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Milo goes on a rant against nurses — yes, nurses — calling them “barren, vicious control freaks” who want power over men

Milo: A shadow of his former self

Apparently Milo — the disagreeable human, not the comforting chocolatey drink — has seen One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest too many times.

Over on Parler — the Twitter clone for people banned from the real Twitter — the once-infamous, now just-sort-of-pathetic Milo is having a little bit of a meltdown over, of all things, nurses, or at least those of the female variety. At a time when nurses are risking their lives to care for COVID patients in the midst of a deadly pandemic, Milo thinks they need to be knocked down a peg or two.

I will leave it to the psychoanalysts to figure out what is really going on with Milo here.

Milo has been in a pretty cranky mood for some time. It seems like every few days I read about him lashing out against some new enemy on Parler. Including some you might have thought were his allies.

He’s not exactly happy about Trump or the Republican party these days:

We should note that it wasn’t his support for Trump that cost him his career; he was abandoned by many of his supporters for suggesting that pedophilia was sometimes a good thing.

Anywhoo, he’s also pretty darn mad at the North (of the US).

Ironically, though, the thing he’s the maddest about is Parler itself. Apparently he misses the good old days on Twitter, when a single rude comment of his directed at a particular person could unleash an entire army of his supporters on them.

Also, he’s now willing to admit that at least some of the people he’s allied himself with over the years are actually a bunch of dunderheads.

Wow. People on Parler are treating him like his fans used to treat people on Twitter. What goes around, comes around, I guess.

H/T — thanks to @parlertakes, @Mikanojo and @PurpleGimp on Twitter, from whom I borrowed the above screenshots.

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Sheila Crosby
3 years ago

I remember hearing, a long time ago (like, maybe 1960s) that a lot of the sexual assault that nurses got from male patients was the patient feeling vulnerable and trying to regain control.
Toxic masculinity and breathtakingly selfish to make life harder for the people saving yours.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
3 years ago

I just want to give a quick, OT thank you to our host and the regulars for keeping this an ableism-free space. I was just on r/IncelTears and a poster just insulted incels by calling them ‘spergs’. And got 50 upvotes for it. And now I don’t want to go back to that sub ever again. It just made me, as an autistic person, feel unwelcome.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 years ago

@LindsayIrene

I was just on r/IncelTears and a poster just insulted incels by calling them ‘spergs’. And got 50 upvotes for it. And now I don’t want to go back to that sub ever again. It just made me, as an autistic person, feel unwelcome.

I don’t use Reddit much, but I will make a point of not visiting that subreddit. I really don’t like how certain segments of the left have started using alt right insults like that one.

.45
.45
3 years ago

@ Lindsayirene

To be fair, some of those people may not recognize that particular insult or grasp its implications. I don’t recognize it myself, and am guessing it refers to Asperger’s?

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
3 years ago

@.45 Yes, it’s a contraction of Aspergers. And the poster knew darn well that’s what it meant.

Dalillama
3 years ago

@.45
I have always held that if one doesn’t know what something means, one ought not drop it into conversation.

.45
.45
3 years ago

*Sigh*

Seems like I can’t keep up with the Alt Right’s constant inventing of insults. On the other hand, sometimes they are unintentionally funny about it. My favorite is “Soy Boy”. It sounds so ridiculous, like it was invented by six year olds on a playground.

“My daddy can beat up your daddy!”
“Nuh-uh. You eat soy sauce and my daddy says soy sauce makes you into a girl! You’re a Soy Boy!!!”

.45
.45
3 years ago

And I think I should clarify that I meant some of the upvoters, not to imply that the poster was completely oblivious as to meaning.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
3 years ago

@LindsayIrene, @Naglfar

Same. Extremely same.

r/JustNeckbeardThings and r/NeckbeardStories have similar stuff going on. Tons of ableism, people posting random public photos of anyone who looks “strange”, even referring to women who behave objectionably as “legbeards” which uh yikes.

I while ago I saw a friend describe how communities formed around mocking weird people on the Internet tend to slide into fascism, and… yeah. In this case maybe see also “My Feminism Will Be Intersectional Or It Will Be Bullshit.”

DrVanNostrand
DrVanNostrand
3 years ago

BURN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO THE FUCKING GROUND

Agreed

The South must rise again

Is he aware that the “New Confederacy” would be about as tolerant of homosexuality as Saudi Arabia?

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
3 years ago

Unsurprisingly, the nurses I hang out with on #MedicalTwitter have noticed Milo. They don’t really have time for his crap.

I thank my ICU nursing team every year on the anniversary of my stroke. I don’t know if I’d be here if they hadn’t put me on oxygen that first night.

Ann Hatzakis
Ann Hatzakis
3 years ago

I know far too many nurses who are loving wives and mothers…..

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

I get irritated by people (on both sides) who use ableist strawmen like “muh…” and “mY oPpOnENt’S aRgUMenT, in mIxED cASe” when they can’t come up with actual rebuttals. It’s not clever or effective.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 years ago

@Cyborgette

r/JustNeckbeardThings and r/NeckbeardStories have similar stuff going on. Tons of ableism, people posting random public photos of anyone who looks “strange”, even referring to women who behave objectionably as “legbeards” which uh yikes.

That’s gross. Posting pictures of anyone who looks “strange” (by normative standards of appearance) seems like in addition to ableism, it could also easily lean into misogyny, transphobia, or racism.

And “legbeards”? Ick. I’ve never liked the phrase “neckbeard” but somehow “legbeard” manages to make it worse by adding misogyny.

I while ago I saw a friend describe how communities formed around mocking weird people on the Internet tend to slide into fascism, and… yeah.

This definitely is the case, though I think it could be also the reverse happening: fascists tend to like mocking people they see as “weird,” so they make these communities and/or use them as recruiting grounds or places to coordinate harassment (see: Kiwi Farms, which was originally created for the purpose of mocking an autistic trans woman, and is now used for mocking all kinds of disabled or LGBTQ+ people).

In this case maybe see also “My Feminism Will Be Intersectional Or It Will Be Bullshit.”

I don’t quite understand. IIRC that was a line from an essay by Flavia Dzodan that was made into a commodified slogan, but maybe I’m missing some context?

Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

One minute ago, I stopped being European. Officially anyway; still am as far as Im concerned. It really does feel like losing a part of me though; all of a sudden I’m not part of the same gang as a load of my friends that I’ve known for decades.

Ah well; at least there’s this I suppose.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/31/tampon-tax-government-axes-vat-on-sanitary-products

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
3 years ago

@Cyborgette

Makes me think of People Of Walmart, which so many people recommended as one of the funniest sites on the ‘net. It was homophobic, transphobic, classist, sexist, ableist… And it still seems to be going strong. They even have a coloring book.

Who?
Who?
3 years ago

First point: Nurses have a very streesful job and I am only talking about the pre-covidtimes.

Second (beeing a bit pedantic to Alan): You may not be part of the EU anymore, but nothing stopps you from beeing European (that geography)

Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ who?

nothing stopps you from beeing European (that geography)

That is true; and maybe we could build that North Sea wall, get Doggerland back, and sneak back into the EU that way. It is strange how much it’s hit me though. We’re in lockdown here, so having a virtual new year. My EU friends and I are all quite sad; I’m just listening to Europop. I’ll have to get my Irish passport sorted in the new year. I’ve still gone though from being qualified in 28 countries back to one; that’s quite a demotion!

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
3 years ago

The Usenet newsgroup alt.usenet.kooks furnishes another example. In 2016, the bulk of the regulars came out as Trump supporters. It and associated groups have been dominated by flamewars between fascists and a smaller number of anti-fascists ever since.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
3 years ago

@Naglfar

I was referring to the essay but it’s been a while and I probably meant it in the commodified slogan sense I guess? But basically the idea that “feminism” that doesn’t account for other forms of oppression is a few short steps from very-not-feminism.

Full Metal Ox
Full Metal Ox
3 years ago

@.45:

Seems like I can’t keep up with the Alt Right’s constant inventing of insults. On the other hand, sometimes they are unintentionally funny about it. My favorite is “Soy Boy”. It sounds so ridiculous, like it was invented by six year olds on a playground.
“My daddy can beat up your daddy!”
“Nuh-uh. You eat soy sauce and my daddy says soy sauce makes you into a girl! You’re a Soy Boy!!!”

A rather likable Soy Boy (as per the brand name of his skateboard) is among the neighborhood characters in this folksy painting by James Gurney, from the July 1987 issue of National Geographic; it illustrates the myriad uses of that humble bean:

http://playingintheworldgame.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/soy-painting.jpg

Invisible ingredient in countless products, the soybean plays an amazingly pervasive role in everyday life. Artist James Gurney included more than 60 soybean-related products in this painting, done in the style of Norman Rockwell. He not only called on neighbors and friends for models, but also portrayed himself and his wife emerging from the store, startled by a skateboarding boy carrying a cone of tofu “ice cream”; the boy’s shorts-like the tablecloth-bear a bean-pod motif.
The bags the couple carry, the store-window and sidewalk displays are replete with items that have a soybean connection
Cardboard, glues, and animal and human foods are commonplace soybean products. The sidewalk customer’s caulking, paint, wallpaper, gasoline, and the muffin he buys all owe a debt to soy-as does the bicycle tire.
The beer sign reflects the use of soy meal in the brewing process. The fire extinguisher uses soy protein in its foam. And pre-1981 National Geographics were printed on soy-lecithin-lubricated presses. The car symbolizes an experimental one built with soybean plastic by Henry Ford. The artist’s final tribute: He used soy-based paint.

Naglfar
Naglfar
3 years ago

@Cyborgette
Ah, that makes more sense. I thought you were saying the essay was an example of that, which confused me.

Last edited 3 years ago by Naglfar
Bina
Bina
3 years ago

Oh dear. SOMEbody’s mad that they’re not giving him free drugs.

Steph
Steph
3 years ago

I had almost forgotten he existed.

What a sad little man he is. So so so desperate for attention!

Kevin
Kevin
3 years ago

Milo seems to have both feet planted firmly in the air. I’ve seen how hard student nurses work, ate did her training after moving here, and I provided a certain amount of academic and (for want of a better word) logistical support and saw just how much effort she had to put in on placements, both on the wards and in the community. A separate issue was older nurses from the pre university training era claiming university training was ‘all theory and no practice.’ Luckily that bit of nonsense seems to have fallen by the wayside.