Well. how about THAT for an October Surprise?
I would point out the ironies here but there really aren’t any. It’s basically the opposite of irony: Dude downplays the danger, doesn’t wear a mask and hangs out with other people not wearing masks, all because he thinks he’s a genetically superior human who’s immune to disease. Well, turns out he isn’t.
I have no idea how this is going to play out. This tweet pretty much sums it up:
Yep.
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“I never thought the virus would destroy my lungs!” coughs president who heads the Virus Destroying People’s Lungs Party.
I don’t want any more people to get sick or die from this virus. Not even the noxious occupant of the White House (who I started calling the Carrion King back in May.)
That being said, I find that I’m not above hoping everyone in his circle is preoccupied with worry about being maskless around him.
re: being obese – It’s actually protective to some extent for people over 55. The studies are discussed on a now-inactive blog called Junkfood Science that’s still archived over at Blogspot. It was written by a nurse who also is well-versed in statistics.
I don’t really care what happens to Trump, but I am pissed off that he brought more of the virus to my state this, pissed off he endangered the Bidens, campaign staff, and workers at the Cleveland Clinic, and pissed off that he went to the fundraiser after getting the news that Hicks was positive. No because I care about his big donors, mind you. But because it endangered workers who were serving them or cleaning up after them at the event.
Also, the SCOTUS confirmation ceremony may very well have been the source of the event and still, the GOP plans to break quarantine protocol to have ACB’s confirmation hearing.
Fucking ghouls. Then they expect us to only say kind words about the Trumps and wish them well.
FUCK THEM.
@Naglfar
I am not being sarcastic in any sense. If he does croak, I’m throwing a party. The virus and 210k deaths aside, this man has put me and my family at risk. Ever since he came down that escalator in 2015 and proclaimed that Mexicans were all rapists, the harassment and hate crimes against Latinos has skyrocketed. Whenever I’ve visited the states since then, I’ve been personally harassed for speaking Spanish in public.
He has then institutionalized genocide against Latinos through illegal detainment, inhumane treatment, torture and negligent homicide at his concentration camps. Now we have the hysterectomies, which are yet another textbook example of genocide. He has openly enabled, supported and abetted domestic terrorists and neonazis. He has obstructed justice and investigation into said groups numerous times.
When I call him a Nazi I say it in the strictest sense of the word, with all the academic and historical rigor that word implies.
I, for one, would not bat an eye if all 60 million of his supporters caught it as well. They are all just as complicit and guilty as he is and if they still support him at this point, it is not in spite of his racism, it is BECAUSE of it.
And I will take no reprimand or sanctimonious takes from liberals on the matter. The entire world decided that Nazism was an evil ideology, without any redeeming qualities, in the Nuremberg trials. The world fought an entire World War over it. We formed the UN to prevent it from happening ever again. There is no overreaction to be had here.
Nazism is downright evil and monstrous, and wishing Nazis dead is not only A morally correct choice, but THE only morally correct one. Any pretense to the contrary is nothing less than gaslighting. The likes of Rachel Maddow can go fuck themselves.
@Diego
Apologies, I read your first line as sarcastically mocking the liberals who would castigate such a sentiment. I agree 100% with you in celebrating. I was trying to show disagreement with Rachel Maddow and friends and say I was tired of them, sorry if that was unclear.
@Naglfar
Oh no worries, you point came across crystal clear. I just wanted to clarify where I stand on this issue. The crimes of the Trump administration are inhumane without number. We have fought an entire World War over them before. The likes of Shapiro, Crowder, Carlson, Ingraham, Southern, etc, belong in jail for spreading Nazi propaganda. The only reason justice hasn’t been done so far is because these deplorables have their hands on nearly all levers of power.
And if we are to prevent this from ever happening again we cannot allow the liberals and useful idiots among the progressives to white-wash what has taken place during these four years. We cannot overlook the crimes in which all of these people are complicit, nor how they celebrated them. Nazis don’t deserve mercy, they deserve justice. Put them in jail and rightly vilify them in all history books from now until the end of time.
Nice news to log in to. Kinda expected it at some stage, but still it’s a pleasant surprise. As Trump always demands and expects the best of everything may the virus respect that, and give him it’s best and fullest attention.
@alan:
Especially since their justification of Trump’s performance in the debate is how yelling over Biden was “dominating” him.
@Diego
The biggest lesson that has stuck out to me regarding investigations is that there needs to be investigation. The Obama administration let Bush off the hook and the Dems relaxed, which gave the GOP the confidence to put Trump in. Everyone involved in Trump’s campaign, administration, etc, no matter how trivial, needs to be investigated fully. The Republicans need to face the consequences or they’ll do it again, and worse.
There will be liberals and “centrists” who will offer platitudes about forgiveness and moving on, but we can’t forgive and move on when the danger remains among us.
@Threp
Only the best symptoms! Coughing alike you’ve never seen before! The doctors told me the fever was impossible!
Trump is going to Walter Reed medical center. So much for a symptom-free experience!
@PoM
Then I feel sorry for the medical staff. As Victorious pointed out earlier, he’s probably an awful patient.
This article provides a good timeline of Boris Johnson’s experience of coronavirus; and the political machinations and spin that ensued.
Might be interesting to compare and contrast with Trump’s progress.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/boris-johnson-and-coronavirus-inside-story-illness
Thoughts and prayers
@Alan Robertshaw
One thing I would note is context, the landscape of the UK in April is rather different to the US in October. The main thing I fear from the Boris story is an increase in support from people rallying around the sick leader.
@WWTH
I saw the hashtag #PrayForTrump on Twitter and was pleased to see the mocking posts and prayers for…other outcomes.
@ naglfar
I’m reminded of an interview I saw with a casino owner. He made the point that he always wished his patrons lots of luck. Then added “Of course, there are two kinds of luck.”
@Nequam,
I haven’t read that story for more than 40 years. When I was about 12 I had a cheap anthology of out of copyright horror stories, and that was one. Just reading your quote brought it all back.
Although I checked Wikipedia for a memory check, and I had some details wrong. I remembered the name as Conrad, and the abuser his aunt, rather than his cousin. But even after all these years it still brings a delicious shiver to remember
About fucking time. He’s been avoiding this for long enough.
In other good news, it looks like Biden’s tested negative for Covid.
@Tovius
IIRC it can take a while for it to show up on a test. Biden should probably be extra careful and get retested in a week.
Apparently Trump got an IV treatment of regeneron. Now, according to doctors I know, it’s reserved for the horribly sick in ICU. The consensus opinion among them is that Trump is being given preferential treatment and that this action shows what is really considered important in terms of care, and all sick persons should be allowed this medicine at the fatigued stage, because it’s highly unfair Trump should get it and other (their) patients not.
I tend to think maybe it’s a case of Boris Johnson’s “he’s just there out of an abundance of caution” right up until he was on a ventilator, and Trump is worse off than reported.
What’s your guys thoughts? Massive preferential treatment of the rich and powerful, or lying to the press about his condition (or both)?
@Big Titty Demon
I haven’t been following this closely but from what I’ve seen and others have posted I’d say it’s the latter: they’re trying to downplay his condition. Given that he apparently was showing symptoms Wednesday but the news didn’t break until this morning, it seems like they are trying to project the illusion that he’s doing better than he is.
From what I’ve read so far, the fatality rate is more pronounced in people who weren’t given immediate care and/or did not start medicating immediately. In his case, even if he has a bad case of the virus, he is far more likely to come out on top given that he will have the best healthcare available in the world. We are already on the sixth month of this pandemic, and doctors know more now than they did back in March.
I simply think he is predisposed to have a bad case of the Rona but, since he is the president, the doctors will take every single precaution to make sure that doesn’t happen and all risks are minimized.
@Naglfar: “The main thing I fear from the Boris story is an increase in support from people rallying around the sick leader.”
If it’s any consolation, that didn’t happen for Boris Johnson. Support for the Conservatives rose four days before Johnson announced he had COVID-19. Source, this YouGov tweet: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1311958523912294401
(Which is not to say it couldn’t happen for Trump.)
EDIT: Johnson personally did experience an increase in polling, which wore off once he was discharged. Source, the same Twitter thread. You were probably referring to this – my mistake.
@Ken Finlayson
Thank you for the clarification. I had been under the impression that support had increased after his diagnosis.
I also want to highlight the fact that Melania’s leaked audio confirms she doesn’t give a fuck about the children at the border and tried to gaslight by saying that was Obama doing that.
So all of those of you who were speculating on her being an abuse victim, who wore the “I really don’t care, do you?” jacket as an instruction from Trump; were absolutely wrong. She even admits in the audio (among laughs) that she did that shit on purpose to “drive liberals crazy” because “they deserve it. Fuck them”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmInffxdCGQ
She is just another White supremacist and needs to be thrown in jail.
@Diego
The whole Trump family needs to go to jail, they’re all jointly guilty of crimes against humanity and need to go away for a long time. Maybe Barron can go free, he’s only 14, but I’m not really sure what to do with him.