For example, see this post in which a MGTOW-friendly Redditor waxes rhapsodic about … his washing machine. (Or, as he accidently calls it in his headline, his “machine machine.”)
I’ve read through this several times to see if I’m missing some important subtext but I can’t find any. If he wanted to gloat about women using technology developed by men, wouldn’t he have said something about that? Or should we classify this with MGTOW cooking posts, in which MGTOWs boast about making unimpressive dinners? Should we expect to see more MGTOW celebrations of other trivial accomplishments, like tying one’s own shoes or peeling a potato?
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I dunno, I’m also inclined to wax rhapsodic about my washing machine (and my dishwasher).
Do you think his post is maybe intended to indicate that he can do without women, since he can wash his clothes by himself?
@Bookworm in hijab:
Do you think his post is maybe intended to indicate that he can do without women, since he can wash his clothes by himself?
That, as well as an implied abhorrence of women congrugating (sic)to chatter!—we can’t be having with that!
I suppose this is vaguely relevant…
The dishwasher was invented by a lady called Josephine Cochran. She made quite a bit of money selling supplies to gold prospectors, and ended up living in a posh mansion.
She was in the habit of throwing dinner parties; but got annoyed that her servants kept chipping the crockery. So she decided to show them how to do the washing up properly; but when she tried, she kept breaking things too. So she said “Bugger this; I’m going to invent a machine to do it” (I’m only slightly paraphrasing there).
When her alcoholic husband died leaving piles of debt; she patented the machine to get some cash.
Her company is now owned by Whirlpool.
I feel like everyone, even when married should do their own laundry cause we all have our won ways we like our clothes clean. I’d be actually really upset with my husband if he tried to wash any of my dresses or leggings.
Next, he brags he’s able to microwave a frozen dinner all by himself! And then he boasts that he can button his shirt up just like a big boy!
@Alan Robertshaw:
She wasn’t the only inventor in her family….her brother Zefram created warp drive.
Easily the best post I’ve ever seen a mgtow make. No racism, homophobia, transphobia and only a little sexism (maybe).
I don’t think there is any subtext.
I think it’s just this guy who likes his washing machine, even if he doesn’t know the proper name for it.
It’s a bit of a shock, I know, but t’would seem not all posts in the MGTOW arena have to be virulently misogynistic. This time it’s just a guy who can operate a washing machine, and feels justly (?) proud of it. (Lord knows there’s a crapload of guys who apparently can’t.)
I suppose the concept that most women are going to be okay with that hasn’t really crossed his mind yet…
I think his point is that, as a self-sufficient MGTOW, he doesn’t need to rely on anybody else (specifically, groups of chattering women) to get his chores done. I mean, ignoring the fact that Other People invented and manufactured his washing machine, Other People manufacture, deliver, stock, and sell him his detergent, Other People make the fabric and assemble his clothes and ship them, and he’ll need Other People to service his machine should it break. And some of those Other People are undoubtedly women.
Regardless, it’s certainly a 180 from the usual “we should all live like the cavemen did” posts.
I don’t understand. I’m just going to assume he accidentally posted in the mgtow subreddit when he meant to post in the “I love my appliances” subreddit.
@ mish
There’s probably someone at Hotpoint customer services reading an email and going “Eh, do we even sell ‘cock carousels’?”
I felt like this the first time I realized I could simply go to Walgreen’s to buy the things I needed instead of hoping my father had time to go to the store. Instead of sitting around waiting, I could just get it. It changed my life.
@ t b tabby
To tie this thread into the art one on the other page, Artemisia Gentileschi was the first woman to be admitted to the Florentine Academy of Fine Arts.
The practical upshot of that was, she was then allowed to buy her own art supplies rather than having to get her dad to buy them for her.
I think their is a possibility this post may have been made by a veritable unicorn: the one MGTOW who is actually a man going his own way. And to happens to have used all the time and resources he has freed up to become an appliance enthusiast. If so, he will likely eventually catch on that no one else on the subreddit has, in fact, gone his own way; and will follow Mish’s advice and decamp for a proper “I love my appliances” subreddit.
Well, it’s no Daz commercial, but the guy really does like his laundry.
And … that’s kinda neat, really. There is a quiet satisfaction in getting the basic chores out of the way efficiently, and if he wants to pause a moment and give credit to the tool as makes that happen, good for him!
I think the subtext of this post is that this MGTOW has unlocked the “Laundry Is No Object” achievement on Steam, and wants to express that he doesn’t need a woman to do his laundry for him. He does this with only a minimum of misogyny!
But never fear, the other MGTOWs have filled that gap for him:
I guess “wanted to make a buck” isn’t a real motive, and “women who invent stuff to make their own lives easier” don’t exist.
There’s a second comment thread on the post, that somehow manages to drag sexbots into the conversation, while mocking both consent and slavery, in three little comments. So lest you thought MGTOWs were making advances toward the ultimate goal of not letting women live rent-free in their heads, never fear, it isn’t happening.
@ Alan Robertshaw:
“‘There’s probably someone at Hotpoint customer services reading an email and going “Eh, do we even sell ‘cock carousels’?”
While a coworker asks, “And if we do, how do I get one, and what kind of service warranty do I need to get?”
@ GSS ex-noob
Credit where it’s due: buttoning shirts is hard.
I assume it’s one of those routine things you just kind of do on autopilot, so I have no idea why I frequently skip buttons altogether. Not to mention that even though I started buttoning the top button on my shirts like a year ago, I haven’t been able to update the routine and still start buttoning from the second button, and have to go back to do the top one.
@ masse mysteria
I sometimes wear shirts with detachable collars. So they’re fastened with collar studs. And if you think buttons are hard! 😀
OT: Some good news.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/rioters-set-portland-ice-facility-on-fire-as-federal-agents-shoot-barrage-of-pepper-bullets-in-an-attempt-to-disperse-crowd/ar-BB1fxkDm?ocid=msedgntp
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants:
I mean, ignoring the fact that Other People invented and manufactured his washing machine, Other People manufacture, deliver, stock, and sell him his detergent, Other People make the fabric and assemble his clothes and ship them, and he’ll need Other People to service his machine should it break. And some of those Other People are undoubtedly women.
You’d think that the pandemic’s revelation of the fragility of the supply chain have underscored the interconnectedness of humanity by now.
@ Alan Robertshaw:
“‘There’s probably someone at Hotpoint customer services reading an email and going “Eh, do we even sell ‘cock carousels’?”
@ObSidJag:
While a coworker asks, “And if we do, how do I get one, and what kind of service warranty do I need to get?”
As of 2015, one could be found at Balboa Park in San Diego, California.
(@Alan: Warning for where they got the tails for their horses:)
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2015/feb/03/balboa-park-carousel-history-predates-1915-expo/
Assembling a Cock Carousel from vintage carousel roosters could have the potential to be a good consuming geekish hobby, with the opportunity to learn vintage machine history and maintenance and accrue useful life skills thereby.
@ full metal ox
Aww, bless you for that; that is so sweet and considerate!
‘Historical’ stuff like that doesn’t really affect me I must confess. The past is past as it were. It’s just stuff in the present that gets to me. Having a nice row with the racing fraternity about the Grand National!
But that was actually very interesting. There’s a fairground museum that I’ve driven past loads of times that I really want to see; but I can never find it! I’m beginning to think maybe it’s just hoax signs like we were talking about before.
Fun fact though, English merry-go-rounds are the only ones to go anti clockwise!
(Or is it clockwise? Well, the other way to everyone else anyway)
I just tossed a load of king-size sheets into my washer. Way more convenient than going down to the river and banging them on rocks. I’m going to make my husband hang them out on the line, though, because he’s got longer arms.
@Masse_Mysteria: no kidding. I’ve been buttoning my own shirts upwards of 50 years now and I STILL get it wrong semi-regularly. Especially when the bottom button has fallen off and I haven’t put it back on. Starting from the bottom is the only hope I have of getting them straight. Being at home this past year has at least maximized my use of t-shirts and sweatshirts. Which I sometimes put on backwards.
@Chris Oakley: rimshot.
Re: the sale of cock carousels, if you don’t want to go full fairground attraction, I suppose you could get a giant lazy susan and some dildos?
I’m trying to make any sense of this, I’ve constructed a scenario in my head wherein a shy hapless 30-something bachelor living with his parents, has just been told by his retired ma and pa that they are no committed to doing his laundry any longer. Diss smally facing the maw of the mysterious metal beast that his parents kept in the cellar,he had no alternative but to wax nerdishly (always helps me to disconnect from boredom) on the not exactly complex button pushing chore at hand
Otherwise, unless he’s well over 90 years old when the first automatic electric washing machines were invented (I looked it up) I can’t figure how he entertained the notion that his perspective on life might have been changed by confronting Mister Machine M. Machine.
@Alan Robertshaw:
Fun fact though, English merry-go-rounds are the only ones to go anti clockwise!
(Or is it clockwise? Well, the other way to everyone else anyway)
Every merry-go-round I’ve ever seen here in Yankistan has gone left-to-right from the standpoint of an onlooker and counterclockwise from the perspective of a rider; you’re the only guys not going widdershins.
Note also that a Pussy Carousel is a conceivable option for interested parties:
http://enchanted-tails.com/carouselcatsfrontsm.JPG
http://www.waterwinterwonderland.com/images/amusement/301/m004%5Ecarousel_from_roland_summit.jpg