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Red Piller wonders: “Why do girls pretend to have professional dreams or aspirations?”

Who needs a PhD when you’ve got lipstick?

Imagine how far your head has to be up your own ass to ask a question like this.

Why do girls pretend to have professional dreams or aspirations? (self.asktrp)

submitted 1 month ago by guavaberries3

I think it's because of the manipulation by the elite to make women work for a career etc to be more "empowered" and to further create a divided society. The elite are playing the women again, like they did with the whole cigarettes psyop with making them about empowerment.

If you're a 9+ attractive chick that's not a total fucking bitch, then you should have no problem getting railed around until your mid 20's, then starting an insta/tiktok, showing off your smv, and landing some rich successful guy. The latter part with insta/tiktok/landing a great rmv guy should only take a few days.

What's the point with the whole college/phd/career track? Do they really wanna be hillary clinton? And don't even get me started with the whole hourly worker jobs like working at a fast food restuarant. Youre smv is at peak, your time could be worth the most it's ever going to be, yet you're working at some fast food restaurant for 10-20$ an hour? Just start an instagram or only fans / date a rich guy. Why would you toil hard? You can literally get away without doing anything.

If I was a girl, I would optimize and just work on getting a natural big butt, nice tits, hourglass figure and looking flawless with skincare etc and not drinking/smoking so I can maximize my smv to land the best chad. not that hard when all you have to do is not eat like shit. Fuck school/profession etc. that's just stress when i could just get some simps off onlyfans to support me.

Nothing’s stopping you from starting up your own OnlyFans, dude. Maybe you could find yourself a nice sugar daddy, if that’s what you really want.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
4 months ago

I guess this answered the question no one asked of “what does a guy who doesn’t know the first thing about women think his life would be like as a woman?”

the elite

I think I know what this means.

Do they really wanna be hillary clinton?”

Interesting that they think the only point of getting an education is to be a politician. I’m guessing they are projecting based on their cult-like support of Donald Trump. I’ll also bet Hillary Clinton is the only woman politician they know they name of.

yet you’re working at some fast food restaurant

I think this is more about capitalism than anything else.

If I was a girl

Here we go again.

just work on getting a natural big butt, nice tits, hourglass figure

Since I’m guessing his idea of what women should look like is from models and porn, his idea of these is probably physically impossible without surgery. I also doubt any red piller would have the dedication to do anything to aim for this goal.

so I can maximize my amo to land the best Chad

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It’s interesting you post this today, given how a few days ago the Wall Street Journal ran an extremely misogynistic op-ed about why Dr. Jill Biden shouldn’t call herself “Dr. Biden.” It’s in the same vein.

Last edited 4 months ago by Naglfar
NewtonThePlant
NewtonThePlant
4 months ago

What’s an RMV guy? Do they make you stand in line forever before you can take a driving test?

Last edited 4 months ago by NewtonThePlant
Naglfar
Naglfar
4 months ago

@NewtonThePlant
I’m pretty sure that MV stands for “market value,” not sure about the R. Maybe “rich” or “rank”?

Alan Robertshaw
4 months ago

just work on getting a natural big butt

Surely, if your big butt was natural then, by definition, you wouldn’t need to work to get it?

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 months ago

Strong underpants gnome energy here. Pretty much every step consists of ???.

Also, where are the fast food restaurants that are paying $20 an hour?

Viscaria, purveyor of briny slattern wine
Viscaria, purveyor of briny slattern wine
4 months ago

Why do girls pretend to have professional dreams or aspirations?

If you’re a 9+ attractive chick…

Does this question assume that no “girls” exist that this man would not rate as a 9 or a 10 out if 10? Like, even ignoring that his plan for those women is just pulled right out of his ass and also sex work is work so “why pretend to care about work when you could just do sex work” is incomprehensible.

Edit: (The long edit window is really good for my tendency to just want to go on and on and on, btw)

The answer to the question in my particular case is a) I don’t think this guy would have rated me as a 9 or 10 in my 20s, so I guess I don’t real and b) I don’t want to do sex work even if I was guaranteed to have the results he assumes all women would. It doesn’t seem like a thing that I would enjoy more than the work I already do, even when considering that I would likely make more money. Sometimes some women don’t want to do things that other women do want to do because sometimes women get accidentally rebooted and can’t reestablish our connection with the hive mind.

Last edited 4 months ago by Viscaria, purveyor of briny slattern wine
Lainy
Lainy
4 months ago

Shorter redpill dumb ass : why isn’t the world just as shallow and lazy as i am

Lainy
Lainy
4 months ago

Strangely enough I’ve had men say things like this very similar to me. They tell me I’m to pretty to be a waitress when i work there. I’ve been told I’m to pretty to be going to college. That dude really couldn’t wrap his head around that i want to be aj archeologist. That’s why I’m doing this

It’s not new for these type of asshole men to think that all beautiful women are just stupid and shallow.

Luzbelitx
4 months ago

Wow, so much wrong in such a small space.

Don’t these guys think women are naturally lazy bon bon eaters? Then again, hamsterrationalizing when reality blatantly refuses to match their “theory” is their thing….

Is it a giant projection of his own laziness with a side of envy and not knowing shit about women for dessert? I’m betting yes.

I do find the mention of Hilary Clinton particularly amusing, not sure exactly why. I agree with Naglfar that she’s probably the only woman politician they know by name. Also, maybe because they are implicitly admiting that politics is hard work?

But in the end I’m thinking all boils down to decision making. How dare women not want to be sexual objects and take part in the debate in which the destiny of a nation is decided? Especially since us men have been doing such a wonderful job at it hurr hurr.

Bottom line, he seems desperate to uphold his bullshit “smv” theory while it lies shattered on the floor.

ETA:

If you’re a 9+ attractive chick…

For a moment there I though he was talking about *age*… which made the whole thing even more terrible. Kudos for not being the most disgusting redpiller ever, I guess?

Last edited 4 months ago by Luzbelitx
Luzbelitx
4 months ago

@Viscaria

Would you call having a sugar daddy *sex work*? Isn’t it supposed to be some kind of personal relationship?

Don’t get me wrong, I do think being a sugar babe is a hell lot of work… I just never thought of it as “job”.

Last edited 4 months ago by Luzbelitx
Viscaria, purveyor of briny slattern wine
Viscaria, purveyor of briny slattern wine
4 months ago

@Luzbelitx

Would you call having a sugar daddy *sex work*?

I would in the aggregate, and I would respect how any individual sugar baby referred to themselves and their relationship. In any case, though, he’s talking about starting with an Instagram or an OnlyFans to attract one of these many extremely rich men, which I interpreted as a reference to sex work.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 months ago

@Viscaria

Does this question assume that no “girls” exist that this man would not rate as a 9 or a 10 out if 10?

Women who rate below 9 are probably invisible to him, except for when it’s advantageous for him to complain about them.

@Luzbelitx
I have no experience with sex work so my opinion is of very little value, but I would consider it to be sex work because it involves the presumed provision of sex in exchange for money. I’d be interested to hear the opinion of someone who is or has been a sex worker.

Dalillama
4 months ago

@Luzbelitx
It absolutely is sex work, and one of the more laborious forms of it. People who’ve done both had usually rather be escorts, it’s much better money for a lot less hassle.

Last edited 4 months ago by Dalillama
Luzbelitx
4 months ago

Thanks all for your answers!

I didn’t mean to imply sugar babes (or anyone, for that matter) deserve any less respect. It seems to be a trend for young girls here (and I’m guessing, everywhere). I’ve seen them debate their experiencies in plenty of online feminist groups I participate in.

I just never saw them refer to it as work/a job, but more as (non romantic? But sometimes romantic as well) relationships. From what I’ve seen they don’t usually consider it sex work (which dosant mean it can’t be).

Just to be super clear, I’m not syaing it doesn’t take work, just that I haven’t seen it refered to as a job.

Last edited 4 months ago by Luzbelitx
Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
4 months ago

Imagine how far your head has to be up your own ass to ask a question like this.

Most MGTOWs have their heads so far up their asses that their hairlines are practically touching their spinal cords.

Full Metal Ox
4 months ago

@Lainy:

Strangely enough I’ve had men say things like this very similar to me. They tell me I’m to pretty to be a waitress when i work there. I’ve been told I’m to pretty to be going to college. That dude really couldn’t wrap his head around that i want to be aj archeologist. That’s why I’m doing this.

And yet Hollywood evidently requires female servers, college students, and archaeologists alike to be pretty as a basic qualification to belong to the human race.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
4 months ago

Most of the manosphere is pissed off that some women make $ on Onlyfans, but this guy is pissed if women make money doing something other than sex work? It’s almost like women can’t win with misogynists!

Speaking of, did everyone see how the NY Post (Murdoch trash) decided to post an article outing a NYC EMT for having a side job on Onlyfans to make ends meet? Because apparently it’s vitally important news worth getting some random woman fired because some creepy ass writers decided they think she’s a slut. I mean, I knew the NY was a shit excuse for journalism, but this is a real low. I guess they were jealous of all the attention the Wall Street Journal was getting for telling Jill Biden she shouldn’t refer to herself as Dr. Biden in the most condescending and misogynistic way possible.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
4 months ago

Normally, I’d advise guys to imagine what it’s like being a woman. It’s a useful exercise in empathy. Of course, it does require that you’re marginally in touch with reality or it just turns into an exercise in projection.

Hexum7
Hexum7
4 months ago

It’s clear his only experience with sex workers or sugar babies is having watched one of those grifting “how to be a sugar baby” YouTube videos meant to appeal to adolescent male fantasies and nothing more

He can’t comprehend any “rich market value” man, or with any “mv” of any kind, wanting to be with a woman for any other reason than looks; pathetic on multiple levels- at best it’s demonstrates a particularly specific form of self-sabotage.

Still, I wonder why he doesn’t take his own advice and start a big booty only fans- since it’s sooo easy. Barely an inconvenience

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
4 months ago

I do find the mention of Hilary Clinton particularly amusing, not sure exactly why. I agree with Naglfar that she’s probably the only woman politician they know by name. Also, maybe because they are implicitly admitting that politics is hard work?

I think they probably see Clinton as an archetype of a highly accomplished professional woman, who’s also unlikeable* and relatively unattractive**, and they feel it’s all connected somehow. It fits the common “looks or brains” stereotype for women. Besides, they basically only ever notice or remember an older plain-looking woman if she’s politically important like Clinton. So naturally they assume that being professionally accomplished (as a woman) makes you an ugly beech and/or vice versa.

*That’s what many people are said to feel about her; I wouldn’t personally know enough to judge. Obviously, I do understand the gendered double standard in play here.

**In part due to being older than the average Instagram model, which is in fact related to her being a nationally important politician. Presumably, if you do use your looks to catch a rich man, your future is secured and it doesn’t matter if you eventually grow old – just ask Donald Trump’s wives.

LollyPop
LollyPop
4 months ago

@lumipuna

 It fits the common “looks or brains” stereotype for women.

I think as well that so much of their ideals about female beauty rests on extreme youth and perceived virginity/purity that simply being more worldly/knowledgable makes women less attractive. I mean, Hillary is 73 and in fairly good knick, to them its her personality and career that makes her notably ugly. I imagine the thing the 9+ girl can do to be a “total bitch” is not be a complete pushover.

VeryMerry
VeryMerry
4 months ago

@NewtonThePlant RMV seems to be a tacit admission that the guys a young woman attracts from IG/TT/OF are unlikely to have a SMV to match her own.

For guavaberries3, RMV seems to boil down to money when he is in career counsellor mode. He twice mentions that such women can score a ‘rich guy’.
But if he were they, she would be chasing the guy with the highest SMV while working OF for income.

It seems guavaberries3 would rather live in a society divided by chads and chad-nots than one where women as old as Hilary Clinton make more money than attractive twenty-somethings on Instagram.

Or perhaps he secretly fears his economic rationale will oblige him to become Dianne Feinstein’s toy boy if Richard Blum visits OF.

r/asktrp has already moved on to “Why is the average girl so boring yet entitled? They literally do no self-improvement.” The top answer is “Social Media. Dating Apps. And simps”

blushingoctopus
blushingoctopus
4 months ago

Redpiller: “Women don’t contribute anything to society! They just sit around on Instagram eating bonbons all day!”

Also redpiller: “Why do women insist on contributing to society rather than sitting around on Instagram eating bonbons all day?”

francis
francis
4 months ago

I did do something like this but insta/ only fans wasn’t around back then

as a pretty young woman who studied in a highly competitive field that is very exploitive I fell into a bit of nude modeling and managed to get a group of followers who would buy me food/ drinks/ days out in exchange for my company. In my experience it is very unstable and not the best option.

(I am now 39 working as a cleaner and married to a working class guy and I have never been happier)

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 months ago

@LollyPop

I imagine the thing the 9+ girl can do to be a “total bitch” is not be a complete pushover.

That’s why it’s so laughable that this guy imagines he could snap his fingers and be a 9+ woman (all it takes is not eating junk food!! Who knew?). The second he opened his mouth to lecture everyone on How the World Works, he’d immediately be downgraded to negative/imaginary number territory by all his dudebro pals who really aren’t interested in hearing women speak, and then by all the other men who really aren’t interested in endlessly inane redpill drivel.

I know he doesn’t think personality is important, but he would quickly find out how repellant incel whining is, and how much less seriously the world takes women. He’d have to give up his position of assumed authority as a man. That would really sting, I bet.

@WWTH

Speaking of, did everyone see how the NY Post (Murdoch trash) decided to post an article outing a NYC EMT for having a side job on Onlyfans to make ends meet? 

But when firefighters do a beefcake calendar as a fundraiser, they’re praised for being creative.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
4 months ago

About the NY Post article, one of my main questions/concerns about it is how the writer of that article figured it out to begin with. A quick perusal of the OnlyFans faq seems to indicate that the only personal location info given out is what country/state a model lives in. I don’t have an account there, and right now have no reason to get one as either a creator or fan, so I don’t know how they lay their pages out around that info.

So how did this writer learn that an EMT was also an OnlyFans model? Did he happen to see her working her day job, and realize he’d (I’m ASSuming a ‘he’ here) seen her OF page before, and though ‘story idea!’ ? Did she ‘diss’ him in the performance of her EMT duties and this was his way of getting back at her for being ‘rude’ when speaking to him? Do a location search on one of her pics to see if he could find and meet the model as ‘her biggest fan’? Hell, did this gal even agree to do this story to begin with, let alone with this slant?

So many questions, with few, if any, good answers.

Last edited 4 months ago by Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
4 months ago

Testing…

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
4 months ago

I fell into a bit of nude modeling and managed to get a group of followers who would buy me food/ drinks/ days out in exchange for my company.

You got food? I got a couple pints and the sitting fee. 😛

It were … an interesting experience. Kinda odd knowing there’s dusty, never looked at portfolios out there with drawings and painting of my younger self.

Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
4 months ago

@Naglfar

It’s interesting you post this today, given how a few days ago the Wall Street Journal ran an extremely misogynistic op-ed about why Dr. Jill Biden shouldn’t call herself “Dr. Biden.”

I was like, wait what? Didn’t she get the degree? What could be the possible reason? So I looked up the article (or reporting, because paywall).

“Madame First Lady—Mrs. Biden—Jill—kiddo: a bit of advice on what may seem like a small but I think is a not unimportant matter.”

Ooooooo boy. Anyway, his main point is, PhD =/= MD. I have news for him. I know many MDs, some of whom have PhDs, and kind of unfortunately for his point, THEY say the PhD is a harder degree. What’s his problem again? (Yes, I know what it is. He wants a first lady that considers Lady her highest earned title and doesn’t seem more educated than the president. You can’t help some people.)

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
4 months ago

His claim about “you can’t call yourself a doctor unless you’ve delivered a baby” amused me.

I’ve delivered two. Can I skip the schooling and go ahead and use the title? Somehow think he’d be a touch upset if I did.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 months ago

@Threp
Ben Shapiro thinks you shouldn’t call yourself a doctor unless you can save someone having a stroke at a dinner party. AFAIK even most MDs couldn’t do much in that case because they probably wouldn’t have any medication or equipment at the party.

Inconstant Reader
Inconstant Reader
4 months ago

The WSJ’s opinion editor has responded, and it’s even worse than the original piece:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/business/media/dr-jill-biden-wall-street-journal.html?referringSource=articleShare

Someone on Twitter posted this poem, and I thought it was perfect. (Hmm, how do you post an image? Nvm, it’s short.)

“My First Name,” by Susan Harlan

No, you can’t call me
By my first name,
And yes,
I know that
A male professor
Told you that titles
Are silly
Because a certain genre
Of man
Is always dying
To performatively
Divest himself
Of his easily won
Authority.

Last edited 4 months ago by Inconstant Reader
Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
4 months ago

@ Naglfar:
C’mon, even Dr. Heimlich only got to personally save someone with the Heimlich manoeuvre once.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
4 months ago

@Moon Custafer

Be fair, it is dim wee Ben, who believes his wife’s reassurances that women only get wet when they’re ill. Medical knowledge – or indeed human knowledge – is a bit much to ask of him.

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 months ago

@Inconstant Reader
That article is…something. One could definitely play some sort of bingo game or drinking game with how often the editor leans on tires tropes.

It may also be worth noting that the author of the original piece previously published another piece declaring that gay people are subhuman and suggesting that society should relegate them to “n****rdom,” so this isn’t his first brush with bigotry in the press. It also just occurred to me that his last name is Epstein. Is he related to Jeffrey Epstein?

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
4 months ago

@Naglfar

Is he related to Jeffrey Epstein?

Not as far as anyone on fark has been able to find out – and they’re pretty good at ferreting.

Crip Dyke
4 months ago

So how did this writer learn that an EMT was also an OnlyFans model? Did he happen to see her working her day job, and realize he’d (I’m ASSuming a ‘he’ here) seen her OF page before, and though ‘story idea!’ ? Did she ‘diss’ him in the performance of her EMT duties and this was his way of getting back at her for being ‘rude’ when speaking to him? 

My guess is that it’s someone else who fed it to the reporter as the “revenge journalism” counterpart to “revenge porn”. Seriously, just in terms of odds, even if revenge isn’t a motive, it’s much more likely that someone knows the EMT and then went looking for a reporter (since any person has a lot of acquaintances) and just happened to find this douchegabber, than that the reporter himself noticed the connection between the EMT and the OnlyFans account.



Alan Robertshaw
4 months ago

@ crip dyke

it’s much more likely that someone knows the EMT and then went looking for a reporter

Almost certainly. Very few journalists actually investigate their own stories. That’s why “investigative journalist” is a specific thing. Nearly all stories either come from tip-offs; or just re-writing bulletins from Reuters or AP.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sell-your-story-sun/

https://www.theguardian.com/community/2015/sep/02/guardianwitness-send-us-a-story

Etc.

Luzbelitx
4 months ago

Nearly all stories either come from tip-offs; or just re-writing bulletins from Reuters or AP.

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Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meani
4 months ago

@Crip Dyke, Alan,

You’re right, I should have thought of the ‘revenge porn’ angle myself. :/ Though I do think that the Post has left itself open for a lawsuit, given that ‘local EMT moonlights as OF content provider’ isn’t exactly news that the public needs to know, ya know?

Dana C.
Dana C.
4 months ago

I know this is hard for assholes like this to understand, but while I was never a Stacy, I was a solid Becky. I worked as a legit, non-sexual massage therapist with a clientele made up mostly of wealthy people, especially lawyers. At the same time, I was sleeping around for the fun of it. The idea of sex for material gain didn’t appeal to me. The idea of choosing my sexual partners by their net worth did not appeal to me. The idea of waking up and thinking, “Oh, damn, Monday. Sex *again*?” did not appeal to me.

Even less appealing was the idea of marrying for money. I would sooner have been a sex worker. The notion of sharing a house and a bed with someone for whom I had little feeling or affinity seemed much the most difficult way to make a living. I’d rather take my money on the night stand and have my space to myself in my off-hours, thanks.

What I did instead was marry a guy with whom I fell madly in love and who made, and makes, solid middle class bucks, while I kept doing massage and also became a successful writer. We’ve been together for 31 years, married for going on 26, and I still love him like crazy.

Dana C.
Dana C.
4 months ago

Re the question of whether being a sugar baby is sex work, if you’re having sex with the expectation of money in return, that’s sex work. And FTR, I consider marrying for money sex work, too.

Dana C.
Dana C.
4 months ago

“Speaking of, did everyone see how the NY Post (Murdoch trash) decided to post an article outing a NYC EMT for having a side job on Onlyfans to make ends meet? Because apparently it’s vitally important news worth getting some random woman fired because some creepy ass writers decided they think she’s a slut. I mean, I knew the NY was a shit excuse for journalism, but this is a real low.”

The thing I find shocking and immoral about this is that NYC EMTs make so little money that this woman needed *any* kind of side job.

vaiyt
vaiyt
3 months ago

Why do these other beings I insist aren’t people keep acting just like they’re people in all the ways that matter? Truly a mystery for the ages.

DondarfSnowbonk
DondarfSnowbonk
3 months ago

What really gets me is that he never quite gets to the point of “hm, maybe if everybody’s not doing this incredibly obvious thing it doesn’t work.”