poe’s Law thing on Chads and women and such, but one main sticking point for me is that it would probably be like throwing fuel on the fire regardless of my intent.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
11 days ago

I got my first virtue signal today. I didn’t even feel the needle going in, but now my arm is very sore!

I look forward to going grocery shopping tomorrow so I can infect non-vaccinated women with my vax fumes and induce periods or whatever it is these anti-vax chucklefucks are claiming now.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
11 days ago

WWTH – Congrats, and enjoy! With 5G, the virtue signal is even clearer.

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
11 days ago

I got my second shot last week and it really fucked me up good, got it on Friday and didn’t feel good again till Tuesday. My husband had woke me up earlier Friday morning to make me take tylenol and put me in a luke warm bath because I was sweating so much I soaked the night gown and sweatpants I went to bed in, the sheets, the blanket, and half of his shirt that I was laying against. The fevers wouldn’t break and I got really dehydrated.

Also the dude who gave me the second was not gentle at all. He really stabbed me with that needle. My arm was swollen until Tuesday as well but I made it through it.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
10 days ago

I woke up yesterday with what appeared to be a hangover, though I hadn’t been drinking. I’m given to understand that a major factor in that is dehydration, so I’m wondering if I somehow became dehydrated. Could the vaccine cause that? Or is it likely to be unrelated?

I read somewhere that some reported J&J vaccine side effects turned out to be a nocebo effect. No doubt Republican scaremongering about the vaccines has contributed to such events. Damn them.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
10 days ago

@LollyPop, Ohlmann, & Masse_Mysteria:. Thanks for the clear descriptions & defense of admin work, and why it’s necessary.

These MGTOW’s attitude reminds me of the 3rd book in the Hitchhiker at the End of the Galaxy series – So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish, where society decides to cut out all of the admin and middlemen/women positions. This doesn’t end well for anyone.

My half brother is hesitating about getting the COVID vaccine, even though he lives in New Jersey (hit heavily by COVID), and has several risk factors for COVID. He can’t seem to provide a logical reason why he doesn’t want to get it. He told me an anecdote about his younger brother, who apparently never got colds or the flu until AFTER he was vaccinated for something, decades ago. My bro said he didn’t remember what the vaccine was for.

I didn’t want to argue with him about it. If this anecdote is true, then it was almost certainly coincidental.

Kevin
Kevin
10 days ago

Pfizer dose 2 booked for the 12th.

Mostly_Lurking
Mostly_Lurking
8 days ago

@Ohlmann, you have great taste in RPGs. And MRAs make Pokey seem like a downright decent human being.