We get letters! From angry weirdos! In this case, the strange missive came in the form of a comment that someone calling himself The Depletionist tried to leave here in response to a post of mine. I didn’t let the comment through, but it’s too good — by which I mean too terrible — not to share with you all.
The topic at hand: Do women destroy society just by having basic human rights? Mr. Depletionist says yes, because of course he does. Also, he’s afraid we’re all going to turn Chinese. We’ll get to that in a second. But first:
There is no form of civilizational decaying method quite as effective as those which utilize women, and you all know it.
And why is that Mr. Man?
Women are an infantile race, and providing them with the same rights (actually, given our current gynocratic world order, I should say MORE rights) than your typical well-bread western male is a recipe for societal decline and general depravity the world over, no matter where such deracinating schemes unfold (and, through the use of international pressure groups, such as the US military, an institution which is part of the current gynocrat occupied government, there will be no corner of our world safe from this sickness, and it will no doubt be spread through the use of violence).
That was all one sentence.
Evidently, it all comes back to birthrates: We’re not producing enough (white) babies for the country to survive, and it’s all the fault of the ladies.
I’ve seen the numbers, I’ve done the math. I’m quite aware that brains such as your are not good for anything rigorous and analytical, like mathematics of science, but instead, stupidly specialized for infantile spending splurges on horrendous “fuck me” paint that you smear on your face like cream cheese and caviar on a bagel, but I’ve investigated the causes of decline in birthrate in western civilization, I know what the socialist-supported deficit and trade debt amounts to for western males, this being an integral piece of the part to disincentivize work amongst men by enslaving them, if not the debt of shrieking hags that they are bound to by the vice grips of the state , then through the powers of governmental debt, likely wasted on socialistic excess.
That was all one sentence too.
This sinister plot from within will lead to the gradual weakening of our civilization, until we are each and every one of us replaced with Asians.
Er, what?
You dance in the streets like heathens when Biden wins, but his radical left wing agenda will mean the death of our nation, our entire way of life, as we will be sitting ducks for the China-lead takeover, and have you seen that Biden is soft on China, allowing them to trade with us without so much as just a little bit of terrifs, well, he is.
I’m sure you’re quite the expert on “terrifs.”
It’s game over, bitches. I’m leaving america, I’ve got skills that can be quite useful in the rising world, there’s nothing worth living here for anyeway, least of all you ungrateful slags.
Well, you’re not leaving any time soon, alas, as Trump’s criminal mishandling of COVID has led most other countries to close their borders to Americans. But good luck with that. We won’t be sorry to see you go.
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@Paireon
I figured as much. I don’t want to inflict fascists upon my northern neighbors either.
Threp beat me to it, but the main one I’ve seen is salmon (which is probably because lox, or smoked salmon, is a common bagel topping). Still pricey (about $100/kg or so where I live) but much less so than beluga. I’ve never had it, so Idk about the taste.
FWIW my favorite thing to put on a bagel with cream cheese is slices of banana pepper (or jalapeño, or really any pepper). It’s not a super common bagel topping but it is good.
Generally the far right uses “heathen” to denigrate anyone who isn’t them, though often with a special vacancy for Jews because that is one of their main targets.
@Margaret Pless
I’m not sure, but I don’t think so. It’s pretty common for driveby trolls to show up here and throw out a comment because they just want to troll, many are allowed through because they’re not quite this exceptionally bad or because David knows we like to wind up the trolls. I think most trolls either have the intention of throwing some cheap shots or getting into an argument, not so much winding up in a post.
@Klaaraa
I’ve been seeing that idea as well on Twitter. It’s also inaccurate because Biden did campaign, it’s just that his rallies were not giant cult superspreaders like Trump’s. At this point I think most Trump supporters are just scrambling for any explanation they can find.
@Diego
My guess is that their thought process went something like this:
-Trump lost! => What do we do? => Democrats said they were going to Canada 4 years ago => I know, let’s go to Mexico to own the libs!
Idk much about the current politics of Mexico, but I’d imagine it’s not a paradise for white nationalists.
@Ohlmann
Indeed. A lot of the toxic masculinity mindset of the manosphere is based around the idea that if a man has enough sex tokens, women should fuck him. When it doesn’t work, they turn to pickup artistry, which claims to teach them the cheat codes. When that doesn’t work, they become incels or MGTOWs.
@Klaaraa, well, Trump’s “campaigning” consisted of super-spreader rallies where he repeated the tired old hits of “lock her up” and “build the wall”, and he was incapable of articulating any real plans for his second term. It just brought it home to voters not already in the cult that he’s achieved very little of positive value so far, and has no ideas beyond wrecking and grift. Biden did campaign, but all he really needed to do was point and say “I’m not that guy”.
@ klaaraa
I’ve encountered a few election denialists on social media.
But as of yet not one of them has been able to explain why the Dems would rig the presidential ballot but not also fix the House and the Senate whilst they were at it.
And I thought my spelling was horrible.
I have serious doubts about his marketable skills as an emigrant. Definitely not as a writer since he can’t install spell check, and clearly has no talent as an editor.
Diego: congrats! I hadn’t yet seen the news that the asshat had resigned.
Moggie:
At one point, I heard Trump’s campaign strategists were complaining that his beloved rallies were essentially just preaching to the choir (including the TV audience), whereas debating Biden on prime time TV might have actually reached some fence-sitting voters. However, I suspect Trump’s personal performance could have impressed anyone who wasn’t already convinced by his campaign advertising.
I thought to myself that Biden didn’t need (luckily for him) to be able to energize Democratic voters because Trump was doing that for him.
Alan:
Well, one could perhaps believe the fake ballots were ones that did vote Dem all the way down. In this scenario, many actual Biden voters would ignore the downticket races.
Though I’ve heard some people were specifically suspicious of the validity of the president-only ballots. Plus other stories where “voter fraud” was committed in the most conspicuous/inefficient way possible.
@Alan Robertshaw
None have been able to tell me either. The most annoying one I talked to responded to one of my tweets and insisted that it’s impossible for more than 130M people to vote in an election because no other election had had that many people vote. I tried to explain that this election had record turnout because Trump was that bad, but they weren’t having it.
I’m also seeing a large number making bets on the winner *after* the election (like this one). I can’t speak for everyone, but most betting locations don’t really accept bets on things after they happen. And most intelligent people don’t bet for the opposite outcome to what happened.
@Lumipuna
Definitely. Trump spent his whole presidency building a cult and alienating anyone outside of it. If you want to increase your support, the last thing you want is to bash everyone else and only advertise to your own people. It’s like only having ads for a product inside the packaging of the product.
My analysis (which is largely based off of AOC’s) was that the main area Democrats fell short in was not rallies, but door-to-door knocking. Since that was written off for many areas due to COVID, we didn’t do it even though it should have been possible to do safely and socially distant. This might have made a crucial difference in some down-ballot races. I’m hoping people can learn from this and do better re: campaigning for the runoffs in GA, but I’m not too confident.
@Nagflar : then again, the vote for Trump was not small. He was soundly defeated, but even in raw vote it’s more 45/55 than 20/80.
While Trump clearly have a small hardcore cult, in practice he talk to a significantly larger group than that. I don’t mean by that that they are any less evil, but that the core of red hatted hardcore morons aren’t the only target of Trump, by far.
In mathematics, to disprove a conjectured universal statement, it suffices to exhibit one counterexample.
Emmy Noether.
Marie Curie.
I meant to write, “could NOT have impressed”
Certainly, the entire Republican-leaning voter base seems to have been very efficiently mobilized for Trump. However, I doubt he “speaks” to all of these people, either through his rallies or otherwise.
More like Trump’s presidency has been normalized for the many people who are habitual Republican voters but initially disliked him in 2016. Meanwhile. many of the passive conservatives that were mobilized by Trump in 2016 are still with him, because they actually feel he speaks to them. Huge amount of money was dumped into campaign advertising on both sides, and the US Right increasingly lives in a propaganda bubble, which feeds voter turnout.
Alliteration.
Imagery and hyperbole.
More imagery and simile.
This guy should give up on being all mathematical and scientific. He’s a literary genius in the making! /s
Side note: Bagels read as “casual comfort food” to me – the caviar combo would seem a bit odd. Maybe that’s the idea? Or he’s just flexing that he’s fancy? (See, I can do alliteration too.)
Hello.
> Penemue
Hear, hear ! Half asian, born under X, i used my 4 months guile to seduce a couple into adopting me. And how i get paid for this successful incredible and insidious invisible infiltration ? Whites find me too yellow, yellows find me too white.
(Out of sarcasm, i am a lucky person, with a very loving adoptive family. The racism outside the family and friend circle is still a thing, alas)
> Diego
Is he part of a new Odessa project ?
Have a nice day, everybody.
@Alan Robertshaw
I’ve seen one person say that the rigging was done by Never-Trump Republicans. (Specifically George W Bush, Jeb Bush, and Diebold, who had previously been accused of rigging Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.)
Looking back, I think he might have been trolling, though.
I’ve been told not to reject an argument out of hand based on just spelling and grammar. But if said person is claiming to be some sort of expert and “does their own research,” why can’t we? You can’t possibly be an expert in the “downfall of western civilization” if you can’t even spell tariff, don’t know the term is “well bred,” and have no idea how to structure a sentence. Seriously, why can’t we dismiss certain people out of hand if they’re just that bad at communicating while simultaneously claiming to be “experts?”
@Some Chick : there’s no reason to reject his argument because the form is bad. Since he don’t bring proof, and don’t bring documentation, and don’t bring substance, and his thesis is one that other people have tried and failed to argumentate, you can reject his argument on numerous other grounds.
There are experts who are very bad at communicating their ideas. We have enough proof that this guy isn’t one of thoses and is just stupid.
O/T, but has anyone else been watching the right wing melting down over Harry Styles wearing a dress on a magazine cover?
Wasn’t there a whole post here about that a couple of months back?
Meanwhile: does anyone know how to get hate speech removed at Facebook? AFAICT a Nazi can defeat their moderation system by the simple expedient of embedding their odious claptrap as embedded text in an image file, and posting the image, instead of just posting the text. The one I ran across had numerous repetitions, in different sizes and shades some overlapping others, of “white lives matter”, and a few other bits of text including misogynistically referring to BLM as c-words. I reported it the other day and have now been told that their computer algorithms did not detect any hate speech so it stays up. Well of course your computer algorithms did not detect any hate speech, Zuck; if they had they could also automate solving captchas and then we’d all be inundated in an ocean of spam, now, wouldn’t we? Yeesh. A human, though, should have had no difficulty recognizing it for what it was: both anti-black and anti-woman hate speech, complete with an explicit slur against the latter.
@Surplus
That was a different incident. This one just started the other day. They all kind of blend together after a while though.
@Some Chick:
Because throwing someone’s argument out based on their spelling and grammar is ableism.
You can absolutely be an expert about something and still have bad grammar and spelling. For example, I have a severe reading disability so instead of looking at the printed page I tend to use audiobooks, which don’t indicate anything about spelling or grammar since you can’t see it, and therefore if you hadn’t seen the word or phrase and just heard it instead, you wouldn’t necessarily know if you were spelling it correctly or using the right commas or spacing.
@Yutolia
There’s also a lot of racist and classist implications inherent to spelling/grammar policing. Someone who has had less education might not be able to spell as well as someone with more, and there’s also a lot of correction aimed at minorities that have different dialects, such as AAVE.
@Naglfar:
(googles “Harry Styles”): Much better than that dress from the post a few weeks back.
While the implications are true, having a ton of spelling / grammar error make a text harder to read and understand. People don’t talk about it just to be pedant and show their superiority, even if it’s a factor.
(and I know the irony given my own grammar problems)
I believe that people should do reasonable effort, depending on their own abilities more than on the expectation of the reader. Since most of the time I don’t know the writer well, I rarely feel that I should comment on grammar and all.
There’s also the issue of one’s goal. Sure, if someone try to convince me for the 1000th time that the White Male Race is superior, I probably will find any and all pretext to stop reading, including grammer errors. But if you try to debunk such a piece for the benefit of something else, the argument “it’s badly written” is *probably* not the most convincing one you can find.
The main place where I have problem with bad spelling that actually hamper my ability to understand what is going on is in french, where you can quite easily find sentences made by native speakers who are almost impossible to decipher. I never have found something quite like this in english ; while there’s a stereotype for indian to talk mangled english, the worse abuse of english language I have seen are much tamer than the french one.
@Yutolia (and everyone else)
Generally, I agree with you. Throwing out an argument because of a few errors here and there is as short-sighted as it is condescending. But this dude…
He falls under my “If you’re going to claim to be better than me, you have to better than me.” If right off the bat, I can spell better than you, then you’ve already failed. I guess that’s actually my larger point. Why can’t we dismiss the arguments of people claiming to be Better Than the second they screw up?
Experts can f&*k up common grammar, spelling, etc. That’s just normal human error. But if you’re claiming superiority and you don’t know it’s “tariff,” I’m just not listening. Tell it walking, as the kids say.
@Some Chick : some actual experts can be dyslexic and write terrif instead of tariff when they don’t have a checker for their article.
The part where you’re right is that if that guy was an expert, it would show somewhere. The part where you’re wrong is supposing that experts alway spell correctly ; while the fact they use specialized terms all the time help, they might still not be able to spell correctly.
I also believe that the most apparent and easy to see fuck up is definitely not the spelling errors in his text.
This may be of interest to people who like analysing election results.
It shows how Trump performed as compared to Republican candidates for the House.
https://interactive.guim.co.uk/uploader/embed/2020/11/house-v-trump/giv-3902vPUvk8O8MjOo/