There’s really nothing too stupid to get upvotes on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit. Consider this weird little paean to the glory of properly submissive Central American and Southeast Asian farm girls.
Yeah, good luck with that, dude. You’re living in a fantasy land.
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@Surplus to Requirements
You don’t have a contract with the universe. I don’t either.
Accepting that Not everything is within one’s Control comes easier to some people than Others, and No one Likes to Talk about it because there is a Bad Moral Thing attached to WANTING everything to be about oneself and the two are uncomfortably Close.
You’re Welcome.
I thought they were going their own way? Isn’t that what MGTOW means?
@Moggie
Same here. I just don’t feel motivated to do anything lately, even though I really ought to do something. I was doing fine until the first week of November, but since then some combination of pandemic stress and seasonal depression has made me unable to focus on any long term project.
The PiDP-11 kit seems interesting, I recall hearing about that one a while ago.
Oh what a refreshing new take. Yes, let’s take Central American seriously economically disadvantaged women this time for mail order brides and exploit their condition for sexual pleasure and child-rearing.
As opposed to Eastern European ones, or Asian ones (Asia being a huge place of course).
Completely new original thinking.
I’ve seen more than one relationship between a foreign woman from a traditional society and an American man. These are relationships which can work and work well, but my impression is that the (American) men who go for them sometimes get into them with expectations which go unmet. The reason is that if the American man is looking for a woman from a traditional society, and who is herself traditional, then he certainly find one, that’s not the problem — but, there is a hitch. And the hitch is that the traditions the woman’s going to be intent on following won’t be American traditions. They aren’t going to be his traditions. She’s not going to ensconce him comfortably in the (imagined) life of an American male circa 1956. She’s not interested in living according to the dicta laid out in Ozzie and Harriet. Ozzie and Harriet isn’t about her society and never was, and it’s the rules of her society, not his, that she’s going to want to perpetuate.
In other words, pretty much what epronovost said. I believe the outgoing President could write a book on this subject, if he were an honester man than he is and if writing books were his thing.
Hmm. When I lived in California, I knew some ladies of Central American peasant stock and I can’t picture any of them putting up with a miggie’s bullshit. Also, I lived a couple hours’ drive away the Cascades. I don’t think those volcanoes have been active lately, though.
@bekabot
Yes, and “imagined” is the operative word here. My father was a MGTOW back in the 1950s (and for many years before and after that). He was never, ever happy with his life. His wife and children — if he could be believed — made sure that he was frustrated and miserable.
@Threp:
Your roof needs a firmware update?
I think you might be taking the “smart home” thing a wee bit too far. 🙂
@Klaaraa:
What?
Re Peterson, did he end up addicted and in an induced coma because he followed his own self-help advice or because he didn’t? Either way it makes any new rules look pretty worthless.
@Simon
My understanding is that he began taking benzodiazepines after his wife’s cancer diagnosis, but instead of pursuing a rehabilitation program in the US he decided to go to Russia for a non-standard coma treatment then got COVID. I would never make fun of someone for struggling with addiction, but I find it hypocritical at best given that one of his rules is “set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world.”
TL;DR is I can’t tell if that’s because he followed his advice or didn’t, but he is predictably hypocritical about said advice.
I’ve been married to a raised-poor South-east Asian woman for thirty years- friends who are in similar situations laugh at Western men coming to marry one of those docile submissive women.They’re usually in for a big surprise.
@Surplus
The Internet of Things is old and busted.
The Internet of Ceilings is the new hot. 🙂
(I spent far too long trying to come up with a roof/computing pun before admitting defeat)
Welp. reading this made me puke in my mouth a bit. I also find it frankly insulting towards almost every woman I know (I know a few womanchildren personally, but I also know manchildren personally and in roughly the same proportion so AFAIK the ratios are about the same), to say nothing of most women from those rural regions, who I’d wager have had to grow up and learn to adult rather more quickly than any of the choads hanging on miggy forums.
Also, kudos them for once again holding hast to the hypocrisy inherent in their self-given name, as again it’s less about them “going their own way” and more going back and pining for an idealized state of supremacy (also hypocritical their wanting women who embody one of their biggest gripes if said woman “knows her place”; protip: an infantile person whose main “positive” trait is submissiveness isn’t going to be able to contribute much to your common domestic life, guys* – not that there’s that many people of either sex quite that infantile…)
*Caveat for those who have a fetish for such a thing – which I doubt miggies actually have despite their fetishizing; pretty sure if they were with their purported “ideal mate” they’d get tired of the situation right quick and go back to complaining on the intarwebs.
Also: Fuck Minassian and fuck his asshole lawyer. I’ve got a better sense of right and wrong than most neurotypical people dammit so he can shove that defense up to his tonsils.
Also also: Fuck Jordan Peterson and fuck Random Penguin Canada.
@galanx
Yeah, my father remarried a poor Asian woman. She is quiet and submissive in conversation (not so much her friends from the same country, so that’s probably just her), but if she didn’t want to hear it or spend any time trying to understand a new concept, it is in one ear and out the other.
This is especially funny whenever my detailed orientated father tries to tell her how best to do things.
Him: Here, use this tool, twist it, snap it off, quick and easy.”
Her: “Yup, uh-huh, got it.” *Proceeds to do it the hardest way possible exactly as before*
Also, I find it hilarious how she and her friends handle cutting up meat. Nobody in my family is particularly serious about carefully carving up a roast or anything like that, but by comparison… well, their ways are best described as “hack away randomly with a cleaver like it is still alive and you’re losing the fight.”
LMAOed the first time I saw them do that to a roasted pig on a wooden slab my father had made for a platter. Good thing he hadn’t put much time into that poor thing. Looked like it had been attacked with an axe afterward.
Agreed with epronovost, here in Southamerica the rural women are more or less submissive to their husbands, but they want a hardworking husband that bring money to home, wakes at 5 am all days, do the rude tasks in the crop/cattle ranch and attend all farm needs, the wifebeaters and drunks are luckily more shunned now than before, and specially in the Coast region, if a man is a slacker/manchild, could be kicked out by the woman and some relatives with machetes. If they want a rural woman submissive like the article, they would be ready to learn Kichwa or Shuar, travel to remote places in the Andes or into the Amazon jungle,have the luck to be accepted by the community, and leave all or almost all comodities of the modern world for life
I´m from Ecuador, but the same could be applied to all the Latino countries in some degree
@Surplus:
“What must I do so that the results always exactly match my actual performance, skill-and-effort-wise, or (in contexts involving randomness) average out to the same, and not a whit less?”
Accept that as a meat computer, you are not as precise as you think you are, and recheck everything. I spent my career in manufacturing engineering, and there is no task so simple that humans cannot screw it up on the 53rd try after 52 successes. This includes me, and you, and all of us.
I hate it when dudes talk like this. None of these words mean academically what they think they mean. They don’t know science and can’t just conjure up these percentages out of nowhere. “Reasonable exchange” – I couldn’t for the life of me figure out what that meant (I also thought “capped out at child capacity” must mean that they don’t want any more kids, because that is the reasonable assumption to make about what those words in that order mean). Complete fuckwits.
Fucking hell. I hope the prosecution calls an expert witness to put a stop to that bullshit. Also I don’t ‘have autism’; I am Autistic.
Imagine that—women who are willing to be obedient and faithful in return for being provided for actually expect you to provide for them. MGTOWs clearly expect to get the obedience and faithfulness without being willing to hold up their end of the bargain.
@Citerior Motive
Exactly. It’s a neurotype, not a disease. I have kidney disease, I am autistic.
@Allandrel, Citerior Motive
AFAIK the whole “people first language” thing was mostly promoted by Autism Speaks to dehumanize us and try to present autism as separable from who we are. They promoted it heavily to neurotypical parents of autistic people, but virtually ever survey shows autistic people hate it (much like how we hate the organization itself).
@Naglfar
Of course they did. That’s just like them. It fits in with their “autism stole the normal child that you deserve” narrative.