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“If you can train dogs, you can absolutely train women,” MGTOW Redditor declares

Dogs don’t want to be trained by MGTOWs either

Over in the MGTOW subreddit, the regulars are again discussing the nature of women, as they are wont to do. Are women innately slutty and evil, or do they just not know any better?

One gentleman called mrcl_hrz comes down on the “they don’t know any better” side of the question, suggesting that women can be taught to overcome their slutty instincts.

“If you can train dogs, you can absolutely train women,” mrcl_hrz writes.

They are human after all, and not less intelligent than men.

I mean, it’s not like women are evil by nature or something. … The problem is that here in the west, women are raised to be degenerate subhumans, while men are becoming more and more servile and are exploited through and through.

In the world of the MGTOWs, this would be considered a moderate position on the “Woman Question.”

This society REWARDS women for undermining civilization. It cheers for “emancipation” (translation: being degenerate cumdumpsters), makes them non-accountable for destroying relationships (especially marriages), then gives them everything men own after a divorce AND they even get to keep and raise the children.

I’m sure MGTOWs would make such good fathers.

The problem is not the biology, but our current society. And most of those bad influences come from america, because all those degenerate subhumans who weren’t welcome in europe fled to america 200 years ago, and now, they brought their degenerate subhuman culture back to us. And in a few days, the degenerate subhumans will put on of them in the most powerful office in the world.

I’m not what you’d call a big fan of Joe Biden, but I had no idea he was a degenerate subhuman. I poked around some more in mrcl_hrz’s posting history and learned that the US is run by “a giant coalition of leftist fools, feminist landwhales and other subhumans.”

If only.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

Are women innately slutty and evil, or do they just not know any better?

I know better, I just choose to be slutty and evil, doing such evil things as having a job and going places of my own accord.

They are human after all, and not less intelligent than men.

This is somewhat of a radical thing for a MGTOW to say.

The problem is that here in the west, women are raised to be degenerate subhumans

…and there we go again.

It cheers for “emancipation” (translation: being degenerate cumdumpsters)

Weird, I checked the dictionary and that’s not what that word means. Maybe he needs a new, less horny dictionary?

And most of those bad influences come from america, because all those degenerate subhumans who weren’t welcome in europe fled to america 200 years ago, and now, they brought their degenerate subhuman culture back to us.

I feel I know what he is alluding to here.

Lainy
Lainy
1 month ago

But how do you train. Like with dogs you give them a treat when they do something good? Or because these mgtow their probably more fans of thr “beat it till it submits” kind of “training

numerobis
numerobis
1 month ago

<blockquote>gives them everything men own after a divorce AND they even get to keep and raise the children.</blockquote>

Either this jackalope had a shitty lawyer or he hasn’t actually gotten divorced.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@Lainy
I can’t speak for anyone else, but if someone wanted me to do something, rewards would probably be a good way to persuade me.

@numerobis
I’d put money on it that he’s never gotten divorced, the idea of losing everything in a divorce is a common bogeyman among MRAs/MGTOWs despite none of them seeming to have any experience with divorce.

Lainy
Lainy
1 month ago

@naglfar

I mean yeah, My husband can basically get anything out of me with like the promise of a back rub or a booty rub afterwards. Normally that’s how he gets me to lift weights with him. He is without a doubt the bigger slut between us though. He gets excited when he see’s my calfs. So maybe I should be the one training him.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 month ago

I doubt thoses guys are able to train a dog anyway. They may make the dog fear them, but teaching them anything without empathy ?

Lollypop
Lollypop
1 month ago

These guys seem to have built their perception of women entirely from the porn they like (but also hate), Real Housewives style reality TV and that one girl who was mean to them in high school. Either that or they are divorcees who appear to have treated their partner like crap and can’t believe they had the temerity to leave.

AJ Canberra
AJ Canberra
1 month ago

the idea of losing everything in a divorce is a common bogeyman among MRAs/MGTOWs despite none of them seeming to have any experience with divorce.

I an divorced, and it will shock you to know that these guys are, in my humble experience, completely full of shit.

Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
1 month ago

They are human after all, and not less intelligent than men.

Whoa. This is a MGTOWINO (a member of Men Going Their Own Way in Name Only).

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
1 month ago

@Naglfar

I feel I know what he is alluding to here

Yep, me too. I feel like it’s actually kind of historically inaccurate, though. Like some midcentury events couldn’t have happened if this version was correct…

@numerobis

Either this jackalope had a shitty lawyer or he hasn’t actually gotten divorced.

Someone would have to marry him first. I imagine it would be difficult to persuade anyone once he brought up the “subhuman cumdumpsters” part of his philosophy.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 month ago

because all those degenerate subhumans who weren’t welcome in europe fled to america 200 years ago, 

Well, that’s a disturbing spin on the “America originated from brave, resourceful immigrants with the courage to seek a new life elsewhere” story. Though it is true that America was once attractive to dissenters, troublemakers, and religious nonconformists (such as the Puritans and Quakers, who did not get along once they arrived here). Which group of degenerate subhuman immigrants is this guy descended from, I wonder?

This society REWARDS women for undermining civilization. It cheers for “emancipation” (translation: being degenerate cumdumpsters)

Translation of translation: unfair that women get to have sex and I don’t

makes them non-accountable for destroying relationships (especially marriages)

Translation: unfair that I can’t enslave and abuse women

then gives them everything men own after a divorce AND they even get to keep and raise the children.

Translation: unfair unfair unfair

MGTOWs waste so much time and energy worrying about things that will never happen for them, like marriage and losing everything in court. They’re like kids who are convinced quicksand is a bigger problem than it actually is, and vastly overestimate its prevalence.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@Lollypop

These guys seem to have built their perception of women entirely from the porn they like (but also hate), Real Housewives style reality TV and that one girl who was mean to them in high school.

They also seem to take heavy influence from teen comedy movies. They’re like those people who peaked in high school, but they didn’t actually peak and just are convinced that life should resemble those movies.

@Big Titty Demon
My guess is he’s avoiding those events because he secretly thinks those events were a good think, but doesn’t want to admit it.

@Buttercup
Are children often convinced that quicksand is a big problem? It doesn’t appear to be all that common.

Last edited 1 month ago by Naglfar
StaceySmartyPantsTwiceRemoved
StaceySmartyPantsTwiceRemoved
1 month ago

Yes, I’m a slut. Also, I’m the one doing the training.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ buttercup

They’re like kids who are convinced quicksand is a bigger problem than it actually is, and vastly overestimate its prevalence.

I’m planning a post lockdown walk along something called The Broomway.

My friends think I’m underestimating the quicksand risk.

But whilst 66 casualties sounds bad; that’s since 1600, so it’s not exactly Thunderdome.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
1 month ago

@Naglfar – Maybe not so much nowadays, but a few decades ago quicksand was a common trope in movies and TV shows (Princess Bride, Blazing Saddles, Swiss Family Robinson, Lawrence of Arabia, The Hulk, Gilligan’s Island, Lost In Space). Us kids spent a lot of time worrying about it. A lot. Also killer bees.

@Alan – Still, 66 deaths is an unusually high murder rate for a pedestrian path. And that’s just the bodies they’ve found.

Last edited 1 month ago by Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ buttercup

unusually high murder rate 

I’m not sure the quicksand is actually sentient.

Then again, the island is a military testing site; so who knows what they’re coming up with.

Kevin
Kevin
1 month ago

@ Buttercp Q. Skullpants

Well, prior to the American Revolution, there was a proportion of convict transportees among the settler intake.

Angiportus Librarysaver
Angiportus Librarysaver
1 month ago

But can sentient quicksand be trained???
I seem to recall there’s quicksand fetishists out there…
Read up on the Broomway before going near it. I think Robert MacFarlane had some things to say about it. Good luck.

TheKnd
TheKnd
1 month ago

But can sentient quicksand be trained???

Yes: comment image

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ angiportus library saver

I think Robert MacFarlane had some things to say about it.

Thanks for that. Had a read of an article he did and it was very interesting.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
1 month ago

I worried about cobras and leprosy as a kid. I did not live in an area where either of those things were commonplace problems. I saw quicksand and dangerous swamps, etc. a lot in movies and on tv (most memorably at the end of the Grenada adaptation of The Hound of the Baskervilles, but don’t recall worrying about it much in real life, although maybe I should have as I once lost a pair of sneakers to the low-tide mud of the Bay of Fundy.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

IIRC real life quicksand is very different than how it’s shown in movies. I’ve never seen it in real life but I’d imagine it’s less frightening.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ moon custafer

the Grenada adaptation of The Hound of the Baskervilles

When I was a kid, I had it in my head that Dartmoor was this uniquely dangerous place, and merely stepping onto the moor was a guaranteed sentence of doom. I think a lot of that is the reputation of the prison.

As a, sort of, grown up I’ve spent many a happy weekend on there. It’s truly delightful; and next to the infamous prison there’s a really nice tea shop.

Ah, the imagination of youth. Although I probably would avoid a cobra.

Lainy
Lainy
1 month ago

These guys remind me of the guys that day their wives cheated on them because she slept with someone after getting a divorced. They really think they have the right to own a woman and since they can’t own a woman like they can own a fridge they get upset and say they don’t even want one if they can’t have it their way.

Also the reason I only trust guys that say they got cheated on half way and ask them to tell me what happened because I’ve ran into way to many guys who decided that cheating was
A. Slept with someone after they broke up got divorced
Or b. Slept with someone to quickly after they broke up so they also count that as cheating.

Lainy
Lainy
1 month ago

When i was little I was really though quick sand was dangerous because episodes of Scooby doo used to show it being really dangerous and we’ll Velma said it was and she was the smart one so obviously i had to listen to velma.

Lollypop
Lollypop
1 month ago

@Naglfar I haven’t made that connection before but that’s really true! Not to shame anyone’s tastes (I love a good paint-by-numbers movie) but I imagine the MGTOWs response to any films with more depth or that do not directly cater to them would be confusion and anger, so their horizons never get broadened on that front.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 month ago

AFAIK, quicksands are about as dangerous as bears. I.E. on most encounter you won’t even notice some were here, with proper preparation you can survive a dangerous encounter, but if you’re unprepared or panicking odds are not in your favor.

Moggie
Moggie
1 month ago

@Ohlmann:

AFAIK, quicksands are about as dangerous as bears. I.E. on most encounter you won’t even notice some were here, with proper preparation you can survive a dangerous encounter, but if you’re unprepared or panicking odds are not in your favor.

I recently watched a youtube video on the subject, which talks about how the popular idea of quicksand is largely a myth, and how to survive it. It also mentions the quicksand fetish Angiportus Librarysaver referred to (I guess rule 34 even applies to colloids).

https://youtu.be/apRNMCuBQzc

bcb
bcb
1 month ago

It’s true! You can train women! Many women get “vocational training” so that they can get JOBS, which must be terrifying to the MGTOWs.

banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
1 month ago

Wasn’t “we can train dog, we can train woman” a joke in the original Borat?

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@Lollypop

I imagine the MGTOWs response to any films with more depth or that do not directly cater to them would be confusion and anger, so their horizons never get broadened on that front.

Whenever they try to interpret movies with more complexity they usually seem to miss the point entirely. For instance, their hilariously wrong interpretations of The Matrix, Fight Club, or other films.

@Moggie

I guess rule 34 even applies to colloids

Now I must determine whether slime girls are colloids.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

Fight Club

Fight Club is just Calvin & Hobbes now they’ve grown up.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ Angiportus Librarysaver

In view of your username, you might find this interesting.

https://nlisrael.typeform.com/to/mBRPdz9d

For anyone else who might be up for it; it’s this:

Burning the Books: A History of the Deliberate Destruction of Knowledge 

Richard Ovenden OBE, Bodley’s Librarian, Bodleian Libraries, University of Oxford 

and author of ‘Burning the Books: A History of the Deliberate Destruction of Knowledge’ 

In conversation with Dr. Raquel Ukeles, Head of Collections, National Library of Israel

Oh, it’s on Monday. 6 in the evening UK time.

Last edited 1 month ago by Alan Robertshaw
Lollypop
Lollypop
1 month ago

@Naglfar Ha! Yes I remember reading a Return of Kings review of Ex Machina that was probably the least thoughtful or perceptive thing ever committed to print.

bcb
bcb
1 month ago

@Naglfar

Whenever they try to interpret movies with more complexity they usually seem to miss the point entirely. For instance, their hilariously wrong interpretations of The MatrixFight Club, or other films.

It isn’t just the “complicated” stuff they miss. In The Matrix, they all missed the fact that the literal function of the red pill is that whoever takes it “gets woke!”

They also spent two years screeching about how “Rian Johnson wants to let the past die and kill it if you have to!” And I’ve heard a handful who think that the main theme of The Incredibles was “if everyone is special, then no one is special.” They couldn’t even figure out that the characters who say those two lines are the villains.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 month ago

@bcb

It isn’t just the “complicated” stuff they miss. In The Matrix, they all missed the fact that the literal function of the red pill is that whoever takes it “gets woke!”

Oh, I know. What I meant is that The Matrix isn’t a teen comedy, so they completely missed the main point: that it’s an allegory for being trans. Which always makes thread discussion of “taking the red pill” somewhat entertaining for me, since the red pill represents estrogen.

NautaliaC
NautaliaC
1 month ago

And most of those bad influences come from america, because all those degenerate subhumans who weren’t welcome in europe fled to america 200 years ago, and now, they brought their degenerate subhuman culture back to us.

I am confused. Which European colonists is he referring to here? I know my own ancestors were German Baptist Brethren at the time they settled first in Pennsylvania and that was a known abolishonist church by 1845.

Oh, wait. No, I think I know why he’s upset.

Lainy
Lainy
1 month ago

@bcb

To be fair the villain from the incredibles was a whinny nerdy fanboy who couldn’t let one rejection go so he obsessed over it and decided to try and kill many innocent women and children just to hurt the person who rejected him and also kill everyone that would be proof of his mediocrity. It’s not surprisingly at all if they look at him as something other then the villain. He describes the mra/ mgtow types perfectly

Full Metal Ox
1 month ago

@Naglfar; @bcb:

Consider also the Sisters Wachowskis’ Speed Racer; a major character has been surgically altered, is living under a new name and identity, and has to conceal his secret from his birth family—sound like a metaphor for anything?

(Unpopular opinion time: That movie is a fucking masterpiece—precisely because the Wachowskis had the brass monkey gonads to translate the cartoon tropes faithfully into live action, crank them up to eleven, and play it all perfectly straight. Cringeworthy character names! Psychedelic color schemes! Car Wuxia! Ninja battles for the whole family! The Mach 5 carrying more passengers in the trunk than the seats! Chim-Chim not only included but played by an actual honest-to-Caesar chimp! Various unnamed Wacky Racers as competitors! Even the dialogue meant to replicate stilted English dubbing managed to convey the air of a highly stylized acting convention like Kabuki.

I will die (hyperbolically) on this hill.)

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
1 month ago

@Alan Robertshaw:

I’m not sure the quicksand is actually sentient.

Then again, the island is a military testing site; so who knows what they’re coming up with.

In that event, I’d submit that the far likelier risk is of an unfortunate encounter with some unexploded ordnance that decides thereupon that it would prefer its name to be one word shorter, and the Broomway’s to be one letter shorter.

@Lainy:

To be fair the villain from the incredibles was a whinny nerdy fanboy who couldn’t let one rejection go so he obsessed over it and decided to try and kill many innocent women and children just to hurt the person who rejected him and also kill everyone that would be proof of his mediocrity. It’s not surprisingly at all if they look at him as something other then the villain. He describes the mra/ mgtow types perfectly

“Incel” is an even better fit. “I was rejected so I’ll destroy the world!” seems like it could have come right out of the Elliot Rodger playbook, erm, manifesto.

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ surplus

I’d submit that the far likelier risk is of an unfortunate encounter with some unexploded ordnance

Yeah; they do mention that.

Apparently though the biggest danger isn’t the unexploded ordnance. It’s the craters left by the stuff that did go off. The craters fill with very loose wet sand and that catches people out.

I am tempted though to make the pun-ish modification you mention to the sign. And I can also correct the grammar on the MOD one.

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Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 month ago

I guess thoses debris are MRAs, given that they explode and try to kill you if you so much as brush them.

Karalora
Karalora
1 month ago

@Full Metal Ox, I am with you 100% on the brilliance of Speed Racer. The way I like to put it is: The movie knows how silly it is, but the characters don’t know they’re in a silly movie, so we get the best of both worlds–total cartoon zaniness AND heart-rending sincerity.

Fabe
Fabe
1 month ago

@Full Metal Ox

Consider also the Sisters Wachowskis’ Speed Racer; a major character has been surgically altered, is living under a new name and identity, and has to conceal his secret from his birth family—sound like a metaphor for anything?

Interesting ,I never though of looking at Rex Racer/Racer-X like that before.

(Unpopular opinion time: That movie is a fucking masterpiece—precisely because the Wachowskis had the brass monkey gonads to translate the cartoon tropes faithfully into live action, crank them up to eleven, and play it all perfectly straight. Cringeworthy character names! Psychedelic color schemes! Car Wuxia! Ninja battles for the whole family! The Mach 5 carrying more passengers in the trunk than the seats! Chim-Chim not only included but played by an actual honest-to-Caesar chimp! Various unnamed Wacky Racers as competitors! Even the dialogue meant to replicate stilted English dubbing managed to convey the air of a highly stylized acting convention like Kabuki.

I will die (hyperbolically) on this hill.)

I’ll will join you on that hill anytime.

Also on the subject of the Matrix I’m not 100% sure but I think the upcoming 4th movie might feature a character whose gender changes when they’re plug into the simulation.

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Angiportus Librarysaver
Angiportus Librarysaver
1 month ago

Alan Robertshaw: Thanks. Surplus to Requirments: I had forgotten about the unexploded ordnance, or else I would have suggested that the Broomway is what you take to wind down after kayaking the Strid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkPUPxPfFHw

Alan Robertshaw
1 month ago

@ angiportus

That bloke who rolled was pretty lucky. Can’t be many people who go in there come out again. When it comes to swimming in the Wharfe I think I’ll stick with Bolton Abbey.

epitome of incomrepehensibility

@Fabe –

Also on the subject of the Matrix I’m not 100% sure but I think the upcoming 4th movie might feature a character whose gender changes when they’re plug into the simulation.

I don’t 100% remember but I think one of the ideas for the original movie was a character whose gender changed when they went through the Matrix.

As for mrcl_hrz, the part that confused me was his take on the States. I’m guessing he’s from somewhere in western Europe (with his mention of “the west” and Europe). Maybe the UK? But I don’t know how he’d get on with pro-Trump Americans who are all “hey, we’re super-patriots” even when invading and vandalizing the Capitol building. He’d have to convince them “hey, I mean the Democrats are degenerate, you guys are all right.”

Eh, let them fight among themselves. 🙂

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
1 month ago

“The upcoming 4th movie”???

Angiportus Librarysaver
Angiportus Librarysaver
1 month ago

Okay, here’s what we do. Somebody convince this creep who talks about training women like dogs, and all the rest of his kind, that walking the Broomway at spring tide will reinforce their manhood–extra points for seeking other trails thru the tideflats. Don’t tell them about the UXO. The 2 problems will solve each other! Unless, of course, the quicksand resents the intrusion of such creatures….