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Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens lose it over Harry Styles in a dress

When Harry Styles agreed to model a series of dresses and skirts for a Vogue cover shoot, he knew it would stir up controversy. He probably didn’t think he was going to be blamed for undermining civilization itself. But that’s what some right-wing opinion-havers would have you believe.

“Blexit” leader Candace Owens started the brouhaha with this melodramatic tweet:

She followed up with a swipe at feminism:

It wasn’t long until fast-talking dunderhead Ben Shapiro decided to chime in.

But Ben wasn’t content to simply share a couple of tweets on the issue, and so he took it to his podcast today, delivering a nearly half-hour rant on the subject, interrupted only by Shapiro reading out ads for luxury bedsheets and his publication the Daily Wire.

He began by not-so-subtly suggesting that men wearing dresses might deserve a punch in the mouth, and followed with a rambling, repetitive rant taking on what he, likes Owens, sees as a dire threat to western civilization: men in “floofy” frocks.

This excerpt will give you some of the flavor of the thing:

But Shapiro wasn’t just annoyed; he presented himself as a noble guardian of civilization fighting off the cross-dressing barbarians.

“This stuff matters,” he declared.

It matters. Because these are fundamental ideas for the preservation of civilization. Boys and girls are different. Boys and girls are different. And it’s important to inculcate in your children that boys and girls are different. And any parents who fail to inculcate in a boy that manliness is a good thing, and that responsible manliness helped build civilizations … any parent that does not teach their girls that femininity, meaning the protection of hearth and home in a different way than masculinity, is a good thing. Any parent that doesn’t teach their girls that is not doing their kid any favors. They’re undermining the civilizational compact that men and women [have], based on biology and in every human culture.

Dude, it’s just a man in a dress. Cis male musicians have been donning dresses for decades — from David Bowie to Kurt Cobain — and somehow civilization hasn’t come tumbling down.

But Shapiro thinks this is a Very Important Topic.

We shouldn’t be shy about discussing these issuesl the left certainly isn’t shy about discussing these issues. They’ll put these [ideas] in public schools, they’ll tell your kindergartener that real men wear dresses. And then you’ll be explaining to a five year old that real men don’t wear dresses. And I don’t feel that’s an acceptable ramification of our cultural discussion.

I really don’t think there’s much discussion of cross-dressing in kindergarten.

Shapiro throws in a weird racial aside:

Harry Styles is a free man, living in a western country, in a west by the way that is defended by white masculine men, as a general rule.

Shapiro insists he has nothing against Harry Styles. It’s just that when Styles puts on a dress he is TEARING APART THE VERY FABRIC OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION

I’m not saying don’t pick up his CDs; I’m not saying don’t listen to his music; I’m not saying don’t watch the movies he’s in. All I’m saying is that when you put out an argument that men ought to act like women and that this is a good thing you’re doing something that tears at the fabric of not only civilization but family and the fabric of childrearing and everybody with half a brain knows this.

Again, Ben, it’s just a man in a dress, a playful tweak of conventional notions of masculinity. How fragile is masculinity — how fragile is civilization itself — if it can be brought to its knees by a handful of pictures of a man in a dress?

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Naglfar
Naglfar
21 minutes ago

@Eric

that’s not my capitalism they just didn’t do it right

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman

Eric Hughes Robillard
21 minutes ago

@SurplustoRequirements Because capitalism rulez

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
21 minutes ago

Private militaries wouldn’t actually do shit to anyone, because it wouldn’t be in their best interest to do so

Google Blackwater, you dumb fuck.

Eric Hughes Robillard
20 minutes ago

@Naglfar wow you use rational wiki as a valid source. Why am I not suprised.

Last edited 19 minutes ago by Eric Hughes Robillard
Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
19 minutes ago

that’s not my capitalism they just didn’t do it right

And what would make yours different? A rule against that sort of thing? But then it would have … regulations …

Alan Robertshaw
19 minutes ago

@ naglfar

The relevant tutor was a bit of a lefty; hence my plan. Sadly he passed away a while ago. But for his funeral his friends organised a trades union demo.

Eric Hughes Robillard
15 minutes ago

@Naglfar we are now saving the mammoth from peasants like you

Last edited 14 minutes ago by Eric Hughes Robillard
Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
14 minutes ago

How fascinating. What does your incontinence have to do with capitalism?

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
14 minutes ago

Eric, your personal imaginary capitalism has never existed and has no connection to the world as it is. Capitalists will continue to do whatever they can get away with, as they always have. Did you know Coca Cola has funded a Colombian death squad to keep local workers in line? Then there’s the Purdue family covering up data that showed that Oxycontin was addictive, leading to untold death and devastation. It’s okay to have an imagination, but you need to realize that your fantasy world bears no relation to reality.

The Depletionist
The Depletionist
13 minutes ago

@lindsayirene

Regulations exist because mediocre, paper-shuffling nobodies with no talent, gumption, or creativity still insist on eating, so they are provided with cushy government jobs, where they can get paid to make new problems which they will do fuck all about, until elections come up, at which time they will hastily cobble together a solution even worse the the original problem, so that they can hopefully win the election and continue eating at the tax-payer funded buffet known as “the state.”

Lol at liberals always making it sound like people just can’t live without the state, even though we’ve been doing it for millennia.

Eric Hughes Robillard
13 minutes ago

@Surplus To Requirements because your rebellious female serfs

Dalillama
11 minutes ago

The ancestors of the @igormgtow family used to own serfs

My family used to own Aquitaine, I don’t know why you think this might impress anyone. As Naglfar pointed out, none of it makes a damn bit of difference today.

Last edited 10 minutes ago by Dalillama
Eric Hughes Robillard
10 minutes ago

@The Depletionist
thank you!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
10 minutes ago

Okay, then, you don’t need regulations. Go drink a nice bottle of RadiThor, then–it’s made with real radium! LOL at this kid who’s never supported himself complaining about people needing the state to live.

Last edited 9 minutes ago by LindsayIrene
Naglfar
Naglfar
10 minutes ago

@The Depletionist

Lol at liberals always making it sound like people just can’t live without the state, even though we’ve been doing it for millennia.

Imagine thinking we’re liberals. Not everyone who isn’t you is a liberal.

where they can get paid to make new problems which they will do fuck all about

Ah, like failing to manage a pandemic and actively interfering in efforts to stop it. Like former president Donald Trump.

Last edited 8 minutes ago by Naglfar
Eric Hughes Robillard
8 minutes ago

I just took a fat s~~~ in my pants.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
7 minutes ago

Wait a minute, I change my mind! Get rid of all the regulations! What we need these days are rivers capable of catching fire!
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Last edited 7 minutes ago by LindsayIrene
Eric Hughes Robillard
6 minutes ago

Where is laneytard at?

Eric Hughes Robillard
6 minutes ago

Release the kraken!1!

Eric Hughes Robillard
5 minutes ago

Qanon is the truth

Naglfar
Naglfar
4 minutes ago

@LindsayIrene
I want to work 20 hours a day in a mine being paid in currency I can only use at the mine owner’s shop. And with no safety equipment or worker’s compensation. No regulations capitalism, y’all!

@Eric
Hope you enjoy the Biden administration.

Last edited 4 minutes ago by Naglfar
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
4 minutes ago

Scared she’s really talking to your mom?

Eric Hughes Robillard
2 minutes ago

Trump won 410 electoral votes.

The Depletionist
The Depletionist
2 minutes ago

@Naglfarce

“Ah, like failing to manage a pandemic and actively interfering in efforts to stop it. Like former president Donald Trump.”

Like jack-booted thugs with guns and badges (paid for via theft – er, I mean, taxation!) removing people from property which, without that state you love so much, they might enjoy every right to use atm? Libs are always overlooking the most pernicious of the state’s functions, because they imagine that it makes them seem like proper grownups.

Dalillama
2 minutes ago

@TheDipshit
As per usual for people foolish enough to blither about the NAP, your gullibility is only outweighed by your ignorance. So far your commentary on history, economics, and sociology has been, in Pauli’s immortal phrasing, not even wrong. Do please name a historical society that hasn’t had a state; the research required for that might elevate your arguments to wrong, and thus be vaguely worth addressing.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
2 minutes ago

Well, the dumbarse did have his phone number posted too.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
2 minutes ago

@Naglfar

JFC I thought that kind of thing only happened a hundred years ago.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
3 seconds ago

Like jack-booted thugs with guns and badges (paid for via theft – er, I mean, taxation!) removing people from property which, without that state you love so much, they might enjoy every right to use atm?

You mean Native Americans?

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