Found this one in the MGTOWChristian subreddit, under the title “I hate the false religion of woman worship.”
You gotta give him points for his very vivid imagination!
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In off topic news, apparently 2020 has aliens now (allegedly)
https://www.jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-aliens-exist-humanity-not-ready-651405
@Dormousing_it
I’m sorry to hear that. I hope this will cheer you up.
@Big Titty Demon : your comment on sacrifice is one of the thing that irk me with vegetarian : how a lot of them don’t understand that I care more about trees than most animals, and about as much about potatoes and carrots than poultry. It’s not like your full vegetarian meals seem any less of a sacrifice to me.
That’s probably linked to the fact that few people realize that plants feel their environments and are just as living. It’s much, much easier to anthropomorphize animals than plants.
Unrelated to either the comments or the post, but very relevant to the blog :
https://www.prettyscale.com/
That’s pretty much a computer using incels beauty standard to rate photos.
@Full Metal Ox
I suppose it would. It was the church of Our Lady of the Snows, so I suppose you could argue, the Snow Queen.
I’m going to have another try at embedding
@Tovius
I knew this year would end with something weird, so I guess this shouldn’t surprise me. That said, I think the man in the article is making this up, because we all know that if there was a Galactic Federation Trump would spill the beans instantly on Twitter regardless of what the aliens said. 98 shekels is about US$30, so I’m somewhat tempted to buy his book just to see what other weird stuff is in it (though the shipping might be more expensive).
@Big Titty Demon: I COULD give up meat. You’re quite correct. I’ve been flirting with it for some time now. I’ve been experimenting with meatless dishes, trying to keep my meat servings down.
I’m going to put a trigger warning here, for an animal’s traumatic death.
My old boss, Bill, was an avid hunter. Keep that in mind… He was driving, when he saw a deer get hit by a car. He immediately pulled over. Another car pulled up next to his. They both had the same idea – finish the deer off, for the meat. They had their knives at the ready. I understand you’re supposed to slit the animal’s throat, and drain its blood?
When Bill told me this story, I was shocked, but I don’t know why he would lie about something like this. It blows my mind that they had the tools at the ready to butcher a large animal.
Anyway, I decided I was in no position to be critical. I’m a meat eater, and farming animals for their meat is much crueler than hunting for sport, IMO.
@ ohlmann
You raise an interesting point.
However plant based diets ironically also save plants (and trees). Meat production overall is between 3 and 12% efficient. That is to say, it takes 100 kCals of plants to produce 3 kCals of beef or 12 kCals of chicken.
As a result, only about half of the crop production on earth is actually eaten by humans (in the US it’s only 27%)
https://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053187/cropland-map-food-fuel-animal-feed
And as for trees, meat production is the major driver of deforestation. The land is either used to graze cattle directly, or produce animal fodder. It’s not just indigenous people people being exterminated in the Amazon; the trees are going too.
@Tovius: Thanks. My loose tooth doesn’t hurt, until I try to use it for what it’s designed to do.
@ dormousing_it
Sorry to hear about your dental woes. Have some pictures of your namesakes living the dream.
@Alan Robertshaw: Aaaaawww, thanks! I’ve only ever seen videos & pics of dormice, since they’re not native to North America. I hear their environment is under threat in the UK. How about a trade – raccoons for dormice? If only that was possible.
As discussed, farming animals for their meat takes a big toll on the environment. A diet heavy in meat supposedly isn’t good for your health, either. That should be all the encouragement necessary for me to drop meat. I guess old habits die hard. I enjoy just about ALL food. I don’t know if that’s a blessing, or a curse.
@ dormousing_it
There is a theory that the Romans introduced dormice to Britain. Honeyed dormouse was a popular snack with them.
Like so many animals though, they are under threat as we intrude on their natural environment. There was an interesting experiment a while back though. They tagged 50 dormice to see how they were affected by farming. Only one ended up in a combine harvester. About half of them seemed to be victims of natural predation. Although there is an issue as to whether farming destroys the cover they normally hide in.
I’d love raccoons here. However they banned their import a few years back. Must be a Brexit thing.
I did track some down locally though. They have a family at our local Screech Owl Sanctuary. I did point out that the name made it less than obvious they would have racoons.
According to Wikipedia, the one native species of dormouse found in Britain is this:
Hazel dormouse – Wikipedia
This one is introduced in a small area in Britain (I guess most animals are technically edible, but this species was clearly named to spite Alan):
Edible dormouse – Wikipedia
This one, not found in Britain, has a nice raccoon style eye mask:
Garden dormouse – Wikipedia
(Despite the map, garden dormouse is actually recently extinct in Finland, aside from maybe one or two spots in the area that was ceded to Russia during WWII)
In Finnish, these species have names that translate as “hazel mouse”, “oak mouse” etc., but the edible dormouse, and by extension the whole dormouse family, is called unikeko, literally “heap of sleep”.
@Lumipuna,
I’m a heap of sleep, I might have to change my name to unikeko. I’m attempting to learn Finnish, so that I can visit my friend in Northern Finland and at least manage to be polite.
If I was a dormouse I would be seriously annoyed with taxonomists.
Dormousing : in all honesty, most westerner eat *way* too much meat. I have litteraly divided it by three without problem, and as a french I already eated a lot less than an american.
Not really a vegan vs meat eater thing however in my opinion. You don’t even need to change your recipe all that much, most work just as well with a smaller portion anyhow.
And if the environmental cost of meat bother you, be sure of also checking from where the thing you eat come. I say that because the other thing I cutted a ton from my diet is pineapple and bananas, which often come by airplane to France, and so have an absolutely comical ecological load to them (according to simulation, ten time more than beef just because I eat french beef but there isn’t a ton of french pineapple). Of course, it depend on your region.
Dormousing it and North Sea Sparkly Dragon,
(More info gleaned from Finnish Wikipedia)
Unikeko was historically coined as a Finnish term for the “sleepers” in the Christian myth of Seven Sleepers. The association between these and dormice probably originated later when Finnish scholars began inventing names for foreign animals.
Seven Sleepers’ Day – Wikipedia
In modern Finnish, unikeko also means “sleepyhead”, as an affectionately mocking term. The abovementioned Christian memorial day of Seven Sleepers is somewhat well known in Finland due to one local tradition in the southwestern town of Naantali:
National Sleepy Head Day – Wikipedia
Slightly more detailed version in Finnish, with pictures:
Unikeonpäivä (Naantali) – Wikipedia
@Dormousing_it
I’ve never butchered anything, but it is strange to me how many people don’t carry a knife. How do you cut things?
I generally carry two knives on my person (both are of legal size for my area), and in my car there are three knives, and for that matter a hatchet present. (Larger knife not legal to carry on person and a multitool in bug out bag type thing in trunk, and one of those emergency knives with the seatbelt cutter and glass breaker in the center console.)
So yeah, I am in a position to deliver a mercy killing to a severely injured animal on the side of the road, though I would feel bad about doing it.
@Ohlmann
I don’t want to sound or imply that I am morally superior or anything like that, but I have noticed that people do eat a lot of meat. I’ve been a vegetarian for most of my life, but even before that I didn’t eat meat often, it was a once a week to once a month type of thing. Then I heard other people talk about “meatless Monday” and was surprised that people eat meat every day.
@.45
In my case, I don’t carry a knife because I don’t really need to cut things much when I’m out and about. Maybe it’s a locational thing, but I just don’t often find myself in situations where it would be useful. As for self defense, I find that it’s easier to carry pepper spray or similar.
@ ohlmann
You’re quite right to consider transportation when it comes to food.
However transportation is relatively minor factor when it comes to the environmental impact of food. Most of the impact comes from the production methods, not the delivery.
Bringing 1 kCal of plants half way round the world has far less of an environmental impact than bringing 1 kCal of beef two miles up the road.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13741-food-miles-dont-feed-climate-change-meat-does/
But you’re very correct that there are other factors. For example a lot of processed foods, even vegan ones, contain palm oil; and that can be a nightmare for orang-utans.
@Naglfar
A dinky little pocket knife as I carry would be useless for self defense. For one thing I’d never get it out of my pocket in time.
As for cutting things open or whatever, I find nothing causes such a need like not having a knife handy. It always seems like the instant I have to go without for entering an area like a theme park or airport, I am suddenly confronted with some kind of packaging that takes five minutes of struggle to open with bare hands, but could be sliced open in a flash with a knife.
At work, where opening boxes and things is practically our way of life, I am often asked to cut things or “Can I borrow your cutty-thing?”
Naturally we are only to use approved box cutters that in a Catch 22 are usually not made in sufficient quantities to supply all the stores. I’m not kidding when I say we usually finally receive a couple right about the time corporate decides that particular kind is unacceptable for some reason, tells us we can no longer use them and have to order the next new type that we won’t receive for two years.
It goes without saying that despite efforts by district staff to come in and say we HAVE to use something that literally isn’t available, most of us use whatever we want in complete violation of policy. The women tend to grab whatever vaguely sharp metal object is handy, the men usually have knives that the rules forbid them to have in the workplace. The joys of working for a corporation…
…Once again I am left scratching my head as to why so many misogynists are kinda low-rent Time Cube-style wordsmiths. Oh well.
Also, I should eat less meat but I’m a forgetful asshole.
@Naglfar- (OOT) In an earlier comment you mentioned that ancaps tended to naturally transition to monarchists; how is that? I have a hard time wrapping my head around what process makes someone who thinks a 100% deregulated market economy with virtually zero government is a good thing would so easily switch to thinking a socioeconomic system that is highly stratified and geared mostly at funneling wealth to the top elite (i.e. most definitely not working under free market rule). What am I missing? Is it just that they seek to use the problems caused by the former ideology to transition to the latter, with them on top, of course (making their support of the first extremely hypocritical as it’s to be discarded when opportune)?
@Paireon
This is something I thought about when Skimmingway visited and expressed his love for both. What happens is, in fully unregulated capitalism, one individual or group can often buy up everything else or build a private army and conquer everything else. This results in a monarchy, and appears to be the inevitable conclusion of anarcho-capitalism since there’s no regulations to prevent it. Most people who support these ideologies seem to think they’d be the CEO/king, when really it’s far more likely they’d be a serf or slave.
Yes, the ancaps really want one law : the law of the strongest. It mean authoritarism make sense for them.
There’s also that it’s an ideology for affluent white men, the kind of guy who are accustomated to have all the privileges all the time. It’s probably more honest to actually want monarchy for them.
@Alan : “vegetable produce less CO2” is more a rule of thumb than an hard rule, as is “transportation isn’t important”.
For the vegetable footprint, the thing is that humans eat more vegetables than meat for the same satiations, and the cost of both vary widly. If you compare beef to grain, it’s overwhelmingly in favor of grain (if only because the cow eat grain !). If you compare poultry to chocolate, it’s the reverse. (chocolate being, AFAIK, by far and away the worst culture in ecological term, just like how beef is more than three time worse than poultry)
For transportation, slow, cheap transportation is also pretty CO2 efficient. Like boats for grain is very low ecological cost. Some food are refrigerated or flown by plane (I took the example of pineapple in France), and that’s so ridiculously less efficient that it suddenly become a concern. If something have a short lifespan like most fruit, there’s a much bigger odds you need to double check how it’s transported and stored.
(also, while I am not aware of farm animal eating palm-related stuff, beef in particular is very often fed soy, for the worst of both world with a particulary costly animal fed with particulary costly food)
@Ohlmann
I’m sorry you are irked, but I can find no scientific articles backing that plants have a brain-analogue or anything more than the autonomous awareness of their surroundings that a robot equipped with sensors has. I therefore disagree that carrots are equal to chickens (and wager that empirically most people do, as I have never seen a pet carrot) and would point you towards Alan Robertshaw’s excellently sourced argument as to why, even if you turn out to be correct, a slice of meat represents the massacre of hundreds of thousands of plants by this reasoning.
@Dormousing_it
I did not mean to suggest that you specifically should give up meat: I meant that mock meats are more for the benefit of those who eat meat than vegetarians, because it is difficult to go off meat “cold turkey”.
I recognize your position on hunting vs. farming, but I have a slightly different opinion based on my experience. TRIGGER WARNING FOR GRUESOME STORY: I had a neighbor when I lived in Texas that was a big hunter. I respected this person because he did take care to hunt his own food, shoot it cleanly, eat all the parts including the squiffy ones, etc. It seemed less wasteful and more respectful to eat meat this way than factory farming. I then lost this respect when he and his wife proposed I should go hunting with them (not sure why, always been a vegetarian), and that I could start by shooting something “small” that “didn’t matter”, such as an armadillo. It would be so much fun for me, because armadillos, when you shoot them in the head, die instantly and spasm, jumping 4-6 feet in the air. It’s a hilarious thing to watch, just so funny. It’s a contest to see who can get the highest spasm, my neighbor got a jumper that was almost 7 feet once! Taller than him! Hahaha! I’ll really enjoy it and then I can go hunting with them.
Whereas my experience with farmers is mostly (well, all) with small farmers that raise their animals on large tracts of land not unkindly, and do not gratuitously kill small animals–or at all. Yes they are sold on to be killed, but there’s not such a glee in animal death.
Perhaps that changes with the bigger farmers or the people who actually kill the animals, I don’t know. But that is my personal experience of hunting vs farming. I just go with “it’s better if we can not do both.”
@Alan Robertshaw
Those are some tremendously cute pics of dormice. I’m getting strong Redwall dibbun vibes.
@Lumipuna
This is the most awesome fact I’ve learned in a while. <3