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Straight men! It’s your sacred duty to be shitty at sex, because that’s what Genghis Khan would have wanted

Genghis Khan: Ladykiller

Fellas! You know how women are always begging you to be good at sex and maybe cuddle a little with them afterwards? Don’t do it! Because that’s how they get their hooks in you. And also because it’s unnatural for you to be in any way a considerate lover.

Or so says a gentleman called svas2137, posting in the MGTOW subreddit:

The idea to last long for hours to ” satisfy” a ₩hym@n [woman] like a p@r#$tar [pornstar] is a complete made up B$ to shame men to control them to hurt their ego so to gain more power and control over them and to satisfy selfish agendas bcoz the only power over men that ₩hym€n hav is $€x..

I’m not sure how men being good at sex makes women more powerful, but then again I’m no MGTOW.

Nature has alwz been about reproduction spreading ur $€€d to reproduce. Do u think in wildermess a lion or a bull or a wild elephant gives 2 fu@ks about the “feelings” , pleasure and desire of a ₩hyman??

That’s true. I don’t think that wild elephants spend a lot of time thinking about the pleasure of human women,

Or Chengis khan might have asked while fu@kin a ₩hym@n “Hey honey how are you feeling? gud? Lemmi.do a sweet pillow talk afterwards.”. Nope. It was all about spreading ur $eed passing ur genes to carry ur lineage for the survival.of the species. It alwz has been.

Take a tip from good old Chengis (aka Genghis) Khan and be a shitty lay. It’s what nature would want, if nature were a sentient being who was also kind of a dick.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
6 months ago

I wonder if they also know that the Khan’s eldest son Jochi may have in fact been illegitimate, as his wife had been kidnapped by another tribe and forced to be another man’s concubine for a time. The Khan had no quarrel accepting the child as his own, but if memory serves it did make succession an issue due to the protests of his second son Chagatai (who was considered a poor fit for the title himself).

Say what you will about him, but Genghis Khan was surprisingly far ahead of his time in many respects.

epronovost
epronovost
6 months ago

They would be shocked to know that Genghis Khan was actually a fairly tender husband toward his main wife Borte whome he rescued from captivity and to whom he wrote several love letters during his campaign. Then again Genghis Khan wasn’t the kind of man who spends his waking days complaining on internet about women and their life’s failure. He was the kind to conquer half the world, build a giant empire, raise cities to the ground and make the rest of the shit their pants when they stand in his way.

Anonymous
Anonymous
6 months ago

Also, is part of being a man an inability to write like someone who hasn’t suffered extreme brain damage?

Full Metal Ox
6 months ago

And now, presenting an opposing and far more entertaining viewpoint: a silly German disco band.

rabid rabbit
rabid rabbit
6 months ago

Genghis Khan was also perfectly aware that his daughters and daughters-in-law were much more suited to running an empire than any of his sons. See Jack Weatherford, The Secret History of the Mongol Queens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_History_of_the_Mongol_Queens

Robert Haynie
Robert Haynie
6 months ago

I’m not sure which this one hates more.
Women or a normal alphabet.
Or even proper spelling.

Moggie
Moggie
6 months ago

Fellas, is it gay to care about orthography?

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
6 months ago

There is, of course, a Kate Beaton comic for this occasion:

http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=25

Seriously, why all the random $ymb○\$ instead of letters? Are their models filters so strict/weird that the word “woman” needs to be disguised?

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
6 months ago

Seriously, why all the random $ymb○\$ instead of letters?

Wallet rape or whatever fool thing they call it now. “Birds only want your brass” is a central tenet of their religion cult.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
6 months ago

₩hym€n

At first I thought this was some kind of new cryptocurrency.

Aren’t these the same guys forever arguing that women are lesser creatures because of their inability to pair bond?

 in wildermess

Now there’s an unintentionally correct typo.

Battering Lamb
Battering Lamb
6 months ago

Are the translations also in the original post? Because that implies an extra level of insecurity right there.

.45
.45
6 months ago

@epronovost

I kind of figured that someone would come in and say “Hey, according to history, that Gengis Khan fella was actually a very considerate lover.” Thanks for basically doing that.

These Manosphere types and their refusal to Google anything pertaining to their pet theories beforehand are getting very predictable.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
6 months ago

@Full Metal Ox,

Talk about an earworm. Fun one, though.

Looked up the lyrics online, and found a copy of them here in German. Google Translate tells me this is what they’re saying in English:

——————————

Dschinghis Khan Lyrics

((Advisory – the following lyrics contain explicit language:))

ha hu ha
hu ha hu ha
hu ha hu ha
hu ha hu ha
hu ha hu ha hu ha hu ha

They rode in competition with the steppe wind, a thousand men (Haa, Huu, Haa)
And one rode ahead, all followed blindly, Genghis Khan (Haa, Huu, Haa)
Their horses’ hooves whipped through the sand
They brought fear and horror to every country
And neither lightning nor thunder stopped them (Huu, Haa)

Geng, Geng, Genghis Khan
Hey riders, Ho people, Hey riders, on and on!
Geng, Geng, Genghis Khan
Up brothers !, drink up brothers !, get up brothers !, again and again!
Let’s get some vodka (Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho)
Because we are Mongols (Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha)
And the devil will get us soon enough!

Geng, Geng, Genghis Khan
Hey riders, Ho people, Hey riders, on and on!
Geng, Geng, Genghis Khan
Hey men, Ho men, dance men, like always!
And you can hear him laughing (Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho)
Laugh louder and louder (Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha)
And he empties the jug in one go.

And every woman he liked he took into his tent (Haa, Huu, Haa)
It was said that the woman who didn’t love him didn’t exist in the world (Haa, Huu, Haa)
He fathered seven children in one night
And he just laughed at his enemies
Because nobody could resist his strength (Huu, Haa)

Geng, Geng, Genghis Khan
Hey riders, Ho people, Hey riders, on and on!
Geng, Geng, Genghis Khan
Up brothers !, drink up brothers !, get up brothers !, again and again!
Let’s get some vodka (Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho)
Because we are Mongols (Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha)
And the devil will get us soon enough!

Geng, Geng, Genghis Khan
Hey riders, Ho people, Hey riders, on and on!
Geng, Geng, Genghis Khan
Hey men, Ho men, dance men, like always!
And you can hear him laughing (Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho)
Laugh louder and louder (Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha)
And he empties the jug in one go … (Huu, Haa, Hu, Ha, Hu)

—————————————

How accurate these are to the real guy I don’t know; they were written in/around 1979, so probably not super-accurate.

Last edited 6 months ago by Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
Dalillama
6 months ago
Last edited 6 months ago by Dalillama
Lumipuna
Lumipuna
6 months ago

I know there’s a Finnish version of that song, because it featured as running joke in a silly 90s Finnish comedy film (along with some other cheesy disco hits). This clip probably doesn’t need subtitles, for what it’s worth:

ObSidJag
ObSidJag
6 months ago

@Dalillama:
Ah, bet me to it, but thanks for posting the link to one of my recently found pleasures!!!

Also, am I the only one wondering why that, er, uhm, post read as though the person’s 1st language wasn’t English, or that they were attempting to *sound* like they weren’t a native speaker?

Not that there’s anything wrong with speaking English as a 2nd language (I used to tutor such students *many* years ago and was always impressed with how hard they were willing to work to master what is, after all, a pretty jacked up language).

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
6 months ago

Agreeing with Ghengis being remarkably, dare I say, woke for his time.

Yes, boys, the manliest man ever — half of one percent of all men alive today descend from him — was, gasp, a feminist who really loved his wife.

Also, I live in a town with a lot of ESL speakers, and their grammar is way better than this.

(I will now disco dance.)

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
6 months ago

“feminist” for Genghis Khan is probably pushing it a bit. He was polygamous and I don’t remember his daughter inheriting anything or any of his officially important subordinate being women. What he was is not an asshole to women. (at least the one he lived with, I suspect the female civil casualties might have another opinion on that)

Mogwitch
Mogwitch
6 months ago

Hey, I know the impulse to stick it up to the historically illiterate, but I’m not really into praising one of the worst murderers in history just because he was surprisingly nice to some individual women, unlike all the others he murdered, or raped, or enslaved, or whose families he massacred, either personally or by command. Obviously being a successful brutal warlord meant he was unlikely to think in the same black and white stupidity as an incel, but he was still a brutal warlord.

Last edited 6 months ago by Mogwitch
Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
6 months ago

Mogwitch, I’m with you on this (Kate Beaton comics notwithstanding). I’m all for nuanced looks at historical figures, but. As you say, niceness to specific women does not a feminist make.

Though GSS ex-noob, given that manosphereans want to be awful to ALL women, I think you have a point that Genghis Khan is not the role-model they’re picturing! But then they never did have any awareness of historical accuracy, did they…

(Also, brutally-portrayed Mongol attacks are what made me give up on Season 2 of one of my favourite shows, so ugh.)

Full Metal Ox
6 months ago

And now for a truthful song (that nonetheless bangs) about a romanticized violent historical figure:

Alan Robertshaw
6 months ago

@ full metal ox

I’m glad that video mentioned the handwriting story; that’s one of my favourite Dick Turpin facts. I’ve been in the cell Dick was held in. Just on a visit to York Gaol; not as an actual prisoner.

Speaking of Yorkshire, if you ever want to pretend to be from there; whenever anyone tells you the price of something, just say “At least Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask!!!”

But Horrible Histories did do Ghengis too.

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
6 months ago

@ Full Metal Ox, that song is great. I just played it for my kids; they’re now wandering around the house singing it. 😁

Mogwitch
Mogwitch
6 months ago

@Full Metal Ox

As a fan of both Horrible Histories and Adam Ant, that was wonderful.
Stand and deliver

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Full Metal Ox
6 months ago

@Mogwitch:

As a fan of both Horrible Histories and Adam Ant, that was wonderful.
Stand and deliver

Thank you for supplying cultural context, and a reminder that Horrible Histories was parodying not only the romanticized highwayman trope but a specific and then-contemporary pop-cultural reference.

@Bookworm in hijab:

You can therefore also show your kids “Stand and Deliver” as the source material, as well as a reminder that the 1980’s were a silly place.

@Alan Robertshaw:

Speaking of Yorkshire, if you ever want to pretend to be from there; whenever anyone tells you the price of something, just say “At least Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask!!!”

And boy, has that line gained unexpected significance over the past year.

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
6 months ago

Genghis was “feminist” for his day. And more than these chuckleheads. He was kind to his wives and daughters and didn’t hate all women. He horribly murdered them equally with the men when towns were sacked. As murderous conquerors go, he wasn’t the worst. He just covered the most ground.

I was certain I wouldn’t recognize @Mogwitch’s link, but 10 seconds in I had a flashback to the 80s, including the TV I saw it on and the couch I was sitting on. Yep.

I looked at the first, uh, “quote?” and when I managed to parse the part before the dumbass spelling came in, I realized: this miggie is advocating (advertising?) premature ejaculation.

Trying to rationalize the fact you can’t keep it up, douchebag?

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
6 months ago

You can therefore also show your kids “Stand and Deliver” as the source material, as well as a reminder that the 1980’s were a silly place.

I’m too young to really rememberthe 80s, but I have my school photos from those days to prove the truth of that statement!

My son adores the Loreena McKennit songification of the Alfred Noyes’ poem The Highwayman , so the more highwayman-themed stuff I can show him, the happier he will be (and isn’t it weird what kids choose to love? Dinosaurs, unicorns, 18th-century robbers…)

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
6 months ago

I love how this thread has gone from discussing how MGTOWs are creepy, to sharing 80s music videos 😁

Full Metal Ox
6 months ago

@Bookworm in hijab:

My son adores the Loreena McKennit songification of the Alfred Noyes’ poem The Highwayman , so the more highwayman-themed stuff I can show him, the happier he will be (and isn’t it weird what kids choose to love? Dinosaurs, unicorns, 18th-century robbers…)

Then here’s further fuel for his fixation (although this song has a far broader scope of meaning):

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Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
6 months ago

Full Metal Ox, I will show him that in the morning! We’re deep into it now; no signs of him changing his major interest. He loves wearing a mask because “highwaymen would wear one, too!” Whatever works, I guess? Though I doubt highwaymen used hand sanitizer…

Dalillama
6 months ago

@Bookworm
Highwaymen, is it? Irish music has some good ones:

https://youtu.be/RYA_MO_w_Xs

https://youtu.be/KpkqJVGzQUQ

More later, my phone’s being a pain.

Alexis Filth
6 months ago

Do… do they not realize that being “good at sex and able to last for hours” tends to be fun for both parties?
Do they just think anything that isn’t ejaculation is boring or unpleasant?

What a sad sex life to have.

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
6 months ago

What a sad sex entire life to have.

Not that you weren’t correct. I just think their whole lives must be pretty miserable.