We live in an age unusually receptive to conspiracy theory — with a veritable army of QAnoners caught up in baroque, sadistic theories of retribution against political and cultural elites; with the vast majority of Republicans believing (or purporting to believe) that, actually, Donald Trump won the election; and with a cohort of Americans convinced that Bill Gates is planning to plant microchips in their bodies with a vaccine shot.
Despite all of this competition, incels still manage to put forth their own conspiracy theories that are just as creative as any flat-earther’s. And the incels’ theories have the added benefit of kind of making you sick to your stomach whenever you encounter them in the wild.
Consider the “blackpilled” antisemite calling himself GameDevCel who recently proposed, in a post on the BlackpillClub forums, that “[t]he Jews are behind the simultaneous hypersexualization and sexual segregation of fertile teenagers from the wider male population.”
In other words, he’s complaining that the Jews allegedly in charge of the entertainment business and cultural norms are hypersexualizing “fertile teenagers” — a.k.a. underage girls — yet not letting older dudes fuck them. Which is clearly, in the OP’s mind, a terrible way to simultaneously frustrate and oppress the hapless adult male, especially if he’s an incel.
GameDevCel tries his best to explain the consequences of this dastardly Jewish plot in a rant that is muddled and confusing and wrong on every count.
yeah its called feminism and the (((elite))) have been pushing it for extra sheckles in taxing women’s labor and breaking up the family unit for easily controllable docile citizens.
You know, if you plan to be an out-and-proud antisemite, you should probably know how to spell “shekels.”
These state run indoctornation factories called schools are used to mold the young minds in the way the government wants along with welfare programs to incentivize shitskin [Black] like breeding strategies.
What what what? Even if we set aside the racism here, none of this is making any sense. The “(((elites)))” are “hypersexualizing” teen girls in school? How? Why?
Seriously, dude, the only people here “hypersexualizing” teen girls are you perverts. It’s telling that the only examples of this sort of “hypersexualization” anyone in this thread can offer are 1) the movie Cuties, 2) parents taking their kids to gay pride parades, and 3) a St. Louis couple teaching their 3 and 5 year old daughters to pole dance.
But let’s get back to GameDevCel’s rant
It is why colleges are pushed so hard so white women can get fucked by multiple Chads and settle down with some beta provider in late 20s and have a few autistic kids in their 30s.
The point of higher education is to provide a place for “white women [to] get fucked by multiple Chads?” Why would colleges even bother to teach anything if that’s the goal?
They love any fornication except for an older established man mentally and financially ready to start a family with a 14 year old virgin, which is the hallmark of stable well adjusted societies.
Are you Woody Allen, because this sounds suspiciously like the plot to Manhattan. (Oh, but the girl in that movie is supposed to be 16. Sorry.)
The kikes hate this, hence all the shit they spew in the mainsteam media.
Ok, I guess this isn’t Woody Allen writing this.
>tl;dr marry a virgin no matter how young and homeschool the children
Don’t even consider marrying anyone, incels, until you’ve drained all the toxic sludge from your brains.
Naturally, several other commenters offered their own take on the alleged evil of keeping middle-aged men from raping “fertile teens.”
According to a commenter called Nihilistcorpse,
Only Chad can get something like this
Something like what? A 14-year-old bride?
while an Incel would be caught before it even began or if he’s a rich motherfucker with Joolywood connections, it’s the only reason why you see Chads deflowering virgins left and right while a non-Chad doesn’t even get the chance.
Either way, it’s over for us and stuff like this ain’t in our own favor.
Another commenter, berserkercel, offers his reflections on what he calls the “lie of ‘female independence,'” suggesting that the forces of world capitalism (or perhaps the alleged worldwide Jewish conspiracy) were pushing women into the workplace for short term monetary gains. For some reason the alleged (((elites)) also insist on
Making ages 12-17 “paedophilia” in the eyes of the UK public. So men only marry used up foids who can’t pairbond with the inevitable subsequent divorces of roastie foids. Creating legal fees and inheritance tax for the tax-man under the guise of “feminism” and “protecting vulnerable women”. …
Not to mention lowering the western birth rate (successfully) by using women’s own
natureartificial, and socially unacceptable (back in the day), hypergamy against them. By saying they- foids- are entitled to Chad as a boyfriend, fuck buddy andFathersperm donor through shit femsperg magazines on any Supermarket shelf.Hence the rise of the facebook dog lady.
It’s over.
If any of that makes sense to you, well, I’m impressed. I read this shit for a living and I can understand only about half of that word vomit.
The only thing that’s clear is that these guys really do need to be, well, segregated from “fertile teens” and adult women alike.
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@Cyborgette
I was originally going to have many more questions, but then I learned that I could only have 10. I had to cut out more than 20 questions. I am poor/have no money, so I had to go with the free plan, but once I have enough money, I shall be able to create bigger surveys.
Also, how do you think I could make my questions less “too general”?
Hm
Ah, I see. You just remined me of socialism. And I am basically socialist, in a way lol
Huh. I will do better in my next survey.
@mcbender
Yes, I am a little confused about that.
Ah, I see what you mean. But that was not my goal – it was mainly comparing feminists/MRAs on several areas.
Well, yes, but also egalitarians/humanists/secularists/other. That was the other identifications.
Well, this wasn’t the only place I posted it.
Ah. Good to know. (Sorry I forgot the Judaism part.)
Thank you for what you have said so far. This was all very good. I shall take this into consideration the next time I do a study.
@Elaine The Witch
All I did was ask people to fill out a survey. I didn’t come here to traumatize you. If you don’t want to represent feminists – fine.
@ Alan
Hopefully your survey is done by someone who’s actually taken a college course on research and ethics and not just some c highschool student who wants attention
@acid
Your about aa traumatizing as a splinter. My post is just to tell you your annoying and your behavior and hate boner you have formed for me is something I’m not going to deal with so maybe stop running off to your little blogs to call me all the things your to chicken shit to say to my face like a big boy. But i know you don’t want to get band because where would you get attention from then. You need some material to strike a hate boner to.
@ Elaine
Well it’s from the Government; so I wouldn’t bank on it.
@Alan
You ever see this ad?
Mom had a copy on the wall at work ’til she retired. (She worked for an organic farming advocacy group)
I’m a bit surprised that anyone thinks Elon Musk, or any of the other ultrarich, actually intend to go to colonise Mars. They won’t be able to take their fancy yachts, luxury foods, and celebrity friends to Mars. I think Musk wants to send out a colony group to prove how much smarter he is than the rest of us, the folks at places like NASA especially. It’s the same reason he came up with that half baked scheme to rescue the Thai kids trapped in a cave, and then made accusations against the expert diver who helped the actual rescue.
@ dali
Ooh thanks; that’s wonderful! I can get some use out of that; especially with the beef reference.
I have actually heard not implausible arguments, even from eco-minded folks, that limited use of DDT may still have a place in areas with rampant malaria. They might want to rebrand though.
Did you know that Roundup, the weedkiller, is essentially just agent orange?
Well, I created a new study, one that focuses on MRAs, and I hope it addresses the problems that many of you brought up.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BLWKQ8L
@Alan
That shit is dangerous. It gave one of my uncles cancer after being exposed to it for year on his job.
@Acid Kritana
Once again, your poll proves nothing. Internet polls are notorious for the fact that it is pretty much impossible to get a representative sample, which would be necessary to prove anything.
Because 1. it completely ignores intersectionality and 2. the idea of who “has it worse” is extremely vague. It’s a common misrepresentation among MRAs that this is what feminism is about, making it a bit loaded.
I don’t think you’ll find many of others here.
Then ask whether someone is trans or cis.
Yes, but it’s still not a gender identity, which is what your poll asserts. Most intersex people who identify with the gender they were assigned at birth refer to themselves as ipsogender.
I can only represent myself, by definition.
There is no way you get an unbiased result out of this. Please take a basic statistics course and come back.
Learn a bit about the kinds of people you want to survey?
For a socialist you don’t seem to know much about left wing politics.
In that case, that would be your population of study. Population in this context doesn’t mean everyone, it means a subset of society you are trying to study. If you actually wanted this to be statistically relevant, you would need thousands of feminists and MRAs to take the survey and would need to show that they are representative of their respective group. Since those are really 2 separate populations, having one survey for both doesn’t make much sense anyway.
There are also many different kinds of feminists, though IIRC last time you didn’t know what those were and made up a bunch.
Still doesn’t sound like you’re getting a representative sample.
Edit: and your new poll has almost all the same problems as your old one, not least of which is your lack of methodology or representative sampling. Maybe take a statistics 101 course and come back?
@ Elaine
Indeed; and DDT is still present in people in the US today. This is one of the things we should maybe mention in our response.
https://www.cdc.gov/biomonitoring/pdf/ddt_factsheet.pdf
@naglfar
he’s like a junior in high school, he won’t be taking those classes for at least another 3 years. And that’s assuming this kid is going to go to college.
@Alan
Yeah, he the beat the cancer and bought his new fishing boat with the money he got for compensation when they linked it to cancer, but it still happened.
@ elaine
I’m glad some good came of it*. But cancer, ugh. I hate it viscerally; as if it were personified. I literally wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I confirmed that when Limbaugh shuffled off this mortal coil. I found I couldn’t celebrate. Which is ironic because if he’d been hit by a bus or something I’d be all distasteful.
(*I’m happy for him he got a boat; I’ll blot out the fishing.)
@Acid Kritana
The age section should be less granular. That’s a lot of 5-year tranches to scroll through. There’s not much statistically meaningful difference between a 53 year old and a 56 year old, or a 19 year old and a 21 year old (who you have in two different categories). Usually surveys split people up into age cohorts, like high school (14-18), college-ish (19-24), young adult (25-34), and so on.
“Do men or women have it worse?” is, as Naglfar pointed out, vague and loaded. What is the “it” in this scenario? Is it something quantifiable? Men have worse outcomes in some areas, women have worse outcomes in others. It’s like asking whether blue or yellow is the better choice. The answer is “it depends”.
And lastly, what are you hoping to prove, or what questions are you hoping to answer with this survey? Are you trying to find out if different flavors of MRAs skew towards certain demographics?
@Buttercup
From what he’s said, I think he’s still hung up on trying to prove to me that there are loads of LGBT MRAs, and I guess he gave up on “the list” so this is his next effort. It seems that’s what he’s trying to prove.
I don’t think he’s going to come back and answer you guys. the kid is a coward with a fragile ego. Your typical mra
I read the headline and thought, “The words are all English… and it seems grammatically correct… but…” and then luckily Don Draper (who would think these guys are WAY too chauvinist and pervy) expressed my feelings.
Rule of thumb: anything anyone blames on “Teh Joos” is projection of something they’re doing themselves, or would like to. For centuries.
@Elaine: I LOL at your “they attracted to braces, acne, baby fat, new body odor problems, and awkward sweating.”
I’d have made a terrible child bride, considering I didn’t have a period till age 15.5.
@Naglfar: which means my dad wouldn’t have gotten any goats in trade for me. I was way too old for the likes of developing countries before I could breed. And aren’t the countries that do have lots of child brides inhabited by people with a lot more melanin than the RWNJ like? They want us to be more like Niger and Bangladesh?
@Alan: Let’s go right to the point and call it “Croatoan 2”. There’s a Roanoke now thanks to later suckers, so let’s be more blatant.
Having people dependent upon you for everything is very appealing to men with giant egos. If they have to depend on you even for air, that’s more funner.
But I suspect the first colony on Mars will be entirely Mandarin-speaking.
DDT has one good use that I know of, and that’s if it’s carefully targeted in areas with rampant malaria (and the mosquitoes there aren’t immune to it). I don’t think that applies to Britain.
There was DDT in the floor wax my mom used when I was a baby. That I crawled around on and then stuck my fingers in my mouth. Pretty sure it led to a lot of my autoimmune issues, along with all the other toxic chemicals that were so fashionable back then.
@Naglfar:
I expect that a Mars colony, in its early years, would be a place where someone treating people that badly would quickly meet with a fatal “accident”.
@alan A couple of things I remember from my chemistry of industry class (granted this was almost 3 decades ago):
1) I get why DDT was so popular. It is very toxic to most bugs you want to kill, particularly mosquitoes, and not very toxic to bees. But it’s extreme persistence in the environment makes it extremely problematic. I get why it’s tempting to use on mosquitoes to cut down on malaria transmission, but those molecules are going to be out in the environment causing problems for a long time.
2) The agent orange used in Viet Nam was made by a fairly sloppy process, so it was actually a mixture of similar compounds, rather than a single compound. There was never much effort to isolate and study the various compounds in the mixture, so it is not surprising it was bad for folks. Processes are more precise today, so while Roundup is plenty bad for you (and neighboring crops), it’s not quite on agent orange’s level.
(Edit: Roundup and agent orange are a bit more chemically different than I remembered, but my point about agent orange be particularly bad due to sloppy formulation still stands.)
Mars exploration: I can’t help but feel like the issue of low gravity is often being ignored because this will quickly cause humans to have muscles that could prove debilitating for use on Earth.
@An Impish Pepper
I watched Cuties and was an am a huge fan of the film. I liked it as a coming of age story and watching a young girl battle between two very different worlds.
I also like the back story with the mother’s distress at her husband returning with a second wife.
I genuinely do not understand the uproar about the movie nor how people have claimed it is a paedophile dream.
@tim guegueguen : I do think Elon Musk specifically want to go to Mars. The other might have better sense than him, but there’s a couple of reason for them to go, like glory seeking, the potential for them to be unpunished abusers, the ability to better keep the new nation under their controls, things like that.
One of Trump’s last acts in his post-loss flurry of activity, was an order to favour graeco roman architecture for federal buildings. You can write your own papers on the sentiments behind that.
But now brutalism is back on the menu.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/24/biden-trump-federal-architecture-order-471459
@ moregeekthan
Kurt Vonnegut mentioned agent orange a lot in interviews. He thought it was an example of how science would always be abused. That was on the basis that AO was supposedly just invented for agricultural reasons then got adopted by the military. He implied that his brother had been involved. And his brother is often an insert in the stories as the scientists who carry out work without thinking of the consequences.
Although as far as I’ve been able to find out, his brother just invented cloud seeding to make it rain. So maybe Kurt was generalising a bit.