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“If you can train dogs, you can absolutely train women,” MGTOW Redditor declares

Dogs don’t want to be trained by MGTOWs either

Over in the MGTOW subreddit, the regulars are again discussing the nature of women, as they are wont to do. Are women innately slutty and evil, or do they just not know any better?

One gentleman called mrcl_hrz comes down on the “they don’t know any better” side of the question, suggesting that women can be taught to overcome their slutty instincts.

“If you can train dogs, you can absolutely train women,” mrcl_hrz writes.

They are human after all, and not less intelligent than men.

I mean, it’s not like women are evil by nature or something. … The problem is that here in the west, women are raised to be degenerate subhumans, while men are becoming more and more servile and are exploited through and through.

In the world of the MGTOWs, this would be considered a moderate position on the “Woman Question.”

This society REWARDS women for undermining civilization. It cheers for “emancipation” (translation: being degenerate cumdumpsters), makes them non-accountable for destroying relationships (especially marriages), then gives them everything men own after a divorce AND they even get to keep and raise the children.

I’m sure MGTOWs would make such good fathers.

The problem is not the biology, but our current society. And most of those bad influences come from america, because all those degenerate subhumans who weren’t welcome in europe fled to america 200 years ago, and now, they brought their degenerate subhuman culture back to us. And in a few days, the degenerate subhumans will put on of them in the most powerful office in the world.

I’m not what you’d call a big fan of Joe Biden, but I had no idea he was a degenerate subhuman. I poked around some more in mrcl_hrz’s posting history and learned that the US is run by “a giant coalition of leftist fools, feminist landwhales and other subhumans.”

If only.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
6 months ago

@epitome

But I don’t know how he’d get on with pro-Trump Americans who are all “hey, we’re super-patriots” even when invading and vandalizing the Capitol building. He’d have to convince them “hey, I mean the Democrats are degenerate, you guys are all right.”

Most fascists probably would overlook what he said about their ancestors as long as he was sufficiently supportive in the present, they don’t know much about history. And he could easily change his story to make it clear he wasn’t referring to their ancestors.

@Surplus
Scheduled for release December 22, 2021. I’m not happy either after seeing the other two Matrix sequels, but it is what it is.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
6 months ago

Unless, of course, the quicksand resents the intrusion of such creatures….

Or Morgawr, of course. The beast’s not been fed for a few years now.

Katherine the Adequate
Katherine the Adequate
6 months ago

Hmm. Slightly OT: When I was a kid, I was afraid California would suffer a huge earthquake, break apart from North America and slide into the ocean. I lived in California at the time.

Dalillama
6 months ago

@Katherine
It was a quite common misconception in the 60s-90s that this was a possible and even probable outcome of a major shift in the San Andreas fault.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
6 months ago

The movie “2012” depicts that.

Needless to say, it’s not going to happen, though some coastal bits might be lost to sea level rise from melting polar ice.

What will happen is that about half of California (from the San Andreas west), along with Baja California, will grind its way north along the west coast of North America and eventually crumple itself up into a new batch of mountains in southern Alaska. That won’t happen overnight — it will take tens of millions of years, with the land in question moving at about the speed that fingernails grow — but it will be shaking and quaking all the way there as it sticks and then jars itself unstuck episodically. So the San Andreas will be making a lot more big quakes, around one a century for the next several million years, along with lots of smaller quakes, and moving north slowly with the rest of it the whole while.

It should be noted that this isn’t the first time something like this has happened, either. Alaska is built out of bits of flotsam that ran into America’s west coast and then slid north along it before piling up near the Arctic. It’s like a geological Sargasso up there, full of mountains, chunks of pushed-up seabed, and a smattering of volcanoes, and of course its own major faults and penchant for quaking, including infrequent but very large megaquakes.

Upshot: enjoy the California climate while it lasts, because it will have a cold and rainy PNW climate in a few million years and a cold, snowy Arctic one after a few more.

And keep prepared in case of earthquakes.

Jonatan Carmi
6 months ago

WIth the “kill all men” and “men are stupid”, “women are superior”, etc. coming from the pussies you can’t fuck for being a pudgy ass, David, that is, Feminists… you all are not in the position to complain about anything on the other side of the fence.

Last edited 6 months ago by Jonatan Carmi
Jonatan Carmi
6 months ago

Feminists saying “kill all men”, “women are superior”, “men are oppresors”, “men are the problem”, “men are stupid” and so on complaining about a comparison between women and dogs…

Naglfar
Naglfar
6 months ago

@Jonatan

WIth the “kill all men” and “men are stupid”, “women are superior”, etc.

Can you find anyone on this site saying any of that? It’s almost like you’re relying on stereotypes of what feminists think without having a clue about reality.

Lainy
Lainy
6 months ago

@naglfar

Lot of annoying trolls that just assume they know everything about feminism these days.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

I can’t see what part of the post Jonatan Carmi’s comments apply to, has anyone had better luck? They are doing that thing where they go “Oh yeah? You too!” without being specific about it, and pretending that some vaguely referenced criticism doesn’t matter.

Naglfar
Naglfar
6 months ago

@Lainy

Lot of annoying trolls that just assume they know everything about feminism these days.

They probably don’t have much to do since Parler went down. Anyway, I think that Acid kid has disappeared, without ever posting his “list” that would supposedly win every argument ever.

@Brony
I don’t think he’s referring to any part of the post, he’s just throwing out arguments and stereotypes.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

@Naglfar
I agree. The responses can be informative but if it’s not helpful in some way I’m happy to consider it.

.45
.45
6 months ago

“Kill all men” “Men are stupid” “Women are superior”

And here we see some beautiful Strawmen in their natural habit…

Jonatan Carmi
6 months ago

NagIfar no, and? I am criticising the one who harasses men criticising Feminists for that and much more.

If you are a Feminist supporter, you’re not in the conditions to talk about reality… the one Feminists twisted upside down a hundred of times. Stereotypes are those such as the privileged man lol.

Jonatan Carmi
6 months ago

Lainy an Anti-Feminist knows more about Feminism than Feminists… that’s for sure, just like the jury knows what to judge of the criminal more than the criminal him/herself 😉

Last edited 6 months ago by Jonatan Carmi
Jonatan Carmi
6 months ago

Oh, and the ones asking for proofs (as if they, Feminists, read every time the others send them the evidence without mocking them), Clementine Ford has been the one with the hashtag of “Kill all men”, and she had THOUSANDS of likes and retweets.

Men are idiots: https://time.com/3631350/men-are-idiots-new-study-says/

And women are superior comes from Feminists claiming that if the world had been run by women (AS IF IT EVER HASN’T!!! lol) it would be much better. And you can find them easily on the grassroots Feminists, and you even find this on the initial Feminists, considered by many mediocre “anti-Feminists” the good Feminists who “are not like the current ones”. E.G. Seneca Falls convention claiming that women are morally superior to men.

Also… the ones doubting about the capacity of my argument is invited to debate LIVE with a camera and voices, face to face… without any other monkey clapping over anything you say seizing upon you’re in groups. Who’s gonna be the brave? Oh… sorry… Feminists are not brave when they are ALONE. 😉

Come and pay a visit to my YouTube Channel if you want to debate it with a videocamera and a mike… are you game or are you scared? lol… Strawman xD

Last edited 6 months ago by Jonatan Carmi
Jonatan Carmi
6 months ago

Naglfar for everyone’s record, and to prove you you haven’t fooled ME with your Feminists blablering, you have a job and go places because, more than a need of yours, it is a need of men, who deserved a world in which they are not your slaves to support a parassite with the title of “lady and wife”.

Not all men have fallen for that psychopathic way of abandoning your privileges by disguising them as “detriments”.

Remember… you have a job and support yourself because that’s what you have to do as MEN need it… not you. It’s a masculine need, not a feminine one, for men don’t have to support parassites. 😉

So keep working… you’re not a child… and soon you’ll also be demanded to work in risky jobs… that we are also even more and more sick of watching MEN’s having to do them. So, embrace. Soon you’ll be watching men pushing you into a pit or putting you on a piece of wood to clean the glass of the skyscrapper 😉

Last edited 6 months ago by Jonatan Carmi
Alan Robertshaw
6 months ago

@ jonaton

Your assertion was that feminists universally say men are idiots. When asked for evidence of that, you cite the following:

Men are idiots: https://time.com/3631350/men-are-idiots-new-study-says/

But I’m not sure that the article is evidence for what you claim. These are the authors of the research cited.

Ben Alexander Daniel Lendrem, student, Dennis William Lendrem, project manager, Institute of Cellular Medicine, Andy Gray, consultant orthopaedic trauma surgeon, John Dudley Isaacs, director, Institute of Cellular Medicine

Now it may be they are all committed feminists; but we have no evidence for that. So in the absence of any proof they are in fact feminists, the article you quote cannot be evidence for your supposition.

Naglfar
Naglfar
6 months ago

@Jonatan

I am criticising the one who harasses men criticising Feminists for that and much more.

I don’t know what you mean? Who is harassing men? All the people you’ve told to fuck off are women.

If you are a Feminist supporter, you’re not in the conditions to talk about reality… the one Feminists twisted upside down a hundred of times. Stereotypes are those such as the privileged man lol.

Nice ad hominem. Also, I’m not a man, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about in the last sentence.

an Anti-Feminist knows more about Feminism than Feminists… that’s for sure, just like the jury knows what to judge of the criminal more than the criminal him/herself

This analogy doesn’t make any sense. A person on trial definitely knows more about what they did than the jury. To say anti feminists know more about feminism is like saying Nazis know more about minorities than the minorities themselves.

Clementine Ford has been the one with the hashtag of “Kill all men”, and she had THOUSANDS of likes and retweets.

I have no idea who that is. Do you think feminists are a hive mind?

Men are idiots: https://time.com/3631350/men-are-idiots-new-study-says/

No one here said that or linked that, so I’m not sure what you think it proves.

And women are superior comes from Feminists claiming that if the world had been run by women (AS IF IT EVER HASN’T!!! lol) it would be much better.

That’s actually not a very feminist sentiment. Most feminists would say that presenting women as flawless is still sexist.

Seneca Falls convention claiming that women are morally superior to men.

Because of course modern feminists are beholden to an event 160 years ago. /s

you have a job and go places because, more than a need of yours, it is a need of men, who deserved a world in which they are not your slaves to support a parassite with the title of “lady and wife”.

Uh, no, I don’t have a job because of men. I have a job because I need to support myself. I’m not married, and I never said men were slaves. You really are digging into that bag of “weird right wing stereotypes,” eh?

Not all men have fallen for that psychopathic way of abandoning your privileges by disguising them as “detriments”.

What?

you have a job and support yourself because that’s what you have to do as MEN need it… not you.

So what you’re saying is, men need women to work because otherwise the labor force would be too empty? That’s true, since women are a substantial chunk of the labor force, but I still do need my paycheck. Those statements can coexist.

It’s a masculine need, not a feminine one, for men don’t have to support parassites.

I’m still not married, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Work is work, regardless of your gender.

and soon you’ll also be demanded to work in risky jobs

You act as though women don’t already work risky jobs. For example right now, in the middle of a pandemic, most nurses are women. I am fortunate not to be in a high risk job, and I acknowledge that. Might I ask, have you ever worked a high risk job?

Soon you’ll be watching men pushing you into a pit or putting you on a piece of wood to clean the glass of the skyscrapper

Is that what you do? I think most people of all genders do not wash skyscraper windows. But points for variety, usually MRAs are obsessed with war and coal mines.

Lainy
Lainy
6 months ago

I mean both my husband and i need to work so we can support our children. I know Jonathan here is probably a highschool student who hasnt even had a girlfriend yet and it mad he had to write an essay for the great Gaspby while missing the point. So he doesn’t know anything about life and his piss baby tantrum is funny

Lainy
Lainy
6 months ago

Our buddy Jon here is used to women telling him that he is an idiot (because he is) so that means feminism call all men an idiot because he’s an idiot

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Goodness, not a single quote. I didn’t see any harassing of men critisizing feminists. Those men have to repeatedly come here in an unwelcome manner.

Lizzie
Lizzie
6 months ago

Is is possible that Jonatan’s comments are being garbled by some kind of translation thingy?

Viscaria
Viscaria
6 months ago

You can always trust an MRA to look at dangerous working conditions in male-dominated fields and think not that safety and working conditions should be improved but that more women need to be killed as sacrifices to the mine god or whatever.

.45
.45
6 months ago

“Soon you’ll be watching men pushing you into a pit or putting you on a piece of wood to clean the glass of the skyscrapper.”

Wait, what? Is this a fetish? I feel like it all comes back to sex with you guys.

Fabe
Fabe
6 months ago

Ehhh If there was a increase of Women in those dangerous jobs He’ll just start complaining about Women stealing Mens jobs.

Naglfar
Naglfar
6 months ago

@Lizzie

Is is possible that Jonatan’s comments are being garbled by some kind of translation thingy?

The link in his name leads to a page in Spanish, so I’d imagine that English isn’t his first language. As a result, I’m focusing on other aspects of his writing to critique rather than grammar and syntax.

@Viscaria

You can always trust an MRA to look at dangerous working conditions in male-dominated fields and think not that safety and working conditions should be improved but that more women need to be killed as sacrifices to the mine god or whatever.

MRAs also seem to think that women haven’t or don’t work in those fields already. And none of the men making this argument seem to be miners or in other dangerous jobs. The majority of men are not coal miners.

And of course that’s beside the fact that the left, which includes feminists, is the side that supports better working conditions for people in dangerous jobs. OTOH, every MRA I’ve met has been a right winger and many/most seem to be ancaps who hate occupational safety regulations.

epitome of incomrepehensibility

@.45

“Kill all men” “Men are stupid” “Women are superior”

And here we see some beautiful Strawmen in their natural habit…

Strawwomen? 🙂

Dalillama
6 months ago

@Naglfar

MRAs also seem to think that women haven’t or don’t work in those fields already. And none of the men making this argument seem to be miners or in other dangerous jobs. The majority of men are not coal miners.

They also have a very skewed view of relative workplace dangers; as a line cook, I actually have a notably higher chance of dying on the job than a window washer does, for instance, and a vastly higher chance of being seriously injured. You’ll never see a window washer whose thumbs are different lengths cos they lost the tip of one at work, frex.
(Don’t worry, it’s all healed up by now and my thumb still works fine. It’s just an example, and plenty of my coworkers have had worse. Which is my point, really)

Lainy
Lainy
6 months ago

I have broke more bones at my job and learning for my job then most men have at their cozy little office jobs and so on. I have disfigured my feet for my job. but no my job is “pretty” and “girly” so it must be super easy.

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
6 months ago

@Lainy: There’s nothing more used-up and ugly than ballerina’s feet, and a more-girly job cannot be found.

@Katherine: One of the Rapture peddlers wrote about that in the 70’s. Split off, fell into the ocean, but remarkably little damage to the neighboring areas. Obviously 1978 Lex Luthor believed it. The movie “San Andreas” was more accurate in that regard, plus starred The People’s Eyebrow. Heck, that 007 movie with Grace Jones was probably more accurate.

Allandrel
Allandrel
6 months ago

My favorite “California falls into the sea” fiction is Deadlands, an alternate history where the Civil War ground to a stalemate because the dead started rising, and in 1869 the Great Quake turned California into a Great Maze of ocean-filled canyons. Prospectors in the Great Maze soon discovered a sort of super-coal that gained the nickname Ghost Rock because when burned it emits a sound like the screams of the damned and clouds of steam that people swaer they can see faces in. (Turns out that’s because it it literally the congealed souls of the damned, part of a plan to jump-start the Apocalypse.)

Lainy
Lainy
6 months ago

@GSS

It’s pain and blood for the sake of art and nothing else. Not a stupid pointless reward that men like to give themselves to try and convince themselves they aren’t worthless at a craft. Like all the awards for artist, writers, directors, all that. They can never make something just for the sake of making it. I have yet to meet a man that would do what I do if it doesn’t mean they get a shiny gold star for it.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
6 months ago

I see I missed another wannabe edgelord, or whatever the proper term would be for someone like Jonatan. Just as well. Work is hammering away at my brain, to the point where I’m wondering why I still work in healthcare. (Answer: It’s what I do. I don’t know what else I could do, and I’d feel like I was abandoning The Team during a pandemic.)

Shane
Shane
6 months ago

Speaking as a Canadian, a beaver can be trained as easily as a man. 😛