When Harry Styles agreed to model a series of dresses and skirts for a Vogue cover shoot, he knew it would stir up controversy. He probably didn’t think he was going to be blamed for undermining civilization itself. But that’s what some right-wing opinion-havers would have you believe.
“Blexit” leader Candace Owens started the brouhaha with this melodramatic tweet:
She followed up with a swipe at feminism:
It wasn’t long until fast-talking dunderhead Ben Shapiro decided to chime in.
But Ben wasn’t content to simply share a couple of tweets on the issue, and so he took it to his podcast today, delivering a nearly half-hour rant on the subject, interrupted only by Shapiro reading out ads for luxury bedsheets and his publication the Daily Wire.
He began by not-so-subtly suggesting that men wearing dresses might deserve a punch in the mouth, and followed with a rambling, repetitive rant taking on what he, likes Owens, sees as a dire threat to western civilization: men in “floofy” frocks.
This excerpt will give you some of the flavor of the thing:
But Shapiro wasn’t just annoyed; he presented himself as a noble guardian of civilization fighting off the cross-dressing barbarians.
“This stuff matters,” he declared.
It matters. Because these are fundamental ideas for the preservation of civilization. Boys and girls are different. Boys and girls are different. And it’s important to inculcate in your children that boys and girls are different. And any parents who fail to inculcate in a boy that manliness is a good thing, and that responsible manliness helped build civilizations … any parent that does not teach their girls that femininity, meaning the protection of hearth and home in a different way than masculinity, is a good thing. Any parent that doesn’t teach their girls that is not doing their kid any favors. They’re undermining the civilizational compact that men and women [have], based on biology and in every human culture.
Dude, it’s just a man in a dress. Cis male musicians have been donning dresses for decades — from David Bowie to Kurt Cobain — and somehow civilization hasn’t come tumbling down.
But Shapiro thinks this is a Very Important Topic.
We shouldn’t be shy about discussing these issuesl the left certainly isn’t shy about discussing these issues. They’ll put these [ideas] in public schools, they’ll tell your kindergartener that real men wear dresses. And then you’ll be explaining to a five year old that real men don’t wear dresses. And I don’t feel that’s an acceptable ramification of our cultural discussion.
I really don’t think there’s much discussion of cross-dressing in kindergarten.
Shapiro throws in a weird racial aside:
Harry Styles is a free man, living in a western country, in a west by the way that is defended by white masculine men, as a general rule.
Shapiro insists he has nothing against Harry Styles. It’s just that when Styles puts on a dress he is TEARING APART THE VERY FABRIC OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION
I’m not saying don’t pick up his CDs; I’m not saying don’t listen to his music; I’m not saying don’t watch the movies he’s in. All I’m saying is that when you put out an argument that men ought to act like women and that this is a good thing you’re doing something that tears at the fabric of not only civilization but family and the fabric of childrearing and everybody with half a brain knows this.
Again, Ben, it’s just a man in a dress, a playful tweak of conventional notions of masculinity. How fragile is masculinity — how fragile is civilization itself — if it can be brought to its knees by a handful of pictures of a man in a dress?
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@Lainy
Oh, for the love of god, give it a fucking rest already. Nobody wants to hear about your lavatory murder mystery.
What are these lofty goals that school is preventing men from achieving? How can men build or invent anything worthwhile without the ability to read, write, or do math and science? Even people who live off the land have to have a rudimentary education.
@dumbass
Irs the same muscles when you piss that they tell you to use when you give birth. A lot og women shit and piss while giving birth. You likely came into the world covered on discharge. Goo, blood and your mother shit and piss. How does that make you feel?
@naglfar
Made me sad. His mom actually cried because apparently he’s been getting more withdrawn and disrespectful and hateful. Also I didn’t know the brat made a post
@PoM
I’m surprised that you actually think that you’re somehow elevating yourself by repeating that gynocratic lie of yours, when really, if you weren’t so blinded by your own delusions, you’d see just how thoroughly outclassed you are by me.
Money is an invention o gynocracy. Whoever had the most of it, got most of women’s attention. Because of this, there was a demand for it, which resulted in men becoming engaged in back-breaking, thankless labors in order to acquire more of it. Women would ensnare whichever man had the most of it, and then spend it on herself, thus necessitating that a man should continue working to get more of it for her. Credit was invented so that women could put things that her husband couldn’t afford on his tab, thereby requiring him to work even if he came to the realization that he was being duped by her vampiric spending habits, seeing as the state would then proceed to drag the man away and punish him if he failed to provide for his woman’s unquenchable thirst for goodies.
@ depletionist
Here (UK) at least, physical education is a compulsory subject on the national curriculum.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/239040/PRIMARY_national_curriculum_-_Physical_education.pdf
And if you think boisterousness is banned then you’ve never been forced to play British Bulldogs or Murderball.
(Which I quite enjoyed so not complaining)
And as for access to education, non-Brits may be confused as to why “Public Schools” here are actually private fee-charging schools. But that’s because they were the first school open to the children of the general public. Those who could afford to pay anyway.
Prior to that schools were operated by organisations like the various guilds and military regiments; and only open to the children of members of each particular organisation.
It wasn’t until 1876 that universal free education was introduced; for ages 5 to 13. Although kids could leave school from age 10 if they had a a certificate to show they’d reached a suitable level of attainment to be allowed into the labour market.
@TheDelusionist
As always with your ilk, all you know is rhetoric, which is why you never respond to specific questions about or citations of historical facts except to deny that they happened. Put up or shut up, you ridiculous reactionary reprobate.
@opposablethumbs
Yeah they were really concerned that their 12 year old son been giving out his number to adult men on the internet. They thought he just been texting friends more. Hopefully it will help. They might be putting parental tracker and such on his phine since he can’t be responsible. She kept telling me he’s normally such a good boy and I said i don’t doubt that. But he’s getting groomed by the wrong people. It’s not just puberty
If this were true, then “the gynocracy” has been in existence since the invention of agriculture. Go your own way, MGTOW, but don’t take agriculture with you, since that a gynocracy thing.
@Lainy
Thank you for doing that. I hope there’s still time for his parents to help him turn things around. Kid seems pretty far gone.
He put up another blog post boasting that he and his invisible friend “igormgtow” schooled us all and then got banned from WHTM for “wrongthink” and “chad energy”. Sure, Jan.
You know, I’m starting to think that the Depletionist doesn’t think very highly of men!
@Lainy
Did good.
@Lainy:
I do hope the trouble was because it was rape porn, not because it was gay porn.
@The Doofus:
Yeah, because football scholarships and the football jocks getting with all the best-looking girls is such convincing evidence that physical activity and boisterousness are bad qualities to possess. :/
The correct spelling of the second word is “sociopaths”. Unless you mean to make the misandrist claim that all men are sociopaths …
@Buttercup
A hide and seek game, presumably.
I saw. Did Igormgtow ever show up anyway? I guess we’ll know if similar drivel starts showing up.
@The Depletionist
Since money is a gynocracy invention, I assume it would be ok if I took all of yours off your hands for you.
@Dalilama
“As always with your ilk, all you know is rhetoric, which is why you never respond to specific questions about or citations of historical facts except to deny that they happened.”
Which citations have I been given? What hstorical “facts” have I denied? I have merely provided an alternative interpretation of the history of our world, one that clearly has your liberal feathers rustled. You have provided me with scarcely anything to work with, you pusillanimous projecting pedant.
“Put up or shut up, you ridiculous reactionary reprobate.”
And what, exactly, are you going to do if I don’t? I do not appreciate the threat of use of force that hides behind your words as well as an elephant behind street light.
@surplus
I think it’s because he’s 12 and he shouldn’t be watching any porn.
When I was 12, I found a copy of Story of O and a volume of Victorian spanking erotica. It did fuck me up a bit.
@lainy
No man should watch porn, regardless of age.
@dumbass
It means shut up because no one really cares about the rants you post. We just laugh at your soft week nature
@ dumbass
I’m glad you feel like you can tell all men what to do. My husband can watch porn all he wants. Sometimes we watch porn together and fuck to it. You are such a prude
Why can’t trolls capitalize names? Is it that hard for them? Did they not finish 2nd grade
@lainy
Has anyone ever sat you down to tell you how thoroughly sick-minded and perverse you are? Ofc not, you’re a woman so you get the benefit of the doubt. What is this? Some kind of digital orgy that you’re having with your husband, some kind of sick exhibitionism whereby everybody in this comment section ever has to know what goes on between you two behind closed doors? The less I know about you and your boink-slave’s penis, the better.
@Lainy
School is a gynocratic conspiracy, don’t you know. So language skills and math and everything else taught in school are sus.
@dumbass
Yeah my husband ajd i have real in person orgies. We have a bdsm club we go to. I’m partial to watching him with other women. Again your just a prude
@The Dumbass
Dali offered you a book to read and Lindsay offered you multiple real world examples. You’ve chosen to ignore them.
Who made you the ruler of men? Can women watch porn?
You’re clearly keeping this all rent free in your head.
@LindsayIrene
When I was 12 I read the first few Xanth books and that caused some damage. Then I later found out Piers Anthony was a pedophile and realized that the signs were all there in his books.