So the guys over in the Semen Retention subreddit — a more hardcore spinoff of the larger NoFap subreddit — are discussing the mysteries of female nature, as weirdo misogynists are wont to do. Specifically, the guys are trying to explain to one another why men often seem socially awkward, while women seem like naturals who can easily get along with anyone.
Turns out it’s because, at their essence, women are basically just large bees. According to a commenter called Tredolo214,
Women are natural, because women with each other are hive minds that think alike. They sense each other’s similar views of men, and their feminine energy reassures each other when they’re with each other. Many women always move in groups of two or more.
In a followup comment, he elaborates (somewhat incoherently) on his basic position:
The “safeness” of a woman’s solipsism is what gives her that confidence with interactions and men. If she’s with her girlfriends, she’s even more confident because of the secret view of their brain wiring they both share. It’s why women all seem to communicate at sub level when they’re with each other if you pay attention. … They’re vulnerable if they’re alone because they’re in a perpetual state of potential arousal at random shit of men.
Most of the commenters seem to agree that women are more natural because so little is expected of them, while men, as Tredolo214 argues, are “expect[ed] to be everything, charming, funny, intelligent, etc.”
“[M]en are the ones under attack,” he insists in another comment.
Masculinity is under attack. The reason so is because no one is sensing “off” in women. “Men” is this sort of scab women are picking at, because they themselves are manipulated to believe they’ve a reason to hate men. It’s what drives modern feminism. It’s clowned out and system is out of balance. Probably won’t be in balance any time soon until after some sort of collapse from men completely ejecting from system. That won’t happen any time soon, or at least in our lifetimes because simp mindset is too pervasive and anything other than is [seen as] “women hate”.
Someone called saltamontes11 agrees:
Women are not under attack. Anyone who denies that masculinity in general & boys in particular are constantly ridiculed in concept & discriminated against in fact, is probably helping perpetrate those new-world virtues. Everything a young man is or does he does conscious he can be troubled by anyone for anything about it, & that to defend himself opens him to MORE censure. … By LAW. Girls, the world is yours & you can SUE for more. Boys, HOW DARE YOU! How dare you whatever! WHATEVER! Girls good, boys bad. Simple as that.
Well no wonder women are more relaxed and natural than men! Ukdudeman explains further:
[S]ociety has given women an undeserved entitlement – society enables women at every turn; they have lost their restraints. Women push boundaries and society dares not reprimand or shame.
Uh oh!
This leads women to engage in ever-more perverse behaviour to boundary-test. Society then enables women even further for fear of being seen as “misogynistic”. We see this everywhere now in the west.
We do?
At the same time, men are shamed by society for their masculine traits. Masculinity is “toxic”, yet women will always find it attractive. Regardless, many men act “beta” because society tells them to – even though they are not rewarded for doing so.
At the same time, with no boundaries being enforced, women’s behaviour is becoming more aggressive and masculine which men find unattractive.
It’s a kind of upside down world where society is basically telling people to be more unattractive to the opposite sex (if you follow the rules as a man, or realise there are no boundaries if you’re a woman).
Clearly the only appropriate response for beleaguered cis men is to stop masturbating at once. Guard your essence!
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Who’s turn is it to make the Doctor Strangelove reference?
Holy confirmation bias, Batman!
Those posts need a theremin soundtrack.
For guys dedicated to nofapping, they sure spend a lot of time wanking each other off in that sub.
Often manosphereans seem to think something like this, but this is the first time I’ve seen it made explicit.
Of course, his observations can be readily explained by the fact that society emphasizes cooperation over competition in how it socializes girls, and competition over cooperation in how it socializes boys.
Safety in numbers in a world full of dangerously predatory men.
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Some people would have less expectations of a high-end household robot FFS. At least, they would not expect the robot to get pregnant and have kids.
Well, they’ve never met me. Maybe there’s a selection bias, but I know a lot of socially awkward women, myself included.
Dammit, they’re onto us!
Project much, horny guys who don’t masturbate?
I hear the Kuiper Belt has nice views. Go there.
Aye no! Thou muſteth bring back the ſcolds-bridle and ſtocks and pillory, for otherwiſe the women-folk ſhall run amok!
Black and white thinking much? It’s like how I might like to eat pizza with cheese, but wouldn’t like a thick layer of cheese on it.
Given the popularity of dominatrixes, I’d imagine aggressive women are attractive to quite a few men. Not sure about masculine women though.
@Surplus
Well…
wow, Naglfar, I was about to say the same exact thing! /s
I don’t really get along well with a lot of people, but then again, I’m agender. Maybe that’s why?
This seems like the perfect thread to tell y’all my news.
I have ADHD, I have know that and been diagnosed since I was 5 years old when my kindergarten teacher noticed I was a little different then the other children and after teaching for 50 years, she knew the look of these kind of things better then some doctors
I had often wondered if i was misdiagnosed with adhd and if i was really on the Autism spectrum. after some gentle encouragement from my husband, I finally got myself retested and drum roll please….
I am on both the ADHD spectrum and the Autism spectrum. Apparently you can be both.
@Alan
I’m going to be different and make a Granny Weatherwax reference.
Reading about these idjits makes me want to look for someone to sting.
Like bees… so we work hard, we’re smarter than we get credit for, our strength is in our communities, and if we stopped our work then civilization would collapse overnight?
Sounds about right.
@Crip Dyke
Don’t worry, I’ll let you do the next one. Then the other 3.9 billion of us.
@Lainy
Well, welcome to the spectrum I guess. As for having autism and ADHD at the same time, I know someone else who has that combination, so it’s not unheard of. How do you feel now that you know?
@Cyborgette
Maybe this is just me, but I’m also quite fond of flowers and honey. Can’t say I’m as into yellow and black stripes, though.
Such bullshit. We’re awkward too, it’s just that socially awkward women are invisible to men.
@WWTH:
That.
It’s all that.
@Naglfar
Both validated, slightly cheated and i don’t know how to go on form here. My parents made sure i had a lot of treatment and therapy for my ADHD when i was growing up to help me the best i could, but i don’t know where to go from here.
@Lainy
Since treatments relating to autism are on a symptomatic basis, I guess it depends on whether you are struggling with anything in particular. I’m not a medical professional so I am rather limited in my ability to help.
@Naglfar
No it’s alright, I’m not asking for help.my parents did the best they could to help me as a child. the doctors i was brought to did the best to help me. but the knowledge of adhd and austims as advanced a lot in the 18 years since i was tested. I guess what I’m feeling is the bitterness that I’ve been struggling for so long without an validation for years because of the limitations of the medical community.
@Lainy
Almost everyone is*, principally because there’s only actually one spectrum being discussed.
*Obviously not referring to neurotypicals here.
Are you psychic, David? You made a post including bees the same day the Intertoobz blow up because Mike Pence had a fly in his head during the VP debate.
Depends on your definition of ‘masculine women’… butch ladies make my bi little heart go pitter-pat
@Sharl
Same here. The only reason I said I wasn’t sure earlier was because I’m not a man so I wasn’t sure what men thought.
So true. Plus, have you noticed that SUE is a female name. Egad. Also, let that sink in.
It’s too early in the morning for me to understand this incomprehensible nonsense.
@Lainy, Congratulations!
Is there any up-to-date information about the state of Trump’s health? About all I’ve been able to ascertain is that he has not died.
On the other hand, courtesy of tonight’s debate we now have evidence, easy for even a lay person to understand, that gives a whole lot of credence to the claim that Mike Pence is a shithead. 🙂
@Surplus
Or a corpse. Flies dig corpses too. 🙂