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“The Jews are behind the simultaneous hypersexualization and sexual segregation of fertile teenagers from the wider male population,” incel declares

We live in an age unusually receptive to conspiracy theory — with a veritable army of QAnoners caught up in baroque, sadistic theories of retribution against political and cultural elites; with the vast majority of Republicans believing (or purporting to believe) that, actually, Donald Trump won the election; and with a cohort of Americans convinced that Bill Gates is planning to plant microchips in their bodies with a vaccine shot.

Despite all of this competition, incels still manage to put forth their own conspiracy theories that are just as creative as any flat-earther’s. And the incels’ theories have the added benefit of kind of making you sick to your stomach whenever you encounter them in the wild.

Consider the “blackpilled” antisemite calling himself GameDevCel who recently proposed, in a post on the BlackpillClub forums, that “[t]he Jews are behind the simultaneous hypersexualization and sexual segregation of fertile teenagers from the wider male population.”

In other words, he’s complaining that the Jews allegedly in charge of the entertainment business and cultural norms are hypersexualizing “fertile teenagers” — a.k.a. underage girls — yet not letting older dudes fuck them. Which is clearly, in the OP’s mind, a terrible way to simultaneously frustrate and oppress the hapless adult male, especially if he’s an incel.

GameDevCel tries his best to explain the consequences of this dastardly Jewish plot in a rant that is muddled and confusing and wrong on every count.

yeah its called feminism and the (((elite))) have been pushing it for extra sheckles in taxing women’s labor and breaking up the family unit for easily controllable docile citizens.

You know, if you plan to be an out-and-proud antisemite, you should probably know how to spell “shekels.”

These state run indoctornation factories called schools are used to mold the young minds in the way the government wants along with welfare programs to incentivize shitskin [Black] like breeding strategies.

What what what? Even if we set aside the racism here, none of this is making any sense. The “(((elites)))” are “hypersexualizing” teen girls in school? How? Why?

Seriously, dude, the only people here “hypersexualizing” teen girls are you perverts. It’s telling that the only examples of this sort of “hypersexualization” anyone in this thread can offer are 1) the movie Cuties, 2) parents taking their kids to gay pride parades, and 3) a St. Louis couple teaching their 3 and 5 year old daughters to pole dance.

But let’s get back to GameDevCel’s rant

It is why colleges are pushed so hard so white women can get fucked by multiple Chads and settle down with some beta provider in late 20s and have a few autistic kids in their 30s.

The point of higher education is to provide a place for “white women [to] get fucked by multiple Chads?” Why would colleges even bother to teach anything if that’s the goal?

They love any fornication except for an older established man mentally and financially ready to start a family with a 14 year old virgin, which is the hallmark of stable well adjusted societies.

Are you Woody Allen, because this sounds suspiciously like the plot to Manhattan. (Oh, but the girl in that movie is supposed to be 16. Sorry.)

The kikes hate this, hence all the shit they spew in the mainsteam media.

Ok, I guess this isn’t Woody Allen writing this.

>tl;dr marry a virgin no matter how young and homeschool the children

Don’t even consider marrying anyone, incels, until you’ve drained all the toxic sludge from your brains.

Naturally, several other commenters offered their own take on the alleged evil of keeping middle-aged men from raping “fertile teens.”

According to a commenter called Nihilistcorpse,

Only Chad can get something like this

Something like what? A 14-year-old bride?

while an Incel would be caught before it even began or if he’s a rich motherfucker with Joolywood connections, it’s the only reason why you see Chads deflowering virgins left and right while a non-Chad doesn’t even get the chance.

Either way, it’s over for us and stuff like this ain’t in our own favor.

Another commenter, berserkercel, offers his reflections on what he calls the “lie of ‘female independence,'” suggesting that the forces of world capitalism (or perhaps the alleged worldwide Jewish conspiracy) were pushing women into the workplace for short term monetary gains. For some reason the alleged (((elites)) also insist on

Making ages 12-17 “paedophilia” in the eyes of the UK public. So men only marry used up foids who can’t pairbond with the inevitable subsequent divorces of roastie foids. Creating legal fees and inheritance tax for the tax-man under the guise of “feminism” and “protecting vulnerable women”. …

Not to mention lowering the western birth rate (successfully) by using women’s own nature artificial, and socially unacceptable (back in the day), hypergamy against them. By saying they- foids- are entitled to Chad as a boyfriend, fuck buddy and Father sperm donor through shit femsperg magazines on any Supermarket shelf.

Hence the rise of the facebook dog lady.

It’s over.

If any of that makes sense to you, well, I’m impressed. I read this shit for a living and I can understand only about half of that word vomit.

The only thing that’s clear is that these guys really do need to be, well, segregated from “fertile teens” and adult women alike.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

you should probably know how to spell “sheckels

Close, it’s “shekels.”

They love any fornication except for an older established man mentally and financially ready to start a family with a 14 year old virgin, which is the hallmark of stable well adjusted societies.

Somehow I feel this is not the hallmark of stability, given that the areas with the most child marriages are developing countries.

Joolywood

Weak effort.

By saying they- foids- are entitled to Chad as a boyfriend, fuck buddy and Father sperm donor through shit femsperg magazines on any Supermarket shelf.

Somewhat curious what magazines and supermarkets these people think sell sperm.

Seth S
Seth S
1 month ago

I’ll never understand the people who insist that Bill Gates is a horrible person for this weird microchip plot when there are plenty of other blatantly transparent and provable reasons why he’s a horrible person who deserves to be hated, like how he “convinced” of Oxford U to not to make the COVID vaccine open source and instead got them to sell the rights to a company he can profit from.

You know, because his money is more important than the lives of people in poor countries and affordability of a vaccine for a deadly illness that has a high mutation rate when allowed to spread is no biggie.

I’m actually convinced that’s why these billionaires want to go to Mars so badly. So that they can just pack up and move when they’re done pillaging us. Guillotines are a lot harder to use when you’re more than 6 months of space travel away.

Point being, there are real, actual, believable and provable conspiracies out there. WHY ARE THEY NOT INTERESTED IN THOSE? Why go after the batsh*t ones that require Jewish space lasers or a basement in a pizza parlor that doesn’t have one??

Last edited 1 month ago by Seth S
An Impish Pepper
An Impish Pepper
1 month ago

So has anyone reading this actually seen Cuties? I have some suspicions about the polar opposite opinions that people have about it, but I don’t have Netflix or I would simply watch it for myself to verify said suspicions.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@Seth S

I’m actually convinced that’s why these billionaires want to go to Mars so badly.

That’s a possible reason, but I think there may be another motive at play: feudalism. Musk has already publicly said he’s interested in potentially having indentured servitude there, in which people would work for him to pay off the costs of the trip. With no labor laws, Mars would be an easy place to proclaim oneself dictator and also to get away with all kinds of human rights violations, up to and including slavery.

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

I can’t believe that these guys think that the average adult man is attracted to a child. The only time most normal people are attracted to a 14 year old, is when they themselves are also a 14 year old.

Also 12? the time that most girls start menstruating? how the hell is anyone most fertile from when they start menstruating. They don’t even have a regular cycle yet and probably won’t for the next year and a half.

at this point these guys just need to admit they attracted to braces, acne, baby fat, new body odor problems, and awkward sweating.

rabid rabbit
rabid rabbit
1 month ago

See, if these people had any linguistic talent whatsoever, they wouldn’t miss the chance for some great wordplay on shekels and shackles.

That being said, do I want to know who the Facebook Dog Lady is?

.45
.45
1 month ago

“Mentally and financially ready…”

Oh please, does that really describe you dude?

Full Metal Ox
1 month ago

@Naglfar:

That’s a possible reason, but I think there may be another motive at play: feudalism. Musk has already publicly said he’s interested in potentially having indentured servitude there, in which people would work for him to pay off the costs of the trip. With no labor laws, Mars would be an easy place to proclaim oneself dictator and also to get away with all kinds of human rights violations, up to and including slavery.

In space, no one can hear you sing “Sixteen Tons.”

Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
1 month ago

@David F., @Naglfar

[Y]ou should probably know how to spell “sheckels.”

Close, it’s “shekels.”

And I say it’s shackles. Take that, feminists.

Because I love words (second only to Chad, of course), I consulted Merriam-Webster and found to my surprise that the variant spelling of shekel is sheqel. And not only that. I discovered that the plurals of shekel are spelled, variously, shekels, shekalim, shekelim, and sheqalim.

You live, you learn. Unless you’re an incel or some other type of alt-righter.

ETA: Oops, ninja’ed by rabid rabbit. Curse you, rabbit!

Last edited 1 month ago by Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kevin
Kevin
1 month ago

@ Seth S, Naglfar

Re: Billonaires and offworld colonial ambitions, I refer you to Ben Elton’s novel Stark (late 1980’s I think.

rv97
rv97
1 month ago

@Seth

Some conspiracy theorists are self-proclaimed capitalists. They have no problem with certain groups of people being on top as long as it’s the “right” people. They think people like Bill Gates have been too “corrupted by Jewry” or some bullshit to deserve his or their fortune.

Look at Alex Jones – from the little I’ve seen from him via a John Oliver video, he’s advertised his own line of survival products, and I doubt such conspiracy theorists have a problem with his business.

I should hate Bill Gates more but I don’t have the energy to, even if what he stands for is to lock information behind closed doors for profit.

Last edited 1 month ago by rv97
Lumipuna
Lumipuna
1 month ago

Musk has already publicly said he’s interested in potentially having indentured servitude there, in which people would work for him to pay off the costs of the trip. With no labor laws, Mars would be an easy place to proclaim oneself dictator and also to get away with all kinds of human rights violations, up to and including slavery.

I can sort of see how this works psychologically. Funding and organizing a Martian colony from scratch wouldn’t be a money maker by any stretch (with or without slavery), but he probably thinks it in terms of “I could have a whole society of my own; being not only a political/financial leader but a hugely important and respected founding figure in everyone’s world view.”

See also, various leaders of fringe religious/political movements who historically founded colonies in remote locations on earth.

LollyPop
LollyPop
1 month ago

I started my period at 11, which was before my hips set into their adult place or I even had breasts. I wasn’t even my full height, for goodness sake. I think one of the most egregious lies of evopsych is that menstruating = childbearing.

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
1 month ago

@Naglfar

Musk has already publicly said he’s interested in potentially having indentured servitude there, in which people would work for him to pay off the costs of the trip.

Any chance you have the source? I want it for a Musk groupie but I couldn’t find a quote on the Google.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 month ago

I actually disagree with the idea that only perverts hypersexualize teen schoolgirls. There’s a lot of influences in our society to see teen schoolgirls as A – more sexual than the average one is and B – a prime target for “true male”.

Of course, that have nothing to do with elites (they perpetuate the system but don’t quite benefit from that here), nor with jews. And I think they would scream “CULTURE WARS” if we asked to stop sexualisation, especially of younger women.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@Big Titty Demon
Here’s an article that points out that his system of loans for people to work off basically amounts to indentured servitude.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
1 month ago

the variant spelling of shekel is sheqel. And not only that. I discovered that the plurals of shekel are spelled, variously, shekels, shekalim, shekelim, and sheqalim.

Presumably that’s because the original word is not spelled with latin letters at all, so these are all transliterations of “שקל”, plural: “שקלים”.
Transcribing from one alphabet to another often leads to such variations. It’ll probably also depend on where in the world you are. Jews are, after all, not monolithic.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
1 month ago

Re: Mars

There’s a novel called Moving Mars which posits that a Martian settlement would be mainly populated by groups called “binding multiples” in which many families would pool their money together to fund the trip, and thereby become, socially, a huge hyper-family.

But of course Elon Musk thinks of it as an individual effort only. My eyes are rolling so far back up into my head I can see my frontal cortex.

I feel like the reality would be that Mars and the Moon would be settled by governments first, not rugged entrepreneurs acting out their Atlas Shrugged fantasies.

LetoLethe
LetoLethe
1 month ago

I agree this person should learn to spell–or just shut up for all time–but so should you. Israeli currency is the shekel. Otherwise, great article, thanks.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 month ago

@Seth S

Point being, there are real, actual, believable and provable conspiracies out there. WHY ARE THEY NOT INTERESTED IN THOSE? Why go after the batsh*t ones that require Jewish space lasers or a basement in a pizza parlor that doesn’t have one??

When you look at who’s bankrolling QAnon, Fox News talk radio, podcasts, and other right wing social media, it starts to make sense. Keep them outraged about pizza sex and Hunter Biden, and they won’t notice their pockets being picked.

It feels more empowering to see themselves as In On The Big Secrets than as pawns and victims.

 So men only marry used up foids who can’t pairbond with the inevitable subsequent divorces of roastie foids.

And they don’t think the 12-17 year old would divorce them once they became “used up” (incelspeak for “aware of how awful incels are”)? Or that they themselves wouldn’t divorce her, or start cheating on her, once she became a shriveled up hag of 18? They would likely have to pay alimony in addition to child support, since their child brides wouldn’t be allowed to complete their education or have a job outside the house.

marry a virgin no matter how young and homeschool the children

How good at homeschooling would someone be who dropped out of school in the sixth grade so they could get married? How would she teach high school subjects that she never was allowed to learn? I don’t see Mr. GameDevCel here stepping up to fill the gap. If anything, he wants his kids to be as ignorant as he is. If they can’t read, they can’t be brainwashed by the ((((Elites)))).

He doesn’t want a family. He wants a cult.

 an older established man mentally and financially ready to start a family with a 14 year old virgin

Really questioning the “mentally” part here.

Pie
Pie
1 month ago

@Seth S

Point being, there are real, actual, believable and provable conspiracies out there. WHY ARE THEY NOT INTERESTED IN THOSE? Why go after the batsh*t ones that require Jewish space lasers or a basement in a pizza parlor that doesn’t have one??

Because the regular everyday business of enriching oneself to the point where you could buy Solomon and Croesus with your own pocket change by manipulation and monopoly and by stomping over the backs of the untermensch is the American Dream! You can’t speak out against that! It would end in socialism, which is literally the worst thing ever.

No, these temporarily embarassed billionaires need the crazy conspiracy theories because they separate the good billionaires from the bad. And Soros is getting on a bit, so Gates is gonna have to step up to be bogeyman number one.

@Policy of Madness

I feel like the reality would be that Mars and the Moon would be settled by governments first, not rugged entrepreneurs acting out their Atlas Shrugged fantasies.

There’s one tiny difference. Musk is gonna have to bring the untermenschen with him to the promised land, because he doesn’t have robot butlers yet.

Realistically though, it’ll probably be utterly horrible for everyone there, stuck in a tiny irradiated can in a bleak freezing toxic desert for years at a time, surrounded by libertarians, where you have to earn the right to your next breath of air.

Indentured servitude is gonna end real badly there. There will be fun times with the Space Pinkertons, and then everyone who can’t (or isn’t allowed to) get on a ship to return home will probably end up dead.

It’ll be a salutory lesson from which no-one will learn anything.

Last edited 1 month ago by Pie
Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

I’m all for space exploration; and if people want to sign up for this then good luck to them (they’ll probably need it.)

I would though call the new colony Roanoke 2; just to let people know what to expect.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
1 month ago

Realistically though, it’ll probably be utterly horrible for everyone there, stuck in a tiny irradiated can in a bleak freezing toxic desert for years at a time, surrounded by libertarians, where you have to earn the right to your next breath of air.

Only until that alien-built machine that creates a breathable atmosphere for Mars is turned on …

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 month ago

@Pie : realistically, most of theses enterprises will end up with everyone dead, not just the slaves.

Realistically, there’s no good way to make colony on mars without major risks for abuse. The slave program of Elon Musk is particulary suspicious, but realistically a colony is about one hundred persons isolated, without way homes, and very sensitive to manipulation due to isolation and all. It’s a very good recipe to create abuse nonetheless, and the fact you have debts or obligation isn’t anywhere as important as the fact you’re trapped in here and lack of cooperation mean death.

Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
1 month ago

The only thing that’s clear is that these guys really do need to be, well, segregated from “fertile teens” and adult women alike.

For that matter they need to be segregated from the rest of humanity.

mcbender
1 month ago

@An Impish Pepper

I don’t know if anyone else here has seen Cuties, but I have. I actually wrote a review of it last year and then just… forgot to publish it, so thanks for the reminder, I’ve actually done so now.

https://pointstick.wordpress.com/2021/02/24/thoughts-on-cuties-mignonnes-2020-film-by-maimouna-doucoure/

Short version is, it’s a messy film that tried to address some serious and important issues. I thought it had some serious problems that undermined its messaging, and I can’t exactly say I’m a fan, but it didn’t deserve the bad-faith dogpiling it got in the media (nothing does).

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@PoM
I predict that there will first be a bunch of billionaires trying to settle Mars, all will fail, and maybe later a smaller scale operation by a national space agency like NASA or the ESA will succeed.

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
1 month ago

@Naglfar

That’s a possible reason, but I think there may be another motive at play: feudalism. Musk has already publicly said he’s interested in potentially having indentured servitude there, in which people would work for him to pay off the costs of the trip.

And their debt is passed onto their children like in Trish Trash: Rollergirl of Mars? It’s the kind of system only a nice and sensible person agrees with.

Last edited 1 month ago by Masse_Mysteria
Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

I swear to go if I have to read one more line of anthropology and theory my eye balls are going to fall out of my skull.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
1 month ago

They love any fornication except for an older established man mentally and financially ready to start a family with a 14 year old virgin, which is the hallmark of stable well adjusted societies.

I’m gonna need a citation on this. Child marriage does occur in a lot of cultures (including many states in the US still) but I can’t think of anywhere or any time in which the middle aged man + minor girl marriage was a norm. Other than a few cults which are clearly not stable and well adjusted.

Last edited 1 month ago by weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
1 month ago

@Naglfar:

I’m actually convinced that’s why these billionaires want to go to Mars so badly.

That’s a possible reason, but I think there may be another motive at play: feudalism. Musk has already publicly said he’s interested in potentially having indentured servitude there, in which people would work for him to pay off the costs of the trip.

@Chris Oakley:

The only thing that’s clear is that these guys really do need to be, well, segregated from “fertile teens” and adult women alike.

For that matter they need to be segregated from the rest of humanity.

… 💡

@Lukas Xavier:

Presumably that’s because the original word is not spelled with latin letters at all, so these are all transliterations of “שקל”, plural: “שקלים”.

Interesting. Not only do they have a single character for “sh”, they even have a single character for “el”, which appears to be the character for “e” with an added diacritic.

@Buttercup:

When you look at who’s bankrolling QAnon, Fox News talk radio, podcasts, and other right wing social media, it starts to make sense.

The fossil fuel industry? Fox and a lot of that is the Murdochs, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the sOILdi Royal Family, and much of the rest is the Mercers, who are in the employ of the Russians, whose big export these days is natural gas. Add in the Kochs, with their vast coal and oil holdings in America, and a pattern clearly begins to emerge …

Banananananana dakry: still fat and deranged
Banananananana dakry: still fat and deranged
1 month ago

This is an awful lot of words for saying “I want to fuck children and don’t want to get called on it, so I’m going to blame a vast conspiracy against MEEE for the fact I can’t.”

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@WWTH

I can’t think of anywhere or any time in which the middle aged man + minor girl marriage was a norm.

Nor can I. It’s a common misconception (as seen in the thread with Lenona) that this was common, but it actually wasn’t ever very common.

@Surplus

Not only do they have a single character for “sh”, they even have a single character for “el”, which appears to be the character for “e” with an added diacritic.

Not exactly. Yes, there is a single character for sh, “ש,” but Hebrew is an abjad (a script where vowels are not written in most contexts). So the last character, “ל”, represents the “l” sound, while the character before, “ק”, is for the “ke” sound, with the “e” vowel implied. The mark you’re referring to as a diacritic, “י”, is the letter for a y or i sound.
Hebrew is also read from right to left, so the formatting might be screwy here.

Last edited 1 month ago by Naglfar
Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

Yeah, even the idea of the Romeo and Juliet couple. Romeo was like 17 and juliet was like 13. It’s still an age different that people would be concern for their daughter dating that big of age gap now, but they were both still minors in modern day legal sense. Romeo wasn’t some 50 year old man lusting after Juliet’s virginity to breed her until she turns the dread 18 and is used up.

In fact someone in that play was concerned about Juliet being up for courting at all cause she was barely just starting puberty.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
1 month ago

As he’s known of ’round these parts:

https://www.informant.news/p/christopher-cantwell-gets-41-months

Allandrel
Allandrel
1 month ago

When my mother did a lot of genealogy research, she found that Colonia-era Americans of Western European origin did have a lot of marriages where the groom was older… but it was a case of the braide being 18-20 and the groom 25-27. Nothing like what these scuzzoids want.

Acid Kritana
1 month ago

(I know this is different from the post, but please bear with me. Some of you will like it.)

If you identify as a feminist, MRA, or other, please complete the survey below. All answers will be analyzed, and no matter the results, the study will be published.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GLTQMY9

mcbender
1 month ago

@Naglfar

Thank you for explaining the Hebrew, that comment was bugging me but I couldn’t think of a concise way to answer it!

@Acid Kritana

I don’t see any way you won’t get an unusably biased sample for a survey like that. I’m not opposed to studying these things, but I don’t think you’re going to get any meaningful result out of it. (PZ Myers used to love proving that property of internet polls back in the day.)

Edit: having visited your website, I regret responding to your poll. You’re a hopeless buffoon.

Last edited 1 month ago by mcbender
Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

My bulldog knows his daddy is coming home soon cause I keep getting things ready and now ever night I swear he’s looking for him. My poor boy has been looking out the window watching the street like he’s waiting for him.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@Acid Kritana
Why do you keep trying to post off-topic comments in the middle of threads? Is it because you got tired of necroing old threads? Seconding what mcbender said about how your poll will be statistically useless.

In addition, your poll has a laundry list of other issues. For instance, the 2nd question and its idea of “who has it worse” is phrased very strangely, and is clearly a loaded question. The 3rd question seems to ignore the fact that politics is more complicated than conservatives and liberals, for instance leftism is omitted. The question about political parties is irrelevant outside the US, the question about religion omits Judaism while meanwhile Catholics and Mormons are both subsets of Christians. Assigned sex at birth doesn’t seem relevant, but intersex isn’t a third sex so much as an umbrella term for variations that don’t fit the male-female dichotomy and is also not a gender identity.

@mcbender
Ignore Acid, he’s just trying a new trolling tactic.

Acid Kritana
1 month ago

@mcbender

@Acid Kritana

I don’t see any way you won’t get an unusably biased sample for a survey like that.

I understand that some of the results will be biased, and I will also try to weight them as such. This study is merely a comparison of the two. Like I said, I’m going to publish the results no matter what.

I’m not opposed to studying these things, but I don’t think you’re going to get any meaningful result out of it.

I hope it is meaningful, but not necessarily.

(PZ Myers used to love proving that property of internet polls back in the day.)

I have no idea who PZ Myers is.

Edit: having visited your website, I regret responding to your poll. You’re a hopeless buffoon.

Thank you for completing the survey! I’ll try not to get biased results, and people responding, such as feminists, will help me with that. After I have received all of my answers, I will weigh them, and publish them. This is also to help know how much of MRAs/feminists are LGBT or atheist or something.

Thank you to everyone else who responds.

(P.S. I don’t care what you think about my site. Go ahead, hate it, no one will kill you or anything. All I’m here for, currently, is the study.)

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
1 month ago

@Acid Kritana

That is… a really bad poll. It’s not just the questions being too few and too general, it’s that they (especially the political ones) involve categorical errors – mistaking a tiny region of the political graph for the whole.

e.g. “3. Would you describe yourself as more of a… (Very Liberal <=> Very Conservative)”
My closest fit is “democratic socialist”, which is well off to the left, but not at all liberal. I don’t just want a welfare state; I want a controlled economy, the abolition of stock markets, banking that’s exclusively public sector and not profit driven, the abolition of the Presidency as the office of a single indisputable head of state. And that’s just for starters.
These are not liberal positions, they’re waaaaay out to the left of e.g. Bernie Sanders (and also not nearly as far afield as what you’ll see from syndicalists, anarcho-communists, or state communists). And also not even representative of what’s “normal” for other DemSoc folks. “Liberal” isn’t just inadequate and incorrect, it papers over a huge range of political beliefs, many of them wildly conflicting.

mcbender
1 month ago

I don’t think you understand what I meant by a “biased sample”. I do not mean “some of the individuals you are surveying will have biases”, that’s trivially true of any survey. We all have biases.

When you do a survey, you are trying to gather information about a population. In order to do so, you need to ensure that the sample is representative of that population. This is usually done by something like random sampling, e.g. if the total population you’re interested in were ten thousand, you might randomly choose 100 of them.

What population are you even interested in? “People who call themselves feminists and/or MRAs”? For one, that’s not nearly the entire spectrum of possible views on gender issues. For two, you’re not going to get a representative sample of that by coming here or to whatever other site you get, at best you’ll get a sample of “whichever WHTM readers cared to click your poll”. That’s not even a representative sample of readers of this site!

I agree with everything Naglfar said about the poll questions being badly formed or leading, also.

This is statistics 101 stuff. You’ve got a lot of learning to do.

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

@Acid

I’m going to say this cause I now know how you are and that you have a massive hate boner for me and the last time you were here you tried to speak to me. I want to ask you, why would I want to talk to you? I try to be nice to you cause I realized your a kid with a lot of issues I use to have, and you write post upon post about me being a narcissist. you called me a psychotics narcissist. you called me a narcissist bitch. you referrer to me as Lainy the Narcissist, even when I just simply annoy you. Why would I want to talk to you or respond to you? all you want is attention and fuel to stroke your hate boner to and I’m not about it. You’re just annoying and a troll. You really need to try and go get your attention needs from your mra, or mgtow or something.

Acid Kritana
1 month ago

@Naglfar

@Acid Kritana

Why do you keep trying to post off-topic comments in the middle of threads? Is it because you got tired of necroing old threads?

I stated that I knew that it wasn’t relevant, but I couldn’t find another place to put it. I just saw that this was the newest article, and it seemed okay.

Seconding what mcbender said about how your poll will be statistically useless.

All I merely trying to find is the statistical sections within feminists/MRAs/other. You wanted specific proof that plenty of MRAs are LGBT, and so I am trying to do that. This is not necessarily a comparison to the population – it is merely a look at the two, and a comparison of the two. If you respond, you add to it, which means that you add another LGBT feminist to the list, does it not?

So, if there is still a way for it to be statistically useless, I would like to know.

In addition, your poll has a laundry list of other issues.

I shall address each. I did ask for people to tell me what they think, and so I am glad you are.

For instance, the 2nd question and its idea of “who has it worse” is phrased very strangely, and is clearly a loaded question.

Can you please tell me how it’s questioned strangely? Whenever I would look at other studies on this, the question would be the same. Could you also please tell me how it’s loaded?

The 3rd question seems to ignore the fact that politics is more complicated than conservatives and liberals, for instance leftism is omitted.

I was merely looking at conservatives/liberals. I know I could have gone beyond that, but that was not the point. Thank you for pointing this out, though.

The question about political parties is irrelevant outside the US, the question about religion omits Judaism while meanwhile Catholics and Mormons are both subsets of Christians.

Wait, I left out Judaism? Oops. I thought I put it in…sorry.

Assigned sex at birth doesn’t seem relevant, but intersex isn’t a third sex so much as an umbrella term for variations that don’t fit the male-female dichotomy and is also not a gender identity.

I brought up “assigned sex at birth” because it allows me to trace identity, and to see who is trans and who is not.

Also, I know that intersex technically isn’t a “third sex,” but for those who are born that way, they can still identify that way.

@mcbender

Ignore Acid, he’s just trying a new trolling tactic.

How? I am merely trying to study people. How about you represent other people like you in the study? I’m not trying to sound rude or anything, but you could at least answer it. That way it WON’T end up biased.

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

@ Naglfar

Kid has obession issues.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ elaine

My bulldog knows his daddy is coming home soon 

Aww.

My dear departed doggo used to hear me coming home from miles away according to my neighbours. If I was in the Landy then that might not have been surprising; but sometimes I’d walk. Even then she’d somehow sense my approach ages before. Then she’d come bounding down the lane to meet me. It was ever so sweet. Unless it was dark. Then she’s just clatter into my knees. So we’d end up with me limping home and her all dizzy.

personalpest
personalpest
1 month ago

These state run indoctornation [sic] factories called schools are used to mold the young minds in the way the government wants along with welfare programs to incentivize shitskin [Black] like breeding strategies.

“The N-word is the most offensive word in human history. No one will ever come up with something even worse.”

“Hold my Deutsches Reichsbräu.”

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
1 month ago

@Alan

I’m so sorry for your lost of dog friend. Yeah our guy is so excited. He’s such a smart boy, he knows what I mean when I talk to him. He knows when I’m on the phone with my husband. He really is my husband dog first. He had him before I met him and now he’s our dog but he is most certainly my husband’s baby. When my husband gets home he will probably not leave my husband side the entire month and two weeks that he home and he will cry when he gets left out of the bedroom.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

Ah, there’s an irony. I just came here to invite people to take part in a survey.

But anyway, theoretically aimed at Brits, but nothing to say anyone else can’t give their thoughts. HM Govt are seeking consultation on pesticide legislation. We’re putting in a full response. But it would be helpful if as many people as possible could chip in.

I am of course assuming that people are generally a bit eco friendly round here. This might bite me in the ass.

“In a surprising result, 95% of respondents supported the use of DDT; and 5% said we should nuke the site from orbit, on the ground it’s the only way to be sure.”

But here it is anyway.

https://consult.defra.gov.uk/pesticides-future-strategy/sustainable-use-of-pesticides-national-action-plan/

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