Red Pillers see themselves as serious, scientific students of the human condition, helping one another make sense of the sometimes hard truths of human nature. In the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, they deal forthrightly with important questions about life and how to live it. Like: What do I do if my girlfriend insists on walking in front of me? Is playing piano a beta cuck activity? And perhaps the most perplexing question of all: Are lesbians real?
I am happy to announce that Red Pill scientists have reached a consensus on this critical issue: No, lesbians do not exist, outside of a tiny handful of really screwed-up ladies. And also, they’re ugly.
Let’s look at the scientific evidence. According to one Red Pill commenter called Joey_Lopez,
Most of the lesbians I’ve known are not really lesbians. They play lesbian because they think it’ll make them hotter. Without that gimmick more of them would just be below average.
The real lesbians are a product of toxic feminism. They been trained to see men with such disdain that to them the only logical thing to do is get with a female.
Zxcvb7809 is equally blunt:
Every woman I know who claims she is a lesbian sleeps with or has slept with men. They are closer to the socially inept side of the scale I will add which might explain why they would just go for women as opposed to men. I kind of see it as a cop out.
-saltymangos- offers this explanation:
They aren’t real.
In their minds, unattainable/taken men are more attractive. They want what they can’t have. So, they apply this to their own lives and try to become “unattainable” in hopes of being more attractive in the man’s eye. This is only true for women, not men. Men don’t see you as more attractive if you’re taken, but some women cannot think/see past that and get with another woman in hopes of becoming “unattainable” and therefore more attractive.
Very wise, Mr. Mangos, very wise.
TheTrenTr*nnyTrain has a simpler explanation:
There are no lesbians, only ugly women who can’t attract men.
Now, there are a few dissenters. According to BoundaryChimps,
Homosexual behavior can be seen sometimes in non-human animals, so it can’t possibly be only an artifact of girls trying to play games or even of general human psychology.
The only thing left is that it’s real, and that it exists at a level below whatever makes us humans special. Maybe it’s wires accidentally getting crossed before birth or whatever (I mean, it’s not like they contribute to the gene pool), but whatever the cause it is most definitely a thing.
There’s even one dissenter who claims that there are not only lesbians but that some of them are actually pretty.
“It’s not just ugly chicks.,”_Anarchon_ claims,
There are some good looking chicks with deep-seated issues that causes it…typically borderline personality disorder type stuff (abandonment, early abuse, etc). It’s basically incels and femcels that go gay.
I’m not sure I can accept that. The contributions of -saltymangos- and his esteemed colleagues are quite compelling.
And now onto other important questions: Are women mammals? Can they stand upright on their hind legs? Are they capable of tool use?
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I have it on good authority that every Kardashian sister can use a mascara wand.
I feel like many of these men only know about lesbians from porn.
Well, I’m pretty sure it doesn’t pass the Bechdel Test, for one. And many MRAs would struggle to pass the Turing Test.
“Red pill” and “scientific” do not belong in the same sentence.
I know some good looking sapphic women, but I don’t think the two things are correlated.
Political lesbianism doesn’t work (and unfortunately created Julie Bindel), but MRAs, maybe you could take a lesson and hook up with each other and leave everyone else alone.
The number of men I’ve seen get angry at a woman for having a partner/spouse makes me question this.
I have nipples and hair, so I think I’m a mammal.
Let me get some twigs and extract some grubs and I’ll get back to you.
I’d imagine their take on bisexual women is either that we’re doing it for attention (which seems to be the general stereotype) or that we’re just sluts who can’t find a Chad.
Wow! My lesbian friends will surprised to know they aren’t actually lesbians but ugly women who can’t attract men. LOL! One of my closest friends is a lesbian who, if she were straight, would probably have to beat of hordes of thirsty men with a stick.
No, lesbians are a myth, like the Loch Ness Monster or the male orgasm.
Well, there’s a lot of “researchers” who would say no. They note such activities as changing a tire, fixing a broken engine, or operating the typical gaming console, which are self-evidently impossible for any normal female.
And when they can do any of the above, that’s evidence in favor of the existence of lesbians.
I think that’s how it works, anyhow. Now of you’ll excuse me, I have to go and speculate on alien influence on the Pyramids and postulate that Trump actually has a functioning brain cell. Equally plausible, after all.
If Lesbians aren’t real, explain this:
Even if there’s a peaceful transition of power (say, because there’s a 400-electoral-vote blowout for Biden), there could be trouble:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/8/1984916/-A-warning-about-what-s-to-come-when-Trump-loses-Paul-Krugman-for-the-New-York-Times
Hm. Apparently my cousin and her girlfriend are ugly.
And I’m pretty sure ace women would make red pillers’ heads explode.
Damn, they got me *fades from existence*
@Surplus
Something very important for anyone on the left or even liberals in America is to prepare. Regardless of the outcome (which we likely won’t know for a few days after), Trump supporters are likely to be violent. If he wins; they’ll think it excuses them to kill people they don’t like. If he loses, they’ll do it as “revenge.”
Ah, yes, that old chestnut:. If you can actually do “guy” things as well or better than a guy, you must be a lesbian.. it’s the only explanation!
Or…they were never “guy” things to begin with, but just things, but culturally women were discouraged from doing them.
Ditto for body strength, clothes.
While it’s clear these nitwits are pining for the 50s, even liberals I don’t know assume I’m a lesbian. Older conservatives occasionally insist I’m a man. I really don’t care, but it just goes to show how pervasive sexism is.
It’s really weird any Redpiller is leaning into a “lesbians as unicorns” theory. These guys usually depend on the existence of lesbians to explain away all the women who fail to fall for their obvious charms.
So if lesbians aren’t real, what are the lesbians I know personally? Are we talking ghosts or shadow people or holograms? I really need these idiots to answer that one.
Oh, so it’s easier and requires less social acumen to convince women to sleep with you than men? That seems to contradict other great manosphere wisdom. I’d like to get the red pill science on that, please.
I guess women having (or being pressured into) cis/het relationships before they realize they’re gay isn’t a thing?
Or wasn’t. I don’t think it happens as much anymore. But I’ve read articles and stories about women in my age group (I’m 60) who simply didn’t know sex with another woman was even possible. I may have had a sheltered childhood, but I didn’t know anything about same-sex relationships until at least high school, and then the only thing I learned was that gay = BAD.
@Viscaria
I think they’d probably explain it by saying that any other lesbians are in the same situation and can’t find men, so they settle for each other. It doesn’t make any sense, but since when does any of their “logic”?
@Hambeast
You’d be surprised. A lot of people from very conservative religious backgrounds in conservative areas might not know about gay people growing up because they are often very restricted in what media they can see. Or a lot of queer people might try to convince themselves they are exclusively straight because of compulsory heterosexuality, aka comphet. For instance, I’ve read various writings by lesbians about how they tried to convince themselves they were straight, such as by claiming they found certain celebrity men attractive but none of the men they knew personally (and I assume a similar thing can happen for gay men).
I have seen a lot of repressed homosexuals.
Well, “a lot” might be overselling it. But maybe 1/5 to 1/4 of the homosexuals I have seen weren’t public about it because of their family or by fear of persecutions, and no doubt there’s plenty of closeted homosexuals that didn’t open to me too.
I don’t know of any transgender that force themselves to not be their real genders, but given the very very low populations of transgender I know of, I think it’s more an issue of small data sample. Plus, since transgender is even less accepted than homosexuality, I am less likely to actually know that someone is a repressed transgender.
@Ohlmann
I don’t have any exact figures, but I know/have known a lot of trans people who are out online but closeted IRL. As for cis LGB people, I remember a survey in the US showing that over 1/3 of gay and bisexual people aren’t out to their immediate family.
@ nobody,
THIS. YES.
Rural and urban populations often have very different skill sets; I’m sure there are plenty of rural women who wield chainsaws with ease, or hunt, for example, things all often considered to be “guy things”. I don’t want to know what manospherians think of that. ?
I wrote a longer comment that probably got put in moderation because it had links in it, but I just want to say quickly that @an autistic giraffe’s map made me laugh 😛
OT: International travel was already risky due to coronavirus, but the dangers are much worse than most realize.
@Bookworm in hijab
They’re so called thinking is problem the usual dance of, women can’t do X, and any woman who can do X is a Lesbian or something, wait, lesbians don’t exist…
*brain melts*
@Crip Dyke
That took me two seconds longer than it should have to get….lol
???
*damn, no police box emojis*
Given the examples of masculinity on display in this article, I am reminded of the phrase (I heard it here): Straight women are the greatest evidence that sexuality is not a choice.
Having said that, of all the tedious nonsense the manosphere spouts ‘lesbians don’t exist’ gets under my skin the most.
@ CD: if that’s not photoshopped, is it intended to be a Dalek, or is it just an unfortunate representation of a shower alongside the restrooms?
@Battering Lamb
There is no such thing as straight people. Ugly LGBT+ folks will pretend to be straight with the hope that looking unattainable will make them more attractive, but they don’t really want to be with someone of a different gender.
What, that makes just as much sense as what the MRAs are saying.
OT
I just e-mailed the local humane society to try to adopt a cat. Am I being too neurotic that once I did I start fretting “But what if I adopt a cat and the cat doesn’t like me?”