Over on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, they’re talking about hickeys. More specifically, they’re talking about how alpha men like themselves can strategically use any hickeys they come to possess as a tool to impress the ladies.
Gracienoob starts off the discussion with these jargon-rich observations:
I speak Red Pill, so let me translate: “Plates” are women one is dating casually; “preselection” is the notion that women will find a dude more attractive if they know other women are also interested in said dude; “dread” is when women in relationships worry that they could get dumped; and “smw” is “sexual market value,” that is, one’s sexual appeal.
The trapezius is just the trapezius, a set of muscles on the neck and back. I’m not sure why Mr. Gracienoob didn’t simply say “on the back of my neck” if that’s what he means.
Here, courtesy of Wikipedia, is a gif of a trapezius riding the skeleton carousel:
Anyway, so Mr. Gracienoob is convinced that getting lots of hickeys will make his assorted, er, plates jealous of one another and thus make him even more irresistible than he was before.
I mean, maybe if he were in high school it would.
In fact, Mr. Gracienoob’s suggested strategy is so thoroughly high school that even some of the Red Pill commenters warn him about it. red_Man writes that while the proposed strategy might make sense in theory,
it looks tryhard if you you are walking with a hickey on your neck all the time. And also hickeys are kinda a highschool thing
“So high school,” replies another.
Another commenter just thinks it’s too obvious.
“If anything make it subtle,” writes Chael-OkGreat-Sonnen. “Invite a girl to your house and leave something like ponytail holder.”
So the properly subtle strategy would be to buy a set of scrunchies and leave them haphazardly around your apartment so that any dates you bring home will see them and assume that you’re absolutely drowning in hot babes?
I mean, that’s somehow even more pathetic than the hickey thing.
You’ll be glad to know that Mr. Gracienoob has been convinced to abandon his hickey strategy. “I think I’ll adopt a no mark policy,” he tells one skeptical commenter. “I think saying I don’t do marks would cause dread as well.”
When this policy fails to amp up the lady dread, I suspect he’d going to revert to his original plan — and try to jumpstart the whole process by drawing hickeys on his own neck with a sharpie.
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My bet is that the reference to the trapezius is basically a type of weight lifting virtue signaling. A lot of redpillers are obsessed with working out because they see it as one of the few ways to increase their “sexual market value”. If you hang out with lifters, you’ll definitely hear them talking about muscle groups like that pretty routinely. Whether he’s actually an avid weight lifter, or whether he’s just trying to impress people on the internet is anyone’s guess.
Why do these guys have to turn a normal sex thing into a weird theory thing. I swear, none of them even actually enjoy sex.
@Alan Robertshaw:
You’ve been warned repeatedly about this. Don’t mess with time travel! It’s how we got into this mess to begin with!
@ surplus
Well the laws of time are about the only laws certain world leaders haven’t broken, yet.
(Can you say yet when it’s time travel? Maybe there is time travel in the future but they don’t come back because they’re still arguing about what tenses to use?
ETA: Maybe a future SCOTUS has ruled the laws of time unconstitutional; and under common law that means they alway have been.
@Lainy
Of course they don’t. Toxic masculinity + conservatism makes everything out to be a zero sum transaction and renders sex a status symbol that women give to men. This precludes any sort of pleasure for any party, as it’s solely for status. In order to gain this status they either try to pursue all the sex they can joylessly a la PUAs or they just sit around embittered complaining a la MGTOWs and incels.
Can I just point out that I find the phrase “ponytail holder” immensely weird? I keep imagining some kind of rigid contraption, like a cup holder or something, but for hair. :-/ Just say “hair tie”, dude.
(Also, I interpreted his plan as “have a woman come over [for sex] and leave her hair tie behind for the next lady to see”, but might be mistaken.)
@ drvannostrum
Indeed. Although in my experience lifters use abbreviations, so that would be ‘traps’ (similarly; delts, pecs, glutes etc.)
I know this from asking what the bit I’ve just hurt is called.
@ penny
Maybe they’re being careful not to infringe the copyright. 🙂
Seriously, you don’t want to mess with Rommy’s lawyers! See below…
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/70/415/2502901/
@Alan Robertshaw
That’s exactly right. The reason I found out about them is that I had a friend in college who was really into weightlifting. I could figure out what most of the abbreviations were, but I had to ask him about ‘traps’. He told me it was short for trapezius and pointed at them. And now, almost 20 years later, I’ve finally encountered the term in the wild.
@ drvannostrum
There’s a rather sweet tale of a trans guy who was in some fast food place. He noticed a couple of bodybuilder types who kept looking back at him and whispering to themselves.
He got a bit worried, in case he wasn’t ‘passing’ and they were about to start something; but as they left they just gave him an affirmative nod.
He asked the server what they’d been talking about and she said “Oh, they were just saying how hard you must work out to get pecs like that.”
This.
As a lifter there are few times I specify muscle groups this precisely outside of training, talking about training or giving/asking for medical advice. Or snark:
Some of these people need a swift kick in the gluteus maximus.
@Alan Robertshaw
I’m aware of all those muscle groups, though I admit I hadn’t heard the trapezius being referred to as “traps” before today. I’ve also heard “lats” and “quads”. I have virtually no experience with lifting weights, so most of this is stuff I remember from anatomy class in high school.
O/T: As I’m sure you’ve all heard, Amy Coney Barrett was confirmed to the Supreme Court. This is a dark day for women’s rights, healthcare, and human rights in general.
OT – SCOTUS
A friend of mine has a theory/speculation. He is suspecting that the GOP leadership has had a quiet word or two with the GOP SCOTUS justices, so that when Trump loses and takes it to the Supremes, they will rule against him, with some lofty phrases about Americans needing to exercise the franchise in peace or some such, with the intent of making themselves look good. Having gotten what they wanted from Trump, they will now cut him loose.
I wish I could laugh off this idea. It’s so twenty-fucking-twenty.
At this point I’m just waiting for the ball drop and then the crowd in Times Square to start singing “Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!”
@VP
With all due respect to you and your friend, I doubt that would happen. The GOP knows that if Trump loses there will likely be mass uprisings from his fans and that they’ll be directionless, having sacrificed any of the party’s previous plans for Trumpism. They’re also probably not smart enough to work that all out.
@Naglfar
I find it more cheerful than some of the alternatives.
Time to curl up under a few blankets and hope a cat sits on me.
@VP
Fair enough. It’s good to keep hope alive during these trying times.
Confession, I faked a hickey on my neck once in high school to seem like I was sexually active. No one believed me. Emphasis on “in high school”.